What The. Lug Key Help - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

TomShanK · 12-06-2011, 11:33 PM

I have gone through 3 different lug keys including buying a special "7-spline" lug key.

However, even it is just slightly too large and slides over the tuner lugs on the car I just purchased.

I have been to every Advance Auto, NAPA, O'Reilly, and Discount Tire in town, and nobody has the answer for me.

Does anyone else have these type of lug nuts? What do I do? I really don't wanna end up using a cutting torch on 20 different lugs. I'm looking for advice.

memphis180sx · 12-06-2011, 11:40 PM

pics of locks would be great

G5SR20240 · 12-06-2011, 11:44 PM

Pics or it never happened

TomShanK · 12-06-2011, 11:57 PM

slider2828 · 12-07-2011, 12:05 AM

THose look like gorilla locks?

Mitsubayati · 12-07-2011, 12:14 AM

worst case scenario. Get a socket that will fit over the lug nuts after being hammered on and use a breaker bar to take it off, then hammer out the lug nut and go on to the next one. I had to do that for 8 lug nuts once. Wasn't that bad.

TomShanK · 12-07-2011, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by slider2828

THose look like gorilla locks?

I'm not familiar with gorilla locks, what do I need to get them off? haha....my brakes are now down to metal so I just had to buy all new rear rotors as a consequence.

wrgibson · 12-07-2011, 08:30 AM

Hit up google. Search for 'gorilla nuts key' and you'll find them.....they run like $10.

edmorl · 12-07-2011, 08:42 AM

spline nut key. ordered mine from fast wheels.

silver350z05rb · 12-07-2011, 09:18 AM

they'res alot of keys that look like it will fit, thats what sucks,everyone one here will say it looks like this, or that,your either going to have to start buying alot of keys , or break them off, try a socket like they said or pay someone to take them off, might damage the rims

TomShanK · 12-07-2011, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by silver350z05rb

they'res alot of keys that look like it will fit, thats what sucks,everyone one here will say it looks like this, or that,your either going to have to start buying alot of keys , or break them off, try a socket like they said or pay someone to take them off, might damage the rims

Oh no! Not my brand new $250 Garbage Wheels! hahaha, that's my problem.

I figured my 6-spline key would work, nope.

so everyone told me I need a 7-spline lug key, bought one of those. Waited 5 days for it to be shipped here, nope, still too large.

So, I don't really know what to do. I was hoping someone on here had the same style lug nuts and could confirm what I needed.

slider2828 · 12-07-2011, 09:37 AM

if it sticks out you could probably use vice grips. Else just try to jam a socket in there....

memphis180sx · 12-07-2011, 10:05 AM

Just go buy a bunch of cheap sockets the size that u need hammer them on there then put a ratchet and try and break em loose.

**Phlip** · 12-07-2011, 10:09 AM

When I broke mine, I went to one of those godawful wheel shops that sell stereos, tint windows and have a Camaro with 22s on it out front, walked to the counter with the busted one (or one of the extra lug nuts) and asked "you got one of these?" to which he replied "sure, ten bucks" and I said "cool, gimme two" and I was done.
Try that

TomShanK · 12-07-2011, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Phlip

When I broke mine, I went to one of those godawful wheel shops that sell stereos, tint windows and have a Camaro with 22s on it out front, walked to the counter with the busted one (or one of the extra lug nuts) and asked "you got one of these?" to which he replied "sure, ten bucks" and I said "cool, gimme two" and I was done.
Try that

Sigh, yeah. I try not to endorse them...

Gonna head down to a local place and see if I can find what I need, thanks for the help gentlemen. If any of you have these lugs for sure and can identify it, I would appreciate it.

**Phlip** · 12-07-2011, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TomShanK

Sigh, yeah. I try not to endorse them...

Gonna head down to a local place and see if I can find what I need, thanks for the help gentlemen. If any of you have these lugs for sure and can identify it, I would appreciate it.

I know, I hate to go there too, but it was either them or the guys two miles up the road with the raised Chevy van with 26" wheels, neons and scissor doors on it.
I picked my poison.

nissandrift · 12-07-2011, 11:10 AM

I used to work at a tire shop, and we always used something similar to this.

silver350z05rb · 12-07-2011, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomShanK

Oh no! Not my brand new $250 Garbage Wheels! hahaha, that's my problem.

I figured my 6-spline key would work, nope.

so everyone told me I need a 7-spline lug key, bought one of those. Waited 5 days for it to be shipped here, nope, still too large.

So, I don't really know what to do. I was hoping someone on here had the same style lug nuts and could confirm what I needed.

HAHA, well your lug nut looks like the one that my GF had on her s14 when we bought it,we looked all over her car to hopefully find the key but had no luck, this had to be removed because in case we needed to change to a spare tire, we wouldnt be able to change it in an emergancy, so we went to Pepboys and they actually let me open up the packages and try it for free(since they were stapled together), they had about 3 different keys there and they all looked like the would fit, so i tried all 3 and it didnt work. one spline was always different, position, or thicker. luckily her rims only had one lug nut lock per wheel so we had 4 to remove, stopped by 2 shops, they had no luck with their keys, went to the 3d shop, 3d times a charm,Discount Tire had one and they removed all 4 for $5 bucks

Quote:

Originally Posted by nissandrift

I used to work at a tire shop, and we always used something similar to this.

that looks like it might work for him. not bad on the price either

zedsup83 · 12-07-2011, 07:22 PM

try hammering a socket over it, if i remember correctly i used a 15mm socket hammered that bitch in and used a breaker bar and of that sucker came.

rx7>rx8 · 12-16-2011, 02:04 PM

I have a solution that i did once. Bought a car and blew the tire on it with no security socket for the lugs. I used a cut off wheel to cut a slit through the middle of the lug, then grab a straight prybar or a big screwdriver with square sides. Hammer the screwdriver into the slit you made then put an adjustable wrench on the screwdriver. Luckily on mine i had tons of room before the studs started.

s13silvia123 · 12-16-2011, 02:22 PM

i had the same problem when some jackass stole my tools, i use this

Locking Wheel Nut Remover - DYNOMEC - YouTube

s14canyoncity · 12-16-2011, 07:43 PM

17mm socket will do the trick...

TomShanK · 12-18-2011, 03:17 PM

Unfortunately, 17mm will not do the trick.

Have ordered a tool from the Snap-On catalog similar to the tool mentioned above. Hammered on a 14mm with serious effort and that was the only thing serious enough to get after "most" of the lugs that were impacted onto the alloy wheels by previous owner, what a shame.

Successfully removed the fronts with a 14mm socket after breaking 3 of them, however the rears were more stubborn and we broke two lugs off inside the wheel and have now had to resort to this Snap-on tool which is a last resort.

The only serious issue I have had with this car, such a perfect car, but what a pain.

TomShanK · 01-04-2012, 09:44 AM

Unfortunately, since the lugs on the rear wheel broke, we were forced to use a plasma cutter and cut the wheel/studs off.

Truly unfortunate, but it had to be done.

In conclusion if anyone else is reading this and having the same trouble

Generally, hammering on a smaller socket will work, but in the case of steel lugnuts impacted on to alloy wheels, if you feel it twisting, resort to spending the $39.99 for the specialty tool. You will probably break the tool once or twice but it is still a smaller headache than cutting off a 2 month old alloy wheel.

12-06-2011, 11:33 PM	#1
TomShanK Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ft. Wayne, IN Posts: 939 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	What The. Lug Key Help I have gone through 3 different lug keys including buying a special "7-spline" lug key. However, even it is just slightly too large and slides over the tuner lugs on the car I just purchased. I have been to every Advance Auto, NAPA, O'Reilly, and Discount Tire in town, and nobody has the answer for me. Does anyone else have these type of lug nuts? What do I do? I really don't wanna end up using a cutting torch on 20 different lugs. I'm looking for advice.

12-07-2011, 12:05 AM	#5
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	THose look like gorilla locks? __________________ Turn and Burn!

12-07-2011, 12:14 AM	#6
Mitsubayati Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Dro Posts: 1,424 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	worst case scenario. Get a socket that will fit over the lug nuts after being hammered on and use a breaker bar to take it off, then hammer out the lug nut and go on to the next one. I had to do that for 8 lug nuts once. Wasn't that bad. __________________

12-07-2011, 09:37 AM	#12
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	if it sticks out you could probably use vice grips. Else just try to jam a socket in there.... __________________ Turn and Burn!

12-07-2011, 10:09 AM	#14
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,976 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	When I broke mine, I went to one of those godawful wheel shops that sell stereos, tint windows and have a Camaro with 22s on it out front, walked to the counter with the busted one (or one of the extra lug nuts) and asked "you got one of these?" to which he replied "sure, ten bucks" and I said "cool, gimme two" and I was done. Try that __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

12-06-2011, 11:40 PM	#2
memphis180sx BANNED Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: where you wish u were Posts: 355 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	pics of locks would be great

12-06-2011, 11:44 PM	#3
G5SR20240 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Diego Age: 39 Posts: 230 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Pics or it never happened

12-06-2011, 11:57 PM	#4
TomShanK Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ft. Wayne, IN Posts: 939 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews

12-07-2011, 08:30 AM	#8
wrgibson Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Durango Age: 36 Posts: 66 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hit up google. Search for 'gorilla nuts key' and you'll find them.....they run like $10.

12-07-2011, 08:42 AM	#9
edmorl Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Ontario Age: 31 Posts: 1,425 Trader Rating: (24) Feedback Score: 24 reviews	spline nut key. ordered mine from fast wheels.

12-07-2011, 09:18 AM	#10
silver350z05rb Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Age: 37 Posts: 432 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	they'res alot of keys that look like it will fit, thats what sucks,everyone one here will say it looks like this, or that,your either going to have to start buying alot of keys , or break them off, try a socket like they said or pay someone to take them off, might damage the rims

12-07-2011, 10:05 AM	#13
memphis180sx BANNED Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: where you wish u were Posts: 355 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Just go buy a bunch of cheap sockets the size that u need hammer them on there then put a ratchet and try and break em loose.

12-07-2011, 11:10 AM	#17
nissandrift Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 40 Posts: 103 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I used to work at a tire shop, and we always used something similar to this.

12-07-2011, 07:22 PM	#19
zedsup83 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Van Nuys CA Posts: 33 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	try hammering a socket over it, if i remember correctly i used a 15mm socket hammered that bitch in and used a breaker bar and of that sucker came.

12-16-2011, 02:04 PM	#20
rx7>rx8 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: nebraska Age: 38 Posts: 42 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a solution that i did once. Bought a car and blew the tire on it with no security socket for the lugs. I used a cut off wheel to cut a slit through the middle of the lug, then grab a straight prybar or a big screwdriver with square sides. Hammer the screwdriver into the slit you made then put an adjustable wrench on the screwdriver. Luckily on mine i had tons of room before the studs started.

12-16-2011, 02:22 PM	#21
s13silvia123 Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: where waldo is Age: 42 Posts: 3,266 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	i had the same problem when some jackass stole my tools, i use this Locking Wheel Nut Remover - DYNOMEC - YouTube __________________ 18g and 20g turbo users click on me http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/261219-18g-20g-turbo-users.html

12-16-2011, 07:43 PM	#22
s14canyoncity Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 1,181 Trader Rating: (50) Feedback Score: 50 reviews	17mm socket will do the trick... __________________ Nissan S14 Navan Zenki

12-18-2011, 03:17 PM	#23
TomShanK Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ft. Wayne, IN Posts: 939 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Unfortunately, 17mm will not do the trick. Have ordered a tool from the Snap-On catalog similar to the tool mentioned above. Hammered on a 14mm with serious effort and that was the only thing serious enough to get after "most" of the lugs that were impacted onto the alloy wheels by previous owner, what a shame. Successfully removed the fronts with a 14mm socket after breaking 3 of them, however the rears were more stubborn and we broke two lugs off inside the wheel and have now had to resort to this Snap-on tool which is a last resort. The only serious issue I have had with this car, such a perfect car, but what a pain.

01-04-2012, 09:44 AM	#24
TomShanK Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ft. Wayne, IN Posts: 939 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Unfortunately, since the lugs on the rear wheel broke, we were forced to use a plasma cutter and cut the wheel/studs off. Truly unfortunate, but it had to be done. In conclusion if anyone else is reading this and having the same trouble Generally, hammering on a smaller socket will work, but in the case of steel lugnuts impacted on to alloy wheels, if you feel it twisting, resort to spending the $39.99 for the specialty tool. You will probably break the tool once or twice but it is still a smaller headache than cutting off a 2 month old alloy wheel.