2013-2014 NBA Season Thread

[Riq]

I was going to wait until July 1st to start this but I figured the only people that still care about the Heat winning it all is Dnnr and I so lets get the off-season rolling. The old thread will remain open until Phlips B-Day/

Greg Oden's agent says there is mutual interest with Miami Heat - CBSSports.com

It's looking like Greg Oden is fully healthy and wants to come to the Heat. From what his agent said, he's good to go and the Heat are ready to sign him when FA begins. If he is able to stay healthy and can give Miami atleast 80% of what his potential was back in 09', I'm alot more confident in a 3peat. The only thing that stops him from going to Miami is another team overpaying him just to keep him away. 7' 285lbs great defender and has an okay back to the basket game. Bosh would move back to the PF spot. I get goose bumps thinking of the possibilities

Most the Heat can give him is the $3M Tax-level which is pretty damn good for a guy that hasn't played in almost 4 years. But I think the Heat will try to get him for the minimum.

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by Riq

It's looking like Greg Oden is fully healthy and wants to come to the Heat. From what his agent said, he's good to go and the Heat are ready to sign him when FA begins. If he is able to stay healthy and give Miami atleast 80% of what his potential was back in 09', I'm alot more confident in a 3peat. The only thing that stops him from going to Miami is another team overpaying him just to keep him away. 7' 285lbs great defender and has an okay back to the basket game. Bosh would move back to the PF spot. I get goose bumps thinking of the possibilities

Most the Heat can give him is the $3M Tax-level which is pretty damn good for a guy that hasn't played in almost 4 years. But I think the Heat will try to get him for the minimum.

If you trust anyone saying that Greg Oden is healthy, you are higher than Rick James.
Further, you can NOT call the little time he has played as any sampling of what to expect out of him. Sure, he COULD be as great as they get, but we won't know that until it actually happens.

[acslater9]

I want to see what my Bulls are going to do this off season, They did really good without Derrick Rose so I'm excited.

Monta Ellis to the Bulls? lol jk

[FRpilot]

Can we please fix the thread title? i have ocd and it bothers me.

[theronin]

Originally Posted by FRpilot

Can we please fiix the thread title? i have ocd and it bothers me.

Just noticed this, and I concur.

[word sux]

good job riq starting off a new season with fail

[KiLLeR2001]

Riq so drunk from the after party he derp'd on the title.

[Phlip]

I'm not fixing it any time soon...
The title shows how drunk Miami fans have been and needs to remain until Brolo returns from his time in the wilderness trying to commit suicide by being maimed by a mountain lion.

[Riq]

Originally Posted by Phlip

I'm not fixing it any time soon...
The title shows how drunk Miami fans have been and needs to remain until Brolo returns from his time in the wilderness trying to commit suicide by being maimed by a mountain lion.

LMAO! I agree leave it for now, it was 4:30am and I had just come in from a rare night out with the wife. Sorry for the typo guys.


As far as Oden goes, if he can be 80% of what he was back in 09', he could be the best Center on the Heat roster, hell even at 70%. The Heat doctors were able to help "JO" with his knee issues. I think they can get him healthy enough to play 15-25min per game. All I want him to do is stop drivers. Worst case his wears a suit to his first ring :cough: :cough: Cocky Heat Fan :cough: :cough:


Something tells me that Brolo won't be visiting this thread much. The guy has been MIA since he realized that Iso-Melo was completely fail or he was too embarrassed about his "Melo Bully" Youtube vid being seen as a joke lol!

[Gnnr]

Greg Oden being healthy is a pipe dream.

[revat619]

My only hope for this next season right now is a healthy Kobe Bryant. D'antoni is still gonna be at the the helm and Dwight Diva Howard doesn't know wtf he wants to do. If Kobe is healthy, i'll consider this train wreck that is the Lakers since Jim Buss took over, a success.

EDIT: Oh and getting rid of Jodie Meeks. PLEASE. Good god that guy's college game DID NOT transfer over well. Dude has been a huge let down. The Lakers need a lot of help in a lot of areas and have next to zero financial flexibility and draft picks. They've always been able to bounce back through the years, but this new cba is definitely gonna make it more challenging. Can't wait till free agency.

[Riq]

Originally Posted by revat619

My only hope for this next season right now is a healthy Kobe Bryant. D'antoni is still gonna be at the the helm and Dwight Diva Howard doesn't know wtf he wants to do. If Kobe is healthy, i'll consider this train wreck that is the Lakers since Jim Buss took over, a success.

EDIT: Oh and getting rid of Jodie Meeks. PLEASE. Good god that guy's college game DID NOT transfer over well. Dude has been a huge let down. The Lakers need a lot of help in a lot of areas and have next to zero financial flexibility and draft picks. They've always been able to bounce back through the years, but this new cba is definitely gonna make it more challenging. Can't wait till free agency.

The Lakers should be more than fine with the CBA Tax issue. Their T.V deal is a $120M per year alone last time I checked. If Buss is about winning he shouldn't care about being taxed up the ass. Try being Micky in Miami with his $60M per deal. In all fairness to Dantoni, he only got 37 games or so with all his stars and Dwight was playing hurt with his bad back. That being said, I have zero trust in Dantoni taking the Lakers to the finals. I just don't understand Jim's thinking with that hire. Atleast Mike Brown knew how to coach Defense which he should know is what wins rings and lets face it Dantoni will never coach Defense.

Personally I think Dwight stays in L.A. But if he's serious about winning he goes to the Rockets.

[revat619]

Originally Posted by Riq

The Lakers should be more than fine with the CBA Tax issue. Their T.V deal is a $120M per year alone last time I checked. If Buss is about winning he shouldn't care about being taxed up the ass. Try being Micky in Miami with his $60M per deal. In all fairness to Dantoni, he only got 37 games or so with all his stars and Dwight was playing hurt with his bad back. That being said, I have zero trust in Dantoni taking the Lakers to the finals. I just don't understand Jim's thinking with that hire. Atleast Mike Brown knew how to coach Defense which he should know is what wins rings and lets face it Dantoni will never coach Defense.

Personally I think Dwight stays in L.A. But if he's serious about winning he goes to the Rockets.

I totally agree with you especially with Kobe and Pau's (assuming he isn't traded) contracts soon to be coming off the books BUT Jim Buss is an idiot and i doubt he'll take that into consideration. If it were me, yeah i wouldn't give 2 shits about the tax and i'd spend to actually have something that resembled a quality bench..

If Jim were really about winning he would never have hired D'antoni to begin with. That hire was a dig at Phil and we all know it. True, D'antoni did have to deal with no training camp and an absurd amount of injuries, but like you said he will indeed NEVER coach defense so my confidence in the team going forward is reluctantly optimistic.

I'm really 50/50 on Dwight staying. Even as a Laker fan, i know the best team for him would be the Rockets. Nobody in their right mind WANTS to play for D'antoni. But Dwight has all his metal issues with making everyone happy and what not so who knows. I just want him to make a decision and not be wishy washy about it cuz that shit is annoying.

[Phlip]

I think Andrew Bynum sandbagged last season so Philly will not offer him a contract, then he can re-sign with the Lakers and then pop back to effectiveness on some "gotcha bitch!" shit. The Lakers draft a PG who mentors under Steve Nash for a year or two, Eric Gordon escapes New Orleans and fills the spot formerly occupied by Kobe Bryant.
I'm bullshitting... we don't want Bynum and all that other stuff is me being bored.

[FRpilot]

Originally Posted by Phlip

all that other stuff is me being bored.

Here's some rumors if you're bored. Not much, but it's something:

-Mavs trying to find someone to take Marion's $9M salary and including their 13th pick as an incentive. Rumor is Mavs send 13th pick + Shawn Marion's $9M contract to Pelicans for another pick (maybe a late first or 2nd rounder). Mavs trying to free up money to make a run and D12 and/or CP3.

-Cavs offer two 2nd round picks for PP. I don't why they would want an old ass Pierce for their young ass team.

[theronin]

Originally Posted by Phlip

I think Andrew Bynum sandbagged last season so Philly will not offer him a contract, then he can re-sign with the Lakers and then pop back to effectiveness on some "gotcha bitch!" shit. The Lakers draft a PG who mentors under Steve Nash for a year or two, Eric Gordon escapes New Orleans and fills the spot formerly occupied by Kobe Bryant.
I'm bullshitting... we don't want Bynum and all that other stuff is me being bored.

Lol I was gonna say....

[SimpleSexy180]

andrew bynum looks at the NBA the same way i would be if i was in the no bad asses rig. cant eat, can not say anything about his homies. ALMOST as if zilvia had a contract.

[FRpilot]

Screw Andrew Bynum. That asshat is like a slightly more mature DeMarcus Cousins. Both are big men with huge games but are mentally challenged when it comes to authority.

I have a feeling that whoever signs him will have the next Amare Stoudemire.

[SimpleSexy180]

Originally Posted by FRpilot

Screw Andrew Bynum. That asshat is like a slightly more mature DeMarcus Cousins. Both are big men with huge games but are mentally challenged when it comes to authority.

I have a feeling that whoever signs him will have the next Amare Stoudemire.

SO YOU MEAN, that bynum will end up in a dessert?

[Gnnr]

Los Angeles Clippers agree in principle to Doc Rivers deal -- sources - ESPN

And here we go...

[acslater9]

Where do you guys think Monta Ellis will possibly go?

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by acslater9

Where do you guys think Monta Ellis will possibly go?

Nowhere, since no one who contends can afford him

[zooopreme]

The Clips just got a lot better in my book. Better than a Laker squad with Dwight, Pau, a healthy Nash, and Kobe.

River's adds grit that the Clips sort of had but under the wings of CP3. Despite being raised in LA, the Clips were never a franchise worth liking and I don't expect to root or associate my hometown as a Clippertown.

Originally Posted by Riq

The Lakers should be more than fine with the CBA Tax issue. Their T.V deal is a $120M per year alone last time I checked. If Buss is about winning he shouldn't care about being taxed up the ass. Try being Micky in Miami with his $60M per deal.

You talk about money like you own a franchise.

For the last two years, the Lakers have been getting rid of some of their higher paid players in order to alleviate themselves from the tax and because they were simply past their due date.

The reason they're fighting for Dwight is because they want a stepping stone or a starting block to establish an identity. The way I see it Dwight is NOT a great center to build around and I think the Lakers feel the same way but are willing to give him that incentive for trying. With that said, he will leave and now the Lakers are left with dinosaurs.

"They'll be more than fine" is what they've been dealing with. Where they want to be is with younger talent with smaller contracts.

Originally Posted by Riq

In all fairness to Dantoni, he only got 37 games or so with all his stars and Dwight was playing hurt with his bad back. That being said, I have zero trust in Dantoni taking the Lakers to the finals. I just don't understand Jim's thinking with that hire. Atleast Mike Brown knew how to coach Defense which he should know is what wins rings and lets face it Dantoni will never coach Defense.

Personally I think Dwight stays in L.A. But if he's serious about winning he goes to the Rockets.

In all fairness, D'Antoni has tweaked his offense but in doing so, he loss the ability to coach anything else.

In my point of view, if the coach is great on the offensive end, it's easy to read the other teams offense and counter it. D'Antoni has shown his lack of versatility.

Mike Brown wasn't given a chance because he implemented an offense that was difficult to teach in one summer. He didn't establish the basics of the Princeton offense and dove into it like the players should have known.

Originally Posted by revat619

If Jim were really about winning he would never have hired D'antoni to begin with. That hire was a dig at Phil and we all know it. True, D'antoni did have to deal with no training camp and an absurd amount of injuries, but like you said he will indeed NEVER coach defense so my confidence in the team going forward is reluctantly optimistic.

Everybody complains about D'Antoni and his lack of defense but you forget that Phil wasn't defensive coordinated either.

I feel like Phil was a better choice but not the right choice. I believe the roster choice was a problem. I've been on record for being upset about picking up Nash. In terms of Nash, the Laker org wanted to get the best out of him but his role shrunk to a more D.Fish role and guess who flourished with a not-PG-centered triangle offense? Phil.

The Laker defense wouldn't have been better under Phil and the injuries would have still been there. The Kobe achilles probably would have happened as well.

[FRpilot]

Originally Posted by acslater9

Where do you guys think Monta Ellis will possibly go?

Probably a desperate team that has a need for a "superstar" and will overpay for him.

My bet is on Charlotte.

With Washington or Detroit being a close second with visions of a John Wall/Monta Ellis or Brandon Knight/Monta Ellis backcourt tandem. haha

Originally Posted by SimpleSexy180

SO YOU MEAN, that bynum will end up in a dessert?

I don't get what you are saying? Inside joke? Are you talking about an ice cream sundae or the Phoenix Suns?

Originally Posted by zooopreme

The Clips just got a lot better in my book. Better than a Laker squad with Dwight, Pau, a healthy Nash, and Kobe.

It would be funny if Chris Paul still bolts and screws the Clippers, Donald Sterling, and Doc Rivers. lol

Originally Posted by zooopreme

The reason they're fighting for Dwight is because they want a stepping stone or a starting block to establish an identity. The way I see it Dwight is NOT a great center to build around and I think the Lakers feel the same way but are willing to give him that incentive for trying. With that said, he will leave and now the Lakers are left with dinosaurs.

I don't see Dwight as a franchise player either, no matter how much he thinks he's better than Shaq. He would be a great sidekick (or even a third tier guy on a team, since even 2nd tier superstar/sidekicks can create their own offense and score), but I don't know how you would break that to him without hurting his ego or him getting angry.

I think maxing Dwight out is a mistake. The Lakers have always gone after the top talent in the game. They signed Shaq in the mid 90s and they drafted Kobe whom carried them for the last 20 years. The only obvious road I see the Lakers taking is making a run at Lebron or Durant, but who knows. Daddy's dead, it's the end of an era, and Junior is running the show now.

[zooopreme]

Originally Posted by FRpilot

It would be funny if Chris Paul still bolts and screws the Clippers, Donald Sterling, and Doc Rivers. lol

Sterling is a known racist and I'm surprised Doc decided to make a deal with that guy.

Way to make your way up the ladder, Doc.

Originally Posted by FRpilot

I don't see Dwight as a franchise player either, no matter how much he thinks he's better than Shaq. He would be a great sidekick (or even a third tier guy on a team, since even 2nd tier superstar/sidekicks can create their own offense and score), but I don't know how you would break that to him without hurting his ego or him getting angry.

I think maxing Dwight out is a mistake. The Lakers have always gone after the top talent in the game. They signed Shaq in the mid 90s and they drafted Kobe whom carried them for the last 20 years. The only obvious road I see the Lakers taking is making a run at Lebron or Durant, but who knows. Daddy's dead, it's the end of an era, and Junior is running the show now.

At first, I thought Dwight was a franchise player but the more I got to thinking what his contributions were, he became exactly what you just said. He's more than good but I can't see his skillset being that of a franchise player especially with the roster the Lakers are offering him now.

At this point, I think the Lakers should start lining up their options because it's not looking good for them. Harden and Parsons are two young players that have game I could only imagine the sales pitch they've been swinging in front of Dwight's face. And they're probably not the only two trying to recruit him.

I truly wish that he makes the right choice because with or without him, I think the Lakers are so fucked for this season, haha.

As July 1 comes up, here's a list of FA's:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/85...ents-2013-2014

[FRpilot]

Originally Posted by zooopreme

Sterling is a known racist and I'm surprised Doc decided to make a deal with that guy.

Way to make your way up the ladder, Doc.

There’s rumors that Doc got fed up with dealing with Rondo. I’m reading that it got as bad as Rondo saying “fuck” in some ways towards Rivers at one point during the season that it almost led to a fist fight.

Sterling probably spends his days in the office staring bewildered at pictures of Blake Griffin, trying to figure out whether he liked him or not.

But yea, Not only is Donald Sterling a racist, he justifies being cheap as if people would not get paid any other way and considers himself as their savior and they should be grateful that he is paying them at all, demeans and thinks the purpose of women are to serve him as whores, and pretty much considers everyone beneath him.

He’s pretty much a tyrant. I have no idea how anyone could be happy to work for him or why the NBA disregards him for ruining their image has given him a pass for so long, yet want certain owners like the Maloofs out ASAP.

Originally Posted by zooopreme

Harden and Parsons are two young players that have game I could only imagine the sales pitch they've been swinging in front of Dwight's face. And they're probably not the only two trying to recruit him.

I think Houston is a great fit for him. Parsons can play SF/PF (depending of Asik plays alongside Dwight or comes off the bench) and shoot 3s from outside, Dwight can play inside, and Harden and Lin can handle the ball. Eventually, they may want to upgrade PG and move Harden to be an ultra versatile swingman.

I don’t mind seeing Dwight on the Clippers with Chris Paul either. Dwight needs any good PG help he can get if they offer Griffin in the sign and trade. Plus, I don’t think you can have 2 athletic freak of natures with no basketball IQ or fundamentals on the same front court. We all saw how well the Blake Griffin/DeAndre Jordan combo did.

[Gnnr]

[SimpleSexy180]

Never had an injury during a play in sports,(ok, football TWO times)(tackling hurts me to do). kobe bryant has crunch time with his hands. shane batier runnin away, pharcyde passin me by wth.

[acslater9]

Wow Paul Millsap AND Al Jefferson's going to be FA's, Well knowing that the Jazz wont let those 2 leave there probably going to stay. You never know though.

[Riq]

Originally Posted by Gnnr