The everything cd009 swap thread.

[pacotaco345]

Originally Posted by BiG MiKE86

Yup that’s what I haz



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Oooo, carry on sir. My friend has the kit in his sc300, seems to like it a lot


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[TheRealSy90]

Uhm doesn’t it also come with the flywheel, clutch, and shifter? That’s not a bad price for everything.


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[Sr20-Vert]

What transmission mount do you use for the maxworx kit ?

[jumpman2334]

so, would it be safe to assume that the s9 kit will still have the 'hanging below the frame rail' problem in an S chassis? im not sure about ya'll but a trans hanging that low would be a deal breaker for me.


its weird that there are so many good (Japanese) power plant options, but each trans option available has weird quirks associated them.

Originally Posted by di-devol

I guess this is just how it fits. First time I shred this trans, Im getting a new r154 from driftmotion haha

im sure you are aware, but marlin crawler offers a rebuild service that has got to be much cheaper than getting a brand new r154.

[di-devol]

Originally Posted by jumpman2334

im sure you are aware, but marlin crawler offers a rebuild service that has got to be much cheaper than getting a brand new r154.

I'm sure it's not bad, but getting a used r154 for $1k+ without the damn bellhousing, then paying to rebuild it is about the same as a new one.

[RalliartRsX]

Sorry to input. How do guys like the 4.08 FD with the CD009 n a SR??
This is to add to my post above

Originally Posted by di-devol

I'm sure it's not bad, but getting a used r154 for $1k+ without the damn bellhousing, then paying to rebuild it is about the same as a new one.

I still cant believe rebuilt R134 are fetching close to 3K when a CD009 could be had for less than 800..........Blows my mind

[di-devol]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Sorry to input. How do guys like the 4.08 FD with the CD009 n a SR??
This is to add to my post above




I still cant believe rebuilt R134 are fetching close to 3K when a CD009 could be had for less than 800..........Blows my mind

I'm 1j with the 4 fd. It's short af, I just treat 2nd as 1st.

[RalliartRsX]

So how many folks are still on the 4.08 FD?? How crappy is it on the highway spinning 3500RPM @ 80 MPH??

I am struggling to find s 3.69 and do not want to go as low as a 3.54 from the Q45.

Highway speed calculation @ 3500 RPM in 6th with a 25" tire (255-40-17) is right at 80mph. Thats a bit much

With a J30/3.91 its 3350 @ 80 MPH (80 is the target as thats pretty much highway cruise speeds around here)

[jumpman2334]

Originally Posted by di-devol

I'm sure it's not bad, but getting a used r154 for $1k+ without the damn bellhousing, then paying to rebuild it is about the same as a new one.

damn, you right. I thought they were more expensive.

[TheRealSy90]

3500 at 80 isn't bad at all. My bone stock 04 Ralliart daily driver does 3500 at 80mph. These engines are perfectly fine sitting at 3500 for extended periods.

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

3500 at 80 isn't bad at all. My bone stock 04 Ralliart daily driver does 3500 at 80mph. These engines are perfectly fine sitting at 3500 for extended periods.

Its not the engine is the issue. I just simply do not want to cruising with my turbo setup at such relatively high RPMS as that means instant boost any time I even breath on the throttle. Also, it just becomes annoying as now everything in the car is buzzing. That is fatiguing for longer than 30 mins commutes. No thanks

[R3b]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Its not the engine is the issue. I just simply do not want to cruising with my turbo setup at such relatively high RPMS as that means instant boost any time I even breath on the throttle. Also, it just becomes annoying as now everything in the car is buzzing. That is fatiguing for longer than 30 mins commutes. No thanks

Though im not CD swap yet, I feel this. I daily drive my hatch with built ka-t but driving more and more lately I cant stand the gearing and I have j30. Im about to swap to 180sx vsld since my diff has so much play im dreading the install since its an even higher final drive. Gonna be a temp thing till I do the q45 swap because cruising on the highway above 3k in regular traffic is nuts...
Plus I want to do a road trip from south fl to tail of dragons maybe this year.

[hanzbrady]

Originally Posted by R3b

Though im not CD swap yet, I feel this. I daily drive my hatch with built ka-t but driving more and more lately I cant stand the gearing and I have j30. Im about to swap to 180sx vsld since my diff has so much play im dreading the install since its an even higher final drive. Gonna be a temp thing till I do the q45 swap because cruising on the highway above 3k in regular traffic is nuts...
Plus I want to do a road trip from south fl to tail of dragons maybe this year.

So instead of going through 2 or 3 diffs why not just pony up and get a Z diff and axles with the lower ratio that you're after off the bat?

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by hanzbrady

So instead of going through 2 or 3 diffs why not just pony up and get a Z diff and axles with the lower ratio that you're after off the bat?

But why would you do this?? The Q45 is available in 3.69 and 3.54 ratios to cover those basis without requiring diff bushings or having to modify the subframe for it to fit.

Which leaves me with these few questions

1) Does a standard R200 diff (say ATS carbon or even a HLSD) swap into the Q45 diff housing?? Its obvious the pinion shaft bearings are actually bigger/longer/etc in the Q45 vs the standard R200 (Z32, 240sx, J30) diff.

2) Can a standard R200 diff (again, say S15 HLSD or ATS carbon) swap into a 350Z R200?? I suspect the answer is yes as a direct swap??

[R3b]

Originally Posted by hanzbrady

So instead of going through 2 or 3 diffs why not just pony up and get a Z diff and axles with the lower ratio that you're after off the bat?

My diff since I bought the car has always made me question it, plus this new 180 diff is fresh and got it basically for free. I thought about going z33 swap but it will such a hassle switching to s14 subframe unless there is an s13 rear subframe option that im unaware of.... Only going to go q45 once I have all the little parts, not a big deal finding diff but more the mismatching axle setup. Best case would be get a whole s15 diff and use conversion bushings. Get a sick lsd and have 3.7 final drive.

[RalliartRsX]

LOL @ Beams. The answer is always Miater, no

Got any idea on my Q45 and 350Z based questions by any chance??

[beems240sx]

I do not know, but honestly I would rather use the diff that Nissan intended the transmission be paired with.

[pacotaco345]

No, you can't put 350z R230 gears into an R200. Yes, you can swap any R200 gears into any other R200, Q45 or whatever.

sidenote, if you have an s14 subframe in your car you can swap a 350z R230 with only conversion bushings. An auto trans 350z R230 will get your 1st-5th the same as they were with stock transmission & diff, 6th gear will be another overdrive. That's what I plan on doing whenever I put the CD in my car.

[RalliartRsX]

Originally Posted by pacotaco345

No, you can't put 350z R230 gears into an R200. Yes, you can swap any R200 gears into any other R200, Q45 or whatever.

sidenote, if you have an s14 subframe in your car you can swap a 350z R230 with only conversion bushings. An auto trans 350z R230 will get your 1st-5th the same as they were with stock transmission & diff, 6th gear will be another overdrive. That's what I plan on doing whenever I put the CD in my car.

You are not understanding my questions (or which diffs carry which ring gear size). All the diffs in question are R200. Also please fix your terminology. What "gears" are you referring to??

Also, you have your diffs entirely incorrect. ALL 350Z diffs are R200. ALL Z32 300ZX TURBO diffs are R230. Also, you CANNOT swap any R200 "gears" into a 350Z. The actual ring gear, and pinion are of a different design

Not to be a dick, but please do not comment if you are going to just muddy the waters and through everything off.

I am asking

1) Can you swap a R200 pumpkin (say ATS 1.5 way or HLSD) into a 350Z diff (so basically swapping the ring gear onto the ABS pumpkins above)??

2) Can you swap a R200 pumpkin into a Q45 (keep in mind, the Q45 pinion bushing is larger in diameter than the standard 240SX/J30 diff)

[pacotaco345]

I'll preface this by saying a pumpkin is the entire differential assembly, case, guts, axle stubs and all.

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

I am asking

1) Can you swap a R200 pumpkin (say ATS 1.5 way or HLSD) into a 350Z diff (so basically swapping the ring gear onto the ABS pumpkins above)??

2) Can you swap a R200 pumpkin into a Q45 (keep in mind, the Q45 pinion bushing is larger in diameter than the standard 240SX/J30 diff)

1) I think you're asking "can I swap R200 diff into another R200 ring gear and put it back into the pumpkin that said ring gear came out of"? Then yes, as long as its a 10 bolt R200 diff, you can swap those.

2) I think you're asking "can I swap some other R200 guts (diff, ring & pinion included) into a Q45 pumpkin"? Then yes, again, as long as the pinion gear is the same length as what you're swapping it out with.

3) If you have all these diff assemblies sitting around, and 2 more Q45 ones at the junkyard, then why not just buy the one at the junk yard and experiment?

[RalliartRsX]

OK. But that doesn't answer my remaining questions hanz . Also, the JY close to me has 2 Q45 diffs, so yeah, I can grab a Q45 carrier/full diff

I have here with me
Z32 full diff
S13 full diff (has S15 LSD inside)
ATS 1.5 carbon pumpkin with J30 stub axles with ABS tone rings


What I want is
Q45 (be it 3.69 or 3.54 FD)
Either the HLSD or the ATS carbon diff to be swapped in
Z32 rear cover

So I am asking if I can just swap in either R200 HLSD or a ATS carbon into a Q45 (swap ring gears, side bearings, etc) and go without any other component needing change (of course, running the proper stub axles for the diff, which in this case, for the ATS would be J30 or for the S15 would be S15)

[RalliartRsX]

1) Thanks. That is the specific question I am asking. Have you confirmed this?? My initial impression was yes, if swapping nothing else but a R200 based pumpkin into a R200 diff (in this case a Q45), it should be a direct swap

2) No. I am asking if you can swap a R200 pumpkin (ATS LSS or S15 HLSD pumpkin, R200 diff based off the S13, J30, Z32 NA diffs) into a 350Z, which is a R200 diff itself (although has a different pinion and ring gear design). Base R200 (S chassis, R chassis, Z chassis, J chaasis, etc) internals are NOT swappable to a 350Z carrier. The internal/external dimensions prevent this

3) Why would I go plunk the money and time to pull all those diffs for it to not work?? Sometimes you need to work smarter not harder . Time spent pulling diffs in junkyard is not spent making $$$ doing other things

[RalliartRsX]

LOL! Thanks LoSt

I use pumpkin as it makes it easier as it seems folks tend to get confused with the term differential (which is the correct term) and differential carrier (which folks equate to being one in the same........which it is not. See above about "gear" )

And yep, as I mentioned, found out about the R200V components (Q45, S chassis, J chassis, etc) not fitting as I mentioned. The R200H diff and it's components are all just sized up from the R200V every so slightly as to not have facilitate cross pollination between the R200V (S, J, etc) and the R200H (350Z, G35, Q45, etc)

It just took folks almost an entire page to not answer what you took one post to answer hahahahaha! I love this bar

[LoSt180]

Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

LOL! Thanks LoSt

I use pumpkin as it makes it easier as it seems folks tend to get confused with the term differential (which is the correct term) and differential carrier (which folks equate to being one in the same........which it is not. See above about "gear" )

And yep, as I mentioned, found out about the R200V components (Q45, S chassis, J chassis, etc) not fitting as I mentioned. The R200H diff and it's components are all just sized up from the R200V every so slightly as to not have facilitate cross pollination between the R200V (S, J, etc) and the R200H (350Z, G35, Q45, etc)

It just took folks almost an entire page to not answer what you took one post to answer hahahahaha! I love this bar

The 350Z is a R200V (viscous) only the S15 is a R200H (helical). "R200" is open. The H and V aren't generation designators, lol.

[RalliartRsX]

My apologies. That should read R200 "reinforced". Thanks for catching that

Same underlying idea applies however

[Yellow4g63]

I'm interested in the 350z rear differential swap. Can't seem to find much on it. Found a guy on YouTube that uses the Collins kit to mount it in his S14. Not too much details in that video tho.

[RalliartRsX]

Maverick makes the front (offset) bushings. The rear housing should bolt up to the S14/2 bolt subframe
You use the 350Z stubs and axles
If the axles do not fit, you can also get the stubs modified by someone on the west coast (let me see if I can pull up the info) to shorten them

It seems, depending on chassis, the axles may or may not be too long. YMMV

[doyle4281]

Has anyone had any experience with the Serial Nine shifter on the CD009?

[di-devol]

I just ordered one on Friday, I'll post when I get it. Currently using Collins V1 shifter.

[Nemui]

Originally Posted by doyle4281

Has anyone had any experience with the Serial Nine shifter on the CD009?

I'm using one currently. You have to cut into the trans tunnel for it to fit but it's very close to stock location. What else would you like to know?