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kashira kureijii · 03-11-2016, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud_Strife

Goth enough for Japan.

No black hair 0/10

I'm glad this has become what we've always wanted, cute girl discussion thread.

I for one welcome being liberated from the dystopian tyranny of Mustang thread

Malik · 03-11-2016, 10:35 PM

she's cute for sure.

simmode1 · 03-11-2016, 10:46 PM

Yall tripping in here.

*exitspeed* · 03-12-2016, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by simmode1

Yall tripping in here.

All the reviews I've seen for the 2 Series say it's the M3 we've been missing for the last two or 3 generations.

***Future240*** · 03-12-2016, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

All the reviews I've seen for the 2 Series say it's the M3 we've been missing for the last two or 3 generations.

http://autoweek.com/article/drive-re...view-road-test

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On Sale: April
Base Price: $50,110 (Munich del.)
Drivetrain: 3.0-liter turbo I-6, 6-speed manual, RWD
Output: 365 hp @ 6,500 rpm, 369 lb-ft from 1,400-5,560 rpm in overboost (343 normal)
Curb Weight: 3,450 pounds
0-60 MPH: 4.2 seconds with DCT (mfg.)
Fuel Economy: n/a(EPA City/Hwy/Combined)
Pros: Wonderful to drive on a track or a twisty road
Cons: Costs twice the price of your Subaru BRZ.

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Originally Posted by Cloud_Strife

Kashira, I'm already in hot water. How am I going to turn slu**y goth girls into the future of FR coupe' cars?

You know you can say slutty right?

simmode1 · 03-12-2016, 07:44 AM

^^^Those are M2 stats. I posted a 228i. Starts at $33k. 2.0L turbo with a 5.7 second 0-60, so about as fast as a 350z. More comparable to the FRZ but can't match the Ecoboost in terms of sheet numbers. You're paying for the premium quality here. But on paper, the 228i is nearly a stat for stat match to the e36 M3.

Cloud_Strife · 03-12-2016, 10:27 AM

As much as I am for the berz, the low-end torque numbers for a 2016 228i blow the sub out of the water. I wouldn't really say that they're comparable even factoring the power to weight ratio in..

Maybe I missed your idea in the post though

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I've always like BMWs, I think they look nice and are quite comfortable. I just could never get past the social connotation of belonging to a country club. Plus the going myth that parts are premium prices, but I've heard otherwise from euro enthusiasts.

***Future240*** · 03-12-2016, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by simmode1

^^^Those are M2 stats. I posted a 228i. Starts at $33k. 2.0L turbo with a 5.7 second 0-60, so about as fast as a 350z. More comparable to the FRZ but can't match the Ecoboost in terms of sheet numbers. You're paying for the premium quality here. But on paper, the 228i is nearly a stat for stat match to the e36 M3.

Oops. I saw Mel's post and just assumed he was talking about the M2.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...pe-test-review

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VEHICLE TYPE: front-engine, 4-wheel-drive, 4-passenger, 2-door coupe

PRICE AS TESTED: $41,375 (base price: $34,850)

ENGINE TYPE: turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 16-valve inline-4, aluminum block and head, direct fuel injection

Displacement: 122 cu in, 1997 cc
Power: 240 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 255 lb-ft @ 1450 rpm

TRANSMISSION: 8-speed automatic with manual shifting mode

DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 105.9 in
Length: 174.7 in
Width: 69.8 in Height: 55.8 in
Passenger volume: 89 cu ft
Cargo volume: 14 cu ft
Curb weight: 3460 lb

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.0 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 13.3 sec
Zero to 120 mph: 20.5 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 6.0 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 3.2 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.7 sec @ 101 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 128 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 183 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.87 g
FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway: 23/35 mpg
C/D observed: 21 mpg

*exitspeed* · 03-12-2016, 03:52 PM

I was talking about the M2.

simmode1 · 03-12-2016, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

I was talking about the M2.

I feel so conflicted about the M2. Sounds like it's a great car. It's just not as great as it could have been. I was hoping for a greater weight reduction & a detuned s55.

Anyways, I'm more excited about the 228i because it shouldn't take much time at all for that thing to become cheap as shit. Hell, e92 335is are starting to drop to $10k and lower now. Best performance bargain i can think of.

Yardjass · 03-13-2016, 12:52 PM

Its a BMW. Will not buy.

Green Arrow · 03-13-2016, 01:36 PM

^can not afford. Lol
It's a great car, and BMW has seen better days in terms of drivers cars. But that doesn't take away for the new line. The heritage, the success....and you want to act like you wouldn't own one (even if you had the money).

feito · 03-13-2016, 02:23 PM

I know i woulndt, nor an r35 gtr, even if i was a millionaire.

Yardjass · 03-13-2016, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Arrow

^can not afford. Lol
It's a great car, and BMW has seen better days in terms of drivers cars. But that doesn't take away for the new line. The heritage, the success....and you want to act like you wouldn't own one (even if you had the money).

I hate to even dignify a "don't have the money" comment because they're usually made by people who just got a $50k job and think they're hot shit. I do have the money, and I choose to spend it on less irresponsible purchases than a fancy car. Even if I were to buy something like that, the chances I'd buy a BMW over a something like a Corvette, Lotus, or Fiat 4c are less than zero.

simmode1 · 03-13-2016, 05:33 PM

I'm just glad that BMW is giving enthusiasts the option. Personally, I'd pick a used 1, 2, 3 or 4 series over a 4C any day merely because BMW still offers a traditional manual transmission and Fiat doesn't. Thank god Corvette is hanging in there too. Lotus is great, but never really appealed to me however.

*exitspeed* · 03-14-2016, 07:35 AM

This thing is pretty rad. Nice work.

SimpleS14 · 03-14-2016, 01:53 PM

Rumormill says a hard-top version of the Miata will be revealed next week at the NY auto show. Heavier and more expensive im sure.....anyone find it interesting?

Yardjass · 03-14-2016, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

Rumormill says a hard-top version of the Miata will be revealed next week at the NY auto show. Heavier and more expensive im sure.....anyone find it interesting?

Nope, cause it's a stupid PFHT. If it was a one piece, fixed one then yes. I'm not sure it they make those from the factory yet or not.

CaliforniaMayhem · 03-14-2016, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by simmode1

I'm just glad that BMW is giving enthusiasts the option. Personally, I'd pick a used 1, 2, 3 or 4 series over a 4C any day merely because BMW still offers a traditional manual transmission and Fiat doesn't.

I think BMW announced recently that all new vehicles would not be offered in Manual because the future is in automatic transmissions. Don't recall the source though and I don't know when they will implement it.

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*exitspeed* · 03-14-2016, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

I know it's not a Mustang and it's loathed here, but Miata might be getting a hardtop versus in NY. I've always preferred the Miata hard tops.

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/11/m...hardtop-rumor/

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

Rumormill says a hard-top version of the Miata will be revealed next week at the NY auto show. Heavier and more expensive im sure.....anyone find it interesting?

There was no interest, just hate when I payed it. Lol

simmode1 · 03-14-2016, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaMayhem

I think BMW announced recently that all new vehicles would not be offered in Manual because the future is in automatic transmissions. Don't recall the source though and I don't know when they will implement it.

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All I could find on it was this from 2012:
http://www.bmwblog.com/2012/06/21/mo...ration-bmw-m5/

Which only applies to the M5 & no other lower, so-called 'bread & butter' models. I really hope its not true, but we all know it's coming. I bet the Vette will be the last to go.

*exitspeed* · 03-14-2016, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaMayhem

I think BMW announced recently that all new vehicles would not be offered in Manual because the future is in automatic transmissions. Don't recall the source though and I don't know when they will implement it.

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Originally Posted by simmode1

All I could find on it was this from 2012:
http://www.bmwblog.com/2012/06/21/mo...ration-bmw-m5/

Which only applies to the M5 & no other lower, so-called 'bread & butter' models. I really hope its not true, but we all know it's coming. I bet the Vette will be the last to go.

Allow me. Just the M models they said specifically.

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/07/06/b...capped-600-hp/

Shortly after that Porsche said they are commited to always offering a manual.

BMW is definitely commited to ditching the Ultimate Driving Machine. The fact that they X1 is their first fwd car shows they are dedicated to sales over thei image right now.

drift freaq · 03-15-2016, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

This thing is pretty rad. Nice work.

Hahahahaha I almost bought that car before he saw it. I passed because though it ran it was kind of a basket case. It needed a lot of work. Plus it was a Brown Z . I never liked that color, of course you can tell he threw a shit ton of cash at it.

S30's have gone the through the ceiling on prices because of Jay Leno . I kinda wish he would just shut the fuck up about them. It has made everyone who owns one think they have 50k collectible even if they are even completely correct.

On the M2 front I like it, makes me want to drive me M3 over to the dealer and test drive one.
I don't care what anyone says here once you drive a E36 M3 you will not think its a country club car. You will just want to go out and shame other sports cars.

simmode1 · 03-15-2016, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Allow me. Just the M models they said specifically.

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/07/06/b...capped-600-hp/

Shortly after that Porsche said they are commited to always offering a manual.

BMW is definitely commited to ditching the Ultimate Driving Machine. The fact that they X1 is their first fwd car shows they are dedicated to sales over thei image right now.

Well, well better get all the enjoyment out of BMW that we can. They're going the way of the Dodo.

I guess Porsche will be the last of the breed aside from the domestic muscle & JDM/KDM econoboxes.

*exitspeed* · 03-16-2016, 04:43 AM

The ZL1 is going to destroy the GT350. Over 100 more hp and it weighs significantly less. No wonder Ford is rushing the next gen.

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/16/2...-look-3487537/

***dorkidori_s13*** · 03-16-2016, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

The ZL1 is going to destroy the GT350. Over 100 more hp and it weighs significantly less. No wonder Ford is rushing the next gen.

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/16/2...-look-3487537/

yeah, but driving a camaro (no matter how fast) is STILL this...

zenkicpe · 03-16-2016, 09:10 AM

Nah uh not if you own one!!!

They lost 200lbs!

These things have a real engine with pistons man...

amazing performance in spades

*exitspeed* · 03-16-2016, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

yeah, but driving a camaro (no matter how fast) is STILL this...

But it's still fast.

*exitspeed* · 03-16-2016, 09:44 AM

An opinion piece for what's it's worth (which is 0). But a decent read.

http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/16/s...stang-opinion/

Cloud_Strife · 03-16-2016, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

Hahahahaha I almost bought that car before he saw it. I passed because though it ran it was kind of a basket case. It needed a lot of work. Plus it was a Brown Z . I never liked that color, of course you can tell he threw a shit ton of cash at it.

S30's have gone the through the ceiling on prices because of Jay Leno . I kinda wish he would just shut the fuck up about them. It has made everyone who owns one think they have 50k collectible even if they are even completely correct.

On the M2 front I like it, makes me want to drive me M3 over to the dealer and test drive one.
I don't care what anyone says here once you drive a E36 M3 you will not think its a country club car. You will just want to go out and shame other sports cars.

The E36 M3 is pretty much the only one I would own. Looks, power, and affordable.

Now a new BMW; forget about it. You're paying for a name, and a name that has had a significant downgrade in quality. They still can't figure out their gearboxes.

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Originally Posted by Yardjass

I hate to even dignify a "don't have the money" comment because they're usually made by people who just got a $50k job and think they're hot shit. I do have the money, and I choose to spend it on less irresponsible purchases than a fancy car. Even if I were to buy something like that, the chances I'd buy a BMW over a something like a Corvette, Lotus, or Fiat 4c are less than zero.

This might be my new signature text

Those late 80's Saloon 318/328/ whatever the number combination, are good cars. There is a celebrity who's building a sleeper and it seems their prices may start to rise.

But again these are older. I agree though, I don't think you have to drink an espresso with your pinky up if you have an E36

03-11-2016, 10:46 PM	#8493
simmode1 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 5,526 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yall tripping in here. __________________ "Simplicity is the key to brilliance." - Bruce Lee

03-12-2016, 07:44 AM	#8496
simmode1 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 5,526 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^^Those are M2 stats. I posted a 228i. Starts at $33k. 2.0L turbo with a 5.7 second 0-60, so about as fast as a 350z. More comparable to the FRZ but can't match the Ecoboost in terms of sheet numbers. You're paying for the premium quality here. But on paper, the 228i is nearly a stat for stat match to the e36 M3. __________________ "Simplicity is the key to brilliance." - Bruce Lee

03-12-2016, 03:52 PM	#8499
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I was talking about the M2. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

03-13-2016, 05:33 PM	#8505
simmode1 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 5,526 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm just glad that BMW is giving enthusiasts the option. Personally, I'd pick a used 1, 2, 3 or 4 series over a 4C any day merely because BMW still offers a traditional manual transmission and Fiat doesn't. Thank god Corvette is hanging in there too. Lotus is great, but never really appealed to me however. __________________ "Simplicity is the key to brilliance." - Bruce Lee

03-14-2016, 07:35 AM	#8506
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	This thing is pretty rad. Nice work. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

03-11-2016, 10:35 PM	#8492
Malik Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 1,796 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	she's cute for sure.

03-12-2016, 10:27 AM	#8497
Cloud_Strife Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Brooksville, FL Age: 34 Posts: 183 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	As much as I am for the berz, the low-end torque numbers for a 2016 228i blow the sub out of the water. I wouldn't really say that they're comparable even factoring the power to weight ratio in.. Maybe I missed your idea in the post though . I've always like BMWs, I think they look nice and are quite comfortable. I just could never get past the social connotation of belonging to a country club. Plus the going myth that parts are premium prices, but I've heard otherwise from euro enthusiasts.

03-13-2016, 12:52 PM	#8501
Yardjass Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mt. Pleasant, SC Age: 36 Posts: 408 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Its a BMW. Will not buy.

03-13-2016, 01:36 PM	#8502
Green Arrow BANNED Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: North Korea Posts: 349 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^can not afford. Lol It's a great car, and BMW has seen better days in terms of drivers cars. But that doesn't take away for the new line. The heritage, the success....and you want to act like you wouldn't own one (even if you had the money).

03-13-2016, 02:23 PM	#8503
feito Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,999 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I know i woulndt, nor an r35 gtr, even if i was a millionaire.

03-14-2016, 01:53 PM	#8507
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 41 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Rumormill says a hard-top version of the Miata will be revealed next week at the NY auto show. Heavier and more expensive im sure.....anyone find it interesting? __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

03-16-2016, 04:43 AM	#8515
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The ZL1 is going to destroy the GT350. Over 100 more hp and it weighs significantly less. No wonder Ford is rushing the next gen. http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/16/2...-look-3487537/ __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

03-16-2016, 09:10 AM	#8517
zenkicpe Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: NEPA Age: 43 Posts: 267 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Nah uh not if you own one!!! They lost 200lbs! These things have a real engine with pistons man... amazing performance in spades

03-16-2016, 09:44 AM	#8519
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	An opinion piece for what's it's worth (which is 0). But a decent read. http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/16/s...stang-opinion/ __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com