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Old 09-01-2013, 03:57 PM   #31
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so, what is the number on Pure One oversized filter for s13 Red Top sr20det?
for s13 sr20 red or black top use 91-94 sentra se-r filter Part Number: PL14477

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Specifications:
Anti-Drain Back Valve Yes Height 3.52
O.D. 2.69 Relief Valve P.S.I. 14-18
Thread Pitch UNF-2B Threads 3/4-16
Type of Filter Spin-on
for s14/s15 sr20 use a 95-98 200sx filter Part Number: PL14610

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Threads M20-1.5 Type of Filter Spin-on
the sr oversized filters aren't quite as big as the KA ones for obvious reasons

KA24DE filter Part Number: PL20195
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I personally use WIX filters, they are awesome and actually not to pricey..

The dealer filters just charge you for the name... its annoying how much dealers charge for stuff thats no better than the next product thats half the price.

Ultimately ive used many different filters, from fram, K&N, WIX etc and never have had a catastrophic failure.

Either way though i still would trust my cars with a WIX filter over anything else.
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the WIX filter for our cars doesn't have a by-pass/relief valve

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Part Number: 51361
UPC Number: 765809513617
Principle Application: Infiniti (91-97), Nissan (88-99), Mercury Villager (93-98), Subaru (88-94)
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Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.113
Outer Diameter Top: 3.234
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed:
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=6/20
Burst Pressure-PSI: 340
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21
edit: OEM STYLE WIX DON'T HAVE IT

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Old 09-01-2013, 05:14 PM   #35
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for s13 sr20 red or black top use 91-94 sentra se-r filter Part Number: PL14477



for s14/s15 sr20 use a 95-98 200sx filter Part Number: PL14610



the sr oversized filters aren't quite as big as the KA ones for obvious reasons

KA24DE filter Part Number: PL20195
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the WIX filter for our cars doesn't have a by-pass/relief valve
That is why you don't run the stupid OEM type one and instead run any of the other ones that work. The Purolators that are for the KA24DE don't have them either. This is more a argument against running the OEM type and not really for brands.

PL24457


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Anti-Drain Back Valve Yes Height 4.02
O.D. 2.98 Relief Valve P.S.I. None
Thread Pitch UNF-2B Threads 3/4-16
Type of Filter Spin-on'

Pick your favorite brand, look up filter for a 2002 VW Passat 2.0L (Fram #PH2870A) and as long as it is not a Fram it is still going to be better than most anyone meant for the KA. Or just buy the Purolator or Wix I posted earlier and not have any worries.
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Oh cool, I edited my post then. I forgot the normal purolator don't have it either. Makes sense.
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So am I the only one to accompany my Amsoil Signature Series 10W-30 with one of their Ea oil filters?
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I just switched to a dixie cup wit a wire mesh connected to it. Ziptied on cause zip ties n 240s go together.
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This thread is quite informative. I had no idea that oil filters mattered so much. Now I know why my KA has these dry starts.
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So am I the only one to accompany my Amsoil Signature Series 10W-30 with one of their Ea oil filters?
Doubtful, just one of a select few to spend that much.
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Of course build quality matters, but these threads consistently miss the important part of the filter:

The filtration media.

As long as it holds things in place, the ends not being metal has nothing to do with anything. If you cut a filter and find the media torn or the end cap blown off, THAT would be cause for alarm.

The anti-drainback valves may or may not be properly testable by the "blow" method, with the lubrication and weight of oil they will act totally differently, and when they're constantly blown out of position by the fast flow of oil, the ones that return and seal every time you kill the engine may not be the same ones that would pass the blow test.
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also, i change my oil on my ka every 5k miles. and it has 231k and kicking strong. talk shit.
Theres nothing wrong with changing oil at 5k miles and dont let anyone else tell you otherwise. Oil had come a long way from what it used to be and 5k intervals is more than fine. Although Mobil is the only brand that advertises 5k change intervals AND backs it up with a 5k mile engine warranty from oil related failure. This is because they care more about the customer than the money, and stand behind there products. Mobil actually makes an engine oil, Mobil 1 Extended Performance, that guarantees your engine from oil related failure for 15k miles.

Let the people continue to waste there money because there either stubborn, or ill educated.

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If you know how to read oil then you'll know when it is time for a change. Any quality oil will have no problem lasting 5000 miles. Any of the cheaper / lower quality brands I wouldn't push it past 3000 miles, but then again I wouldn't put that in my engine to begin with.
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Oil filter arguments are as bad as oil (in general) arguments. We've got some service cars at our shop that get the cheapest oil and filter we can put in them as per company directions, and they go 200/300k without issues. I've got some customers cars that request we use their particular oil and filter in their service cars, and they blow up in half that time.

Heck look at all the lube/filter places you see, do you think they use a quality oil or filter? Yet customer cars commute into NYC (well in our area) daily, go multiple hundred thousands of miles, and don't worry. Again, the key to change oil on schedule.

I think the number one thing with these sort of things is just doing routine maintenance, and keeping a schedule. On my personal car I change the oil and filter after every track day, sometimes only having 500 miles on a car between events. I know some guys that skip, and those are the same guys with engines out every winter too.




Trust me, I know my opinion seems ignorant for as particular I am with some things, but most modern oils and filters do a good job. That combined with engines that don't piss fuel past the rings like old engines really helps the situation too.
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My 1997 ka24de in my truck always has dry starts no matter the oil filter i use...
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Can someone explain what is wrong with the OEM filter pictured? I see hair or something on the filter media, but other than that, I don't see anything obviously wrong.

I've been using a KA filter on my S13 SR. A friend once told me that was the correct filter but I found out shortly after that the SE-R filter is correct. I've continued to use the KA filter as it has a larger capacity and haven't had any issues with the o-ring sealing, but now I see the KA filter doesn't have a drain-back valve and the SE-R does?

I think I will be changing to a NapaGold SE-R filter.
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i ve been using amsoil dominator 15-50 with amsoil filters (whenever i didnt have GReddy or TRD)...i thought its a small fee to pay, for my 5.000$ engine... now with the sr, im gonna look for k&n or amsoil again... or bosch premium & mobil 1
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Can someone explain what is wrong with the OEM filter pictured? I see hair or something on the filter media, but other than that, I don't see anything obviously wrong.

I've been using a KA filter on my S13 SR. A friend once told me that was the correct filter but I found out shortly after that the SE-R filter is correct. I've continued to use the KA filter as it has a larger capacity and haven't had any issues with the o-ring sealing, but now I see the KA filter doesn't have a drain-back valve and the SE-R does?

I think I will be changing to a NapaGold SE-R filter.
anti-drainback valves keep oil in the filter so you dont have to re prime the oil filter on start up. This particular filter could become unreliable due to the paper endcaps absorbing oil and becoming flexible. Stick with good filters that use metal endcaps, STP, Wix, Purolator's, K&N, Mobil, etc.

But you dont have to go out and buy the most expensive filter on the market. I cant stress enough that the STP, the cheapest filter on the market, is just as good as K&N, Mobil and Purolator Pure 1. Ive cut open many stp filters and there quality was outstanding for the cost.
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This thread is quite informative. I had no idea that oil filters mattered so much. Now I know why my KA has these dry starts.
How can you tell if you're having dry starts?
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I read on another thread that nothing beats nissan oem filters for sr.

So here i am using oem filters thinking i'm doing good lol.
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LMFAO @ this thread. I've been using FRAM filters since I started playing around with cars back in 2001. I change ANY conventional oil every 3500-3800 miles (depending how dirty it really is). Not a single issue with any of my cheap filters! Go ahead kiddos, continue blowing extra $ on shit that doesn't matter! Get mad bros.
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LMFAO @ this thread. I've been using FRAM filters since I started playing around with cars back in 2001. I change ANY conventional oil every 3500-3800 miles (depending how dirty it really is). Not a single issue with any of my cheap filters! Go ahead kiddos, continue blowing extra $ on shit that doesn't matter! Get mad bros.
Doesnt matter how long you use it, it only has to fail once to fuck your shit up. Why take the chance? Once again, STP filters are cheaper than Fram and much higher quality.
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So guys, I'm comparing purolator 20195 filters, and am wondering what the differences are between the pureONE and classic filters. Is it mainly filter material?
I ask because I can get the classics locally, but would have to order pureONEs online.

Classic:
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Height: 4.74
O.D.: 2.98
Relief Valve P.S.I.: 12-15
Thread Pitch UNF-2B, Threads 3/4-16

pureONE:
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Height: 4.74
O.D.: 2.98
Relief Valve P.S.I.: 12-15
Thread Pitch UNF-2B, Threads 3/4-16
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So wix filters DO have anti drain valve? For like a 300zx
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So guys, I'm comparing purolator 20195 filters, and am wondering what the differences are between the pureONE and classic filters. Is it mainly filter material?
I ask because I can get the classics locally, but would have to order pureONEs online.

Classic:
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Height: 4.74
O.D.: 2.98
Relief Valve P.S.I.: 12-15
Thread Pitch UNF-2B, Threads 3/4-16

pureONE:
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Height: 4.74
O.D.: 2.98
Relief Valve P.S.I.: 12-15
Thread Pitch UNF-2B, Threads 3/4-16
filter material, quality of the drain back valve, and no outside grip would be the three differences

you can have your local advance auto order the pureone filters so you don't pay shipping
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filter material, quality of the drain back valve, and no outside grip would be the three differences

you can have your local advance auto order the pureone filters so you don't pay shipping
Thanks for the reply s0apgun! Walmart's the only purolator distributor in Canada and they only seem to carry classic and synthetic filters. I'd rather order online than try to deal with Walmart's customer service.
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i have an oil filter relocate, so the pure one i use is much fatter.

but honestly, if you're that worried about the oil filter, just make a custom system where you can install 2 of them. just use a bunch of AN lines and fittings, and attached it to the adapters plates. twice the filtering if you're that paranoid.
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