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second_chanceS14 · 09-27-2012, 05:50 PM

So lately my car dies on me randomly. I did notice in the mornings sometimes the car tends to smell like gas but the smell would go away, car ran fine and everything but if i shut it off after a casual drive it will start then the idle will drop below 500rpms bogg then die. I normally have to wait 30 to 45 mins before i can get the car to start. Ive tried different MAFs, cleaned the throttle body, cleaned the air filter. My distributor cap and rotor were switched a little under a year ago and i have denso iridum spark plugs which i got back in 09 but these are supposed to last 100k which i know i haven't exceeded. Now i looked at posts that talk about idling but my problem is only after i shut off the car and try restarting it, once its running it runs normally. Could this be a bad injector maybe that stays open and by letting it sit there it allows the fuel to evaporate ? bad fuel filter? although it was replaced 4 months ago?? Any suggestions and input is highly appreciated. Thanks

bkt808 · 09-27-2012, 06:47 PM

coolant temp sensor

second_chanceS14 · 09-27-2012, 08:09 PM

i just checked the injectors and they are all working correctly, i will replace the temp sensor tomorrow thanks bkt808

santi5222 · 09-29-2012, 01:07 PM

fuel pump ? could be going bad

Poppadoc · 09-29-2012, 04:29 PM

I agree sounds like coolant temp sensor. My did the same thing, changed that problem solved.

second_chanceS14 · 09-30-2012, 12:41 AM

cant be the fuel pump cause once its gone its gone lol i replaced the coolant temp sensor, no problems yet

second_chanceS14 · 09-30-2012, 06:24 PM

ok so today the problem came back the car started up fine then once it was warmed up and i turned it off and turned it back on it started doing the same thing, i tried giving it gas but it just bogged and died.

bkt808 · 10-01-2012, 01:13 AM

i wonder if the fpr is getting stuck

second_chanceS14 · 10-01-2012, 10:58 PM

so i think i figuired it out, my ignition has play and sometimes the fuel pump doesnt come on, the car starts but since it only has the fuel left in the lines it dies right away. Another problem i found was the egr might be clogged so im going to replace that and seafoam that sucker clean

BadIntentionS14 · 10-30-2012, 09:57 PM

I wonder if my Evap canister being gone is causing my issues.1995 SE All stock KA24DE except ebay exhaust and missing Evap can. I bought it that way and recently doing the same thing as yours too. Did you ever clean that EGR and did it help? Wouldn't a clogged EGR be the same as having an EGR block off plate?

How hard is it to replace the Coolant Temp Sensor?

hooknbook240sx · 11-01-2012, 09:28 PM

I am 90 percent sure its you're coolant temp sensor as you describe by your problem. This will cause running rich at idle and occasional rpm variance. If this is not the case I would say weak fuel pump. Hope you solve the problem

hooknbook

hooknbook240sx · 11-01-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BadIntentionS14

I wonder if my Evap canister being gone is causing my issues.1995 SE All stock KA24DE except ebay exhaust and missing Evap can. I bought it that way and recently doing the same thing as yours too. Did you ever clean that EGR and did it help? Wouldn't a clogged EGR be the same as having an EGR block off plate?

How hard is it to replace the Coolant Temp Sensor?

BadIntention- replacing the coolant temp sensor is fairly easy and is located next to the upper radiator hose near the intake manifold. If replacing the sensor is not the issue I would suggest cleaning the Evap cansister, replacing the fuel filter and or fuel pump, cleaning air filter and throttle body.

BadIntentionS14 · 11-01-2012, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hooknbook240sx

BadIntention- replacing the coolant temp sensor is fairly easy and is located next to the upper radiator hose near the intake manifold. If replacing the sensor is not the issue I would suggest cleaning the Evap cansister, replacing the fuel filter and or fuel pump, cleaning air filter and throttle body.

Thanks man I'm going to replace it, check for vacuum leaks, clean my throttlebody, reset my ecu and give her good 3 day period to see if it is gone or comes back.

Would my car run real rich or bad if I installed a Walboro 255 lph fuel pump? Imma search more just curious.

David William · 11-12-2012, 03:05 AM

I guess its between coolant temp sensor or fuel pump problem... Check this two i guess you need to replace one of these..
One of the most vital component of your vehicle, the fuel pump, is a device used to pump the fuel from the fuel tank to the engine or fuel injection system.
My car nissan patrol stopped working thought problem was immobilizer so disconnected immobilizer system car was still not working and no fuel pump noise, so replaced fuel pump with new unit still no noise so checked fuel pump connection with test light and power was there thought there might be problem with fuel pump assembly, so connected to battery and fuel pump ran beautifully. Went to rear of vehicle again checked pump with test light once again power was there, connected fuel pump assembly and fuel pump once again not running. I have no idea what the problem is either does my brother he is across the state my brother thought it may be the body module after he suggested the other tests over the phone. Could any one possibly help me with this problem my brother is stumped and i am 17 and i cant afford to get an auto electrician........ can somebody help me..????????

GU nissan patrol

09-27-2012, 05:50 PM	#1
second_chanceS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SOCAL Age: 36 Posts: 348 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Weird issue 95' KA24DE So lately my car dies on me randomly. I did notice in the mornings sometimes the car tends to smell like gas but the smell would go away, car ran fine and everything but if i shut it off after a casual drive it will start then the idle will drop below 500rpms bogg then die. I normally have to wait 30 to 45 mins before i can get the car to start. Ive tried different MAFs, cleaned the throttle body, cleaned the air filter. My distributor cap and rotor were switched a little under a year ago and i have denso iridum spark plugs which i got back in 09 but these are supposed to last 100k which i know i haven't exceeded. Now i looked at posts that talk about idling but my problem is only after i shut off the car and try restarting it, once its running it runs normally. Could this be a bad injector maybe that stays open and by letting it sit there it allows the fuel to evaporate ? bad fuel filter? although it was replaced 4 months ago?? Any suggestions and input is highly appreciated. Thanks __________________ They always go kouki or s15 front end. I say keep it G with the zenki

09-27-2012, 08:09 PM	#3
second_chanceS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SOCAL Age: 36 Posts: 348 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	i just checked the injectors and they are all working correctly, i will replace the temp sensor tomorrow thanks bkt808 __________________ They always go kouki or s15 front end. I say keep it G with the zenki

09-29-2012, 04:29 PM	#5
Poppadoc Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: henderson, Nv Age: 41 Posts: 199 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I agree sounds like coolant temp sensor. My did the same thing, changed that problem solved. __________________

09-30-2012, 12:41 AM	#6
second_chanceS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SOCAL Age: 36 Posts: 348 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	cant be the fuel pump cause once its gone its gone lol i replaced the coolant temp sensor, no problems yet __________________ They always go kouki or s15 front end. I say keep it G with the zenki

09-30-2012, 06:24 PM	#7
second_chanceS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SOCAL Age: 36 Posts: 348 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	ok so today the problem came back the car started up fine then once it was warmed up and i turned it off and turned it back on it started doing the same thing, i tried giving it gas but it just bogged and died. __________________ They always go kouki or s15 front end. I say keep it G with the zenki

09-27-2012, 06:47 PM	#2
bkt808 Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Wailuku, Maui, Hawaii Age: 36 Posts: 245 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	coolant temp sensor

09-29-2012, 01:07 PM	#4
santi5222 Join Date: May 2008 Location: miami Age: 36 Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	fuel pump ? could be going bad

10-01-2012, 01:13 AM	#8
bkt808 Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Wailuku, Maui, Hawaii Age: 36 Posts: 245 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i wonder if the fpr is getting stuck

10-01-2012, 10:58 PM	#9
second_chanceS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SOCAL Age: 36 Posts: 348 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	so i think i figuired it out, my ignition has play and sometimes the fuel pump doesnt come on, the car starts but since it only has the fuel left in the lines it dies right away. Another problem i found was the egr might be clogged so im going to replace that and seafoam that sucker clean __________________ They always go kouki or s15 front end. I say keep it G with the zenki

10-30-2012, 09:57 PM	#10
BadIntentionS14 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NC USA Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wonder if my Evap canister being gone is causing my issues.1995 SE All stock KA24DE except ebay exhaust and missing Evap can. I bought it that way and recently doing the same thing as yours too. Did you ever clean that EGR and did it help? Wouldn't a clogged EGR be the same as having an EGR block off plate? How hard is it to replace the Coolant Temp Sensor?

11-01-2012, 09:28 PM	#11
hooknbook240sx Join Date: May 2011 Location: South Florida Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am 90 percent sure its you're coolant temp sensor as you describe by your problem. This will cause running rich at idle and occasional rpm variance. If this is not the case I would say weak fuel pump. Hope you solve the problem hooknbook

11-12-2012, 03:05 AM	#14
David William Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Age: 43 Posts: 1 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	mystery fuel pump problem in my nissan patrol... help!!!!!!!!! I guess its between coolant temp sensor or fuel pump problem... Check this two i guess you need to replace one of these.. One of the most vital component of your vehicle, the fuel pump, is a device used to pump the fuel from the fuel tank to the engine or fuel injection system. My car nissan patrol stopped working thought problem was immobilizer so disconnected immobilizer system car was still not working and no fuel pump noise, so replaced fuel pump with new unit still no noise so checked fuel pump connection with test light and power was there thought there might be problem with fuel pump assembly, so connected to battery and fuel pump ran beautifully. Went to rear of vehicle again checked pump with test light once again power was there, connected fuel pump assembly and fuel pump once again not running. I have no idea what the problem is either does my brother he is across the state my brother thought it may be the body module after he suggested the other tests over the phone. Could any one possibly help me with this problem my brother is stumped and i am 17 and i cant afford to get an auto electrician........ can somebody help me..???????? GU nissan patrol Last edited by David William; 11-17-2012 at 10:46 PM..