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Old 03-19-2018, 12:54 AM   #1
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I think i need a more aggressive brake pad...i left a lot on the table here, but my word is that a fun track!
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I think i need a more aggressive brake pad...i left a lot on the table here, but my word is that a fun track!
What brakes are you running?
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What brakes are you running?
Hawk HPS. I'm contemplating running their autocross/track pad (HB178N.564). Still somewhat streetable and has a better bite with less brake fade than the HPS pads. They're noisier, and make more dust, but i guess that's the compromise for better performance.
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Hawk HPS. I'm contemplating running their autocross/track pad (HB178N.564). Still somewhat streetable and has a better bite with less brake fade than the HPS pads. They're noisier, and make more dust, but i guess that's the compromise for better performance.
Oh Jesus man, you're not doing yourself any favors! HPS can fade on the street from a couple of highway stops. HP+ are better, but not by much. Do yourself a favor and get dedicated track pads if you're serious and swap them in.
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Oh Jesus man, you're not doing yourself any favors! HPS can fade on the street from a couple of highway stops. HP+ are better, but not by much. Do yourself a favor and get dedicated track pads if you're serious and swap them in.
I used to run the HP+ pads, predominately for the track, but there was to and from the track driving as well. They were effective with Powerslot rotors and a 135 WHP KA24DE full out on Big Willow and Streets.
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I used to run the HP+ pads, predominately for the track, but there was to and from the track driving as well. They were effective with Powerslot rotors and a 135 WHP KA24DE full out on Big Willow and Streets.
They are certainly better than HPS, but I remain skeptical based on my own experience in 100's of track hours in my old endurance race car with a basic KA24DE. I used to get DTC-60/30 front/rear split on z32 brakes to suffer from poor pad transfer due to overheating and the car was only 2400lbs race weight.

They wouldn't fade, just pad depositing and cause bad pulsation/judder. Once I ducted the front they were ok, but the rear dtc-30 would still get overworked and smear all over the rotor. HT-10 in the rear fixed that and helped balance the brakes better too.

This all depends on skill level, track and level of commitment, obviously. Seeing that he has an LS swap, and how fast an LS13 can potentially be, HP+ are less than ideal if he wants deceleration performance/consistency to match his acceleration and speed potential.
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I’ll be driving the car to the next event. Peter recommended the DTC-70 pad, but they’re a bit out of my price range, and I don’t want more front bias because I’m keeping the HPS pads in the rear. The car has to make a road trip to Missouri at the end of April, and I want a pad that will be up to the task of Buttonwillow and a 1,500 mile trip. I’m looking at HP+ or the Street Race pad.
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