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Mi Beardo es Loco · 09-26-2008, 09:06 PM

I honestly thought that if you were a Obama supporter, he hit on all cylinders. He hit on McCains questionable judgment and questionable stint in congress. He was not the "Bambi" that was being painted on him.
If you were a McCain supporter you were happy with his performance. He hit on his history and told a TON of stories of his history. He stressed that Obama was "not ready to lead."

I honestly think that people on the undecided fence would relate more with the Obama side. Less than 20% of Americans still agree in this war. This is down from 78% in 2002. Obama stressed McCain's alliance with Bush, who's approval rating is also the lowest of any president ever. McCain did a decent job but it sounded like his stories went on and on and on and on.

Interested in what you all think.

Gnnr · 09-26-2008, 09:25 PM

Had to work so I missed it. I'm looking for the video online but cant find it. grrr...

SlideWell · 09-26-2008, 09:30 PM

im interested to MEET someone who will admit to voting for bush.

imotion s14 · 09-26-2008, 09:44 PM

They both support the bail out of the banks.. they both support the Feds.. they both support israel... Obama thinks it's OK to launch raids into Pakistan if the intelligence is there.

What's the difference again? Oh right.. queer marriage and bible thumping.

Oh, the debates.. boring as hell.

SlideWell · 09-26-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by imotion s14

They both support the bail out of the banks.. they both support the Feds.. they both support israel... Obama thinks it's OK to launch raids into Pakistan if the intelligence is there.

What's the difference again? Oh right.. queer marriage and bible thumping.

Oh, the debates.. boring as hell.

haha so true. both want a lot of government. the ones that dont never make it to the the top. hopefully that will change once all these dumb ass baby boomers die off and shit.

RacerfreakXXX · 09-26-2008, 10:05 PM

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im interested to MEET someone who will admit to voting for bush.

ROFL

I think both parties had their good and bad side. Obama is inexperienced when it comes to the world, but has great intentions. I think McCain is a little too set in his way but has the experience to run the country. If Obama hadn't made the remark about going into Pakistan to go after the Taliban I think he would have been better off. McCain just wants to get the war over with where Obama seems to have this notion of actually going towards what the war was originally intended to do.

Overall I think this debate should have been about how they will deal with the fact that the US government is going to take over this debt that it can't afford to take over. I guess the US government is just like all the companies that take on all this debt till they turn bell side up.

Hopefully our nation will hang in there and this shit will get worked out.

LongGrain · 09-26-2008, 10:07 PM

i felt like every single one of mccains responses could have been summed up as "senator obama just doesnt understand because he is not as old as me, i was THERE when the dinosaurs went extinct"

he said that over and over again in a different order each time..

Mi Beardo es Loco · 09-26-2008, 10:38 PM

^^^I think that works well for 40+ but not very well with the younger.

I think McCain swung and missed when he stated that a he spoke to a mother of a soldier who died in Iraq and she didn't want him to die in vein. That indicated that a soldier is fighting for the glory and not following orders that were based on a fiction from a corrupt president. I thought Obama should have jumped on him for that but was a little soft on some subjects. Obama did wonderful on McCain's strengths though and that's why I think he won the debate.

**RJF** · 09-26-2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mi Beardo es Loco

I think McCain swung and missed when he stated that a he spoke to a mother of a soldier who died in Iraq and she didn't want him to die in vein. That indicated that a soldier is fighting for the glory and not following orders that were based on a fiction from a corrupt president. I thought Obama should have jumped on him for that but was a little soft on some subjects. Obama did wonderful on McCain's strengths though and that's why I think he won the debate.

Huh?

Won't even address your "corrupt president" remark, but Obama was on the defensive all night. He even did the old "Me too, teacher, me too" bit. "I have a bracelet too", although he didn't even know the soldier's name, he had to look down and read the name.

And what was with him constantly interrupting McCain when he was talking? The points McCain was making must have been accurate since BHO got very defensive. That's poor debate etiquette to interupt.

Bottom line is BHO is nothing but a "used car salesman" with zero experience, who talks a good game but has never done significant anything in his life.

SlideWell · 09-26-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RJF

Huh?

Won't even address your "corrupt president" remark, but Obama was on the defensive all night. He even did the old "Me too, teacher, me too" bit. "I have a bracelet too", although he didn't even know the soldier's name, he had to look down and read the name.

And what was with him constantly interrupting McCain when he was talking? The points McCain was making must have been accurate since BHO got very defensive. That's poor debate etiquette to interupt.

Bottom line is BHO is nothing but a "used car salesman" with zero experience, who talks a good game but has never done significant anything in his life.

accurate? ones argument does not have to be accurate for someone to want to interrupt them, more so, when they are very wrong they cant hold back from doing so. i see a maturity difference. i think its just sad both of these fools made it to the top.

fromxtor · 09-26-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SlideWell

im interested to MEET someone who will admit to voting for bush.

I voted for Bush both times.

SlideWell · 09-26-2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fromxtor

I voted for Bush both times.

i hope i meet you when i move back to the east coast

fromxtor · 09-27-2008, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SlideWell

i hope i meet you when i move back to the east coast

I'll be waiting

SlideWell · 09-27-2008, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fromxtor

I'll be waiting

28 and pickin a fight? get a life. at 28, you should know to just not say anything and admit that you voted for a poor candidate with a lot of money. i was joking and maybe you are too. im moving back when my mother passes away soon for political freedom and to be unruled on probation within this state in order of non extraditable offenses committed by me. i bet you rock a southern flag in your room or garage too.
so...as the english say (ive lived there too), fekkk off.

ALTRNTV · 09-27-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SlideWell

im interested to MEET someone who will admit to voting for bush.

I voted for Bush also, BOTH times.

drift freaq · 09-27-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SlideWell

28 and pickin a fight? get a life. at 28, you should know to just not say anything and admit that you voted for a poor candidate with a lot of money. i was joking and maybe you are too. im moving back when my mother passes away soon for political freedom and to be unruled on probation within this state in order of non extraditable offenses committed by me. i bet you rock a southern flag in your room or garage too.
so...as the english say (ive lived there too), fekkk off.

Wow you seem to picking a fight here yourself. Your contradicting your own words within the same paragraph. Oh and nice to see you commit crimes and then run. You really sound like a stand up guy. Maybe you should get extradited?

Oh and before you get upset with me, I am just pointing out truths that you yourself admitted to! Which pretty much means you trapped yourself here. Brilliance!!!

ALTRNTV · 09-27-2008, 12:39 AM

Damn 07's. I want the Rep System back.

jrbump · 09-27-2008, 01:01 AM

I will preface my take on the debate that I plan to vote for Obama.

I think that MCcaine stumbled a bit at first but soon found his stride.

I think that Obama learned from his past mistakes and came out strong and kept it up, presidential even.

These are both great leaders and either would do well in office, this debate however has not changed my decision.

Both made very good points and did well.

atom · 09-27-2008, 01:17 AM

They both hit their talking points, nothing too exciting. Nobody was a clear winner IMO, which kinda benefits Obama since foreign policy and experience was supposed to be McCain's forte.

I personally didn't like McCain's "you just don't get it". Some times it worked like when he was talking about the surge, but more often than not it just came off as patronizing.

SlideWell · 09-27-2008, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by drift freaq

Wow you seem to picking a fight here yourself. Your contradicting your own words within the same paragraph. Oh and nice to see you commit crimes and then run. You really sound like a stand up guy. Maybe you should get extradited?

Oh and before you get upset with me, I am just pointing out truths that you yourself admitted to! Which pretty much means you trapped yourself here. Brilliance!!!

i made a joke and someone stuck their middle finger out.
i contradict myself when i drink, who doesnt.
i am a very stand up guy. i did my time asshole. and still, yet, more n more comes. you have no idea what you are talking about. i was born here, and if ever faced court for such matters any further, i can go to a place where they cant touch me, Iran. does that upset you? lol, gtfoh

ALTRNTV · 09-27-2008, 01:35 AM

You made a joke, and in turn, he made another joke.
If you can't take other jokes, don't make them in the first
place. Don't get so butt hurt, this is only the internet.

SlideWell · 09-27-2008, 01:35 AM

doesnt sound like a joke on his end. thats a no brainer.
edit: ive owned 3 s14's, first in 03. just havent been on this forum since then. thanks for thinking.

cuddlesthesheep · 09-27-2008, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SlideWell

doesnt sound like a joke on his end. thats a no brainer.
edit: ive owned 3 s14's, first in 03. just havent been on this forum since then. thanks for thinking.

god shut the fvck up please! You sound like an absolute moron and your jacking this thread.

maybe you didnt notice his smiley face after his post?

I dont like you.

SlideWell · 09-27-2008, 01:49 AM

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god shut the fvck up please! You sound like an absolute moron and your jacking this thread.

maybe you didnt notice his smiley face after his post?

I dont like you.

do i care what you like or dont?

soreballz · 09-27-2008, 01:50 AM

^Sandy vag?

SlideWell · 09-27-2008, 01:53 AM

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^Sandy vag?

lol, and that feels gud. where u been man, popped out of the blue after a while.

soreballz · 09-27-2008, 02:48 AM

^I've been around. I don't post much anymore (aside from the regional section). Been busy... Teh interwebz is low on my priority list at this point in my life. lol

On topic: Presidential debates bore the piss out of me, and this one was no different. And yet... I keep watching them, in hopes of hearing a candidate say something spectacular that isn't complete horseshit.
They always let me down.

junn · 09-27-2008, 02:53 AM

MCcain kept on tryin to change the subject with his lame ass boring stories....who cares!!...just answer the question and stop stalling!!!

fromxtor · 09-27-2008, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SlideWell

28 and pickin a fight? get a life. at 28, you should know to just not say anything and admit that you voted for a poor candidate with a lot of money. i was joking and maybe you are too. im moving back when my mother passes away soon for political freedom and to be unruled on probation within this state in order of non extraditable offenses committed by me. i bet you rock a southern flag in your room or garage too.
so...as the english say (ive lived there too), fekkk off.

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Originally Posted by SlideWell

i made a joke and someone stuck their middle finger out.
i contradict myself when i drink, who doesnt.
i am a very stand up guy. i did my time asshole. and still, yet, more n more comes. you have no idea what you are talking about. i was born here, and if ever faced court for such matters any further, i can go to a place where they cant touch me, Iran. does that upset you? lol, gtfoh

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Originally Posted by SlideWell

doesnt sound like a joke on his end. thats a no brainer.
edit: ive owned 3 s14's, first in 03. just havent been on this forum since then. thanks for thinking.

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Originally Posted by SlideWell

do i care what you like or dont?

It was a joke, thus the smileys. Sorry you got all upset for no reason. Btw I currently live on a military installation, so it would be impossible for you to "come visit me" whenever you felt like it.

murda-c · 09-27-2008, 05:51 AM

This thread turned to suck real fast.

I suggest moderators delete a bunch of posts, including this one.

09-26-2008, 09:25 PM	#2
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SlideWell Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 40 Posts: 1,591 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	im interested to MEET someone who will admit to voting for bush.

09-26-2008, 09:44 PM	#4
imotion s14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Houston, TX Age: 43 Posts: 713 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	They both support the bail out of the banks.. they both support the Feds.. they both support israel... Obama thinks it's OK to launch raids into Pakistan if the intelligence is there. What's the difference again? Oh right.. queer marriage and bible thumping. Oh, the debates.. boring as hell.

09-26-2008, 10:07 PM	#7
LongGrain Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,741 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	i felt like every single one of mccains responses could have been summed up as "senator obama just doesnt understand because he is not as old as me, i was THERE when the dinosaurs went extinct" he said that over and over again in a different order each time..

09-27-2008, 12:39 AM	#17
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Damn 07's. I want the Rep System back.

09-27-2008, 01:01 AM	#18
jrbump Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 663 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I will preface my take on the debate that I plan to vote for Obama. I think that MCcaine stumbled a bit at first but soon found his stride. I think that Obama learned from his past mistakes and came out strong and kept it up, presidential even. These are both great leaders and either would do well in office, this debate however has not changed my decision. Both made very good points and did well.

09-27-2008, 01:17 AM	#19
atom Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,196 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	They both hit their talking points, nothing too exciting. Nobody was a clear winner IMO, which kinda benefits Obama since foreign policy and experience was supposed to be McCain's forte. I personally didn't like McCain's "you just don't get it". Some times it worked like when he was talking about the surge, but more often than not it just came off as patronizing.

09-27-2008, 01:35 AM	#21
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You made a joke, and in turn, he made another joke. If you can't take other jokes, don't make them in the first place. Don't get so butt hurt, this is only the internet.

09-27-2008, 02:53 AM	#28
junn Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: lynwood/cpt Posts: 777 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	MCcain kept on tryin to change the subject with his lame ass boring stories....who cares!!...just answer the question and stop stalling!!!