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turtle m3th · 11-28-2011, 08:30 PM

Got any updates?

broke 20 · 07-14-2012, 10:48 AM

updated

broke 20 · 07-14-2012, 11:10 AM

Mods if you could please move this to the build section....I started this thread before that section opened, sorry for it sitting dorment until I updated it

ZdProjects · 07-14-2012, 07:44 PM

Dude I just was going through my bookmarks and found your thread from awhile back! Let's see some updates man!

broke 20 · 07-14-2012, 07:49 PM

^^added updates to original post

90S13Pilot · 07-14-2012, 09:12 PM

loving the progress! Looks good!

zurud · 07-15-2012, 02:11 AM

The exhaust manifold is restrictive as hell. Even D15 honda engine is double that size.

broke 20 · 07-15-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by zurud

The exhaust manifold is restrictive as hell. Even D15 honda engine is double that size.

You can barely see the manifold? And I guarantee the runners of a d15 manifold are not larger. The aftermarket shorties are much smoother/larger than the stock manifold on a 302.

Disgusting oem manifolds

Aftermarket shorty manifolds

broke 20 · 07-29-2012, 07:24 PM

Life has been busy so I havent had as much time in the garage as I would like. Have been able to get some little things done though. I picked up some wheels of craigslist for $75. They arent the greatest looking wheels, but they were cheap as hell so I dont care. They are 17x8 +30 and 17x9.5 +20.

Here is a picture of the completed steering. We used two of the OEM steering U joints and welded them together to make a double U joint. You can buy these from jegs/summit/flamingriver, but they are like 170 bucks or something like that. With any double you joint, you MUST brace the steering shaft to keep it from binding. Its pretty easy to do, pick up a steering brace online for like $30 and make a bracket. We made a triangular bracket and welded it to the top of the frame rail.

The custom wire harness is about 98% complete. Still need to wire up the turn signals, hazards and brake switch. I got the dash trimmed to fit around the cage, gauge panel and switch panel made/mounted. As soon as the wiring is done, I will mount the seats/harnesses, then just plumb up the hydro e brake and the interior will be complete.

My 2.5 month old son inspecting my work

blessedhellrider · 07-29-2012, 07:36 PM

kinda like and kinda dont like the dash ..looks like 88mph is in the future.
and not a fan of the zebra print ..but definitely cool project. good luck.

DizzleFoShizzle · 07-29-2012, 08:12 PM

Duuuude dash looks sick! Love how everything is coming together. I'll definitely have to stop by someday, wish I had more time bud.

OLDSCHOOLRICER · 07-29-2012, 10:25 PM

So with this steering mod you can run long tube headers? That would be awesome

broke 20 · 07-29-2012, 10:43 PM

Thanks guys. I know the gauge cluster is not for everyone, but I like it because its something different and was well priced for being a full digital gauge setup. And its super easy to calibrate, does 0 to 60 times as well as 1/4 mile times. I doubt I will ever use those features, but it might be fun to play with one day.

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Originally Posted by OLDSCHOOLRICER

So with this steering mod you can run long tube headers? That would be awesome

I wish I had access to a lot of different styles of long tubes to test. Its still a tight clearance with the shorties I have, but it clears easily. I have only been able to try to fit a set of hedmen long tubes from a friends 67 mustang, and there was no way they were going to fit.

OLDSCHOOLRICER · 07-30-2012, 01:49 AM

Oh ok I see. So with what you did you no longer have to route the driver side header to the front....

broke 20 · 07-30-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OLDSCHOOLRICER

Oh ok I see. So with what you did you no longer have to route the driver side header to the front....

Exactly. Didnt want to have the ghetto look of the passenger manifold mounted properly and the driver side flipped upside down.

OLDSCHOOLRICER · 07-30-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by broke 20

Exactly. Didnt want to have the ghetto look of the passenger manifold mounted properly and the driver side flipped upside down.

Genius I tell you. Good luck I hope I can soon do this swap soon to

broke 20 · 07-30-2012, 03:06 PM

Thanks bud. Post up a build thread. I think ford drivetrains will become increasingly common and nothing wrong with adding some knowledge about the swap.

OLDSCHOOLRICER · 07-30-2012, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broke 20

Thanks bud. Post up a build thread. I think ford drivetrains will become increasingly common and nothing wrong with adding some knowledge about the swap.

Yup and so will the prices on the swap and drivetrain. Need to get parts before cool factor/ drift tax/poor man cool v8 swap alternative comes into play

240sxdriftin · 07-30-2012, 04:49 PM

Get this thing going already! I'm ready to play!

broke 20 · 07-30-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 240sxdriftin

Get this thing going already! I'm ready to play!

Drive your broke ass to florida, you will even get your own room fo free

808drft · 07-30-2012, 06:55 PM

nice build man had yur build saved under my bookmarks. looks like u finally go the ball rolling again. i just got my 302 swap finished and loving it. im thinking of doing the steering shaft mod like u or jus jus mod the shorty's around the column. is modding the steering shaft legal in fd and xdc?? jus wondering. ok enough of my talking lets see more updates! haha

drscooper · 07-30-2012, 07:03 PM

damm nice build man! intresting and for some reason i like that zebra print lol haha!

broke 20 · 07-30-2012, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 808drft

nice build man had yur build saved under my bookmarks. looks like u finally go the ball rolling again. i just got my 302 swap finished and loving it. im thinking of doing the steering shaft mod like u or jus jus mod the shorty's around the column. is modding the steering shaft legal in fd and xdc?? jus wondering. ok enough of my talking lets see more updates! haha

Thats a very valid point and honestly I hadnt put much thought into until this post. Here is a quote from page 31 of the Formula D 2012 PDF Rulebook-

8.3.6. Steering
Modifications of steering components (steering rack, tie rods, etc) are free.
This includes mounting the rack to the front subframe.

And here is a quote from page 12 of the XDC Rulebook PDF-

4.2.6 Steering:
Modifications of steering components (steering rack, tie rods, etc) are free. This includes mounting the steering rack to the front sub-frame.

Looks like everything is legal

808drft · 07-30-2012, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broke 20

Thats a very valid point and honestly I hadnt put much thought into until this post. Here is a quote from page 31 of the Formula D 2012 PDF Rulebook-

8.3.6. Steering
Modifications of steering components (steering rack, tie rods, etc) are free.
This includes mounting the rack to the front subframe.

And here is a quote from page 12 of the XDC Rulebook PDF-

4.2.6 Steering:
Modifications of steering components (steering rack, tie rods, etc) are free. This includes mounting the steering rack to the front sub-frame.

Looks like everything is legal

hmmm i guess so then huh haha wonder why more ppl dont do that then. guess i might go the route u went.

ShakotanGazelle · 07-31-2012, 09:44 AM

this thing needs a flat crank conversion

broke 20 · 07-31-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ShakotanGazelle

this thing needs a flat crank conversion

I didnt know what that was so I researched it....daayyyuummm...that is well beyond what I am ready for

We were able to make some progress on the car this morning before work. Next big thing was to tackle the exhaust. I have a 3" catback that a buddy gave me, so I couldnt justify not using it since it was free and in decent shape. We took 2.5" pipe off each shorty header, brought them into a 2.5" inlet 3" outlet flowmaster Y pipe. The driver side was pretty straight forward with only one major bend. The passenger side was a bit more of a pain, with a turn coming under the transmission then a turn going back to the Y pipe. Overall wasnt too bad though, especially for this being the first time my roommate and I have ever made an exhaust. Everything is tacked and about 60% welded, had to hold off on finishing due to a rain delay/work.

Passenger side

Everything tacked and dropped out to be welded

Roommate earning his keep

Rain delay. I am pretty happy with the profile of the exhaust. The pipe coming under the tranny doesnt hang so low I will need to stress about crushing it.

We also finished up the trans mount last week but I never took/posted pictures of it. Wasnt too bad to make, just used some plate steel and rectangular tube steel, and re inforced it with some pretty little triangles.

More updates soon to come, hoping to get the motor fired up by the end of the week

eklipse38 · 08-01-2012, 03:40 AM

I'm going to keep an eye on this build. I'm planning a 302 swap soon.

OLDSCHOOLRICER · 08-05-2012, 10:58 AM

Any updates? Did you're steering mod work to clear the shorty headers on the driver side?

broke 20 · 08-05-2012, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDSCHOOLRICER

Any updates? Did you're steering mod work to clear the shorty headers on the driver side?

Yep, gave me just enough clearance to not have to modify the manifold.

Still have a lot of little stuff to work on, but we got the car running today and roughly timed. Watch the video in HD for the best sound quality. The video kills it a bit, but it sounds like a freaking beast enclosed in the garage

Imarvin240 · 08-05-2012, 08:35 PM

great progress on the car, awesome job.

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broke 20 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Panama City Beach Age: 36 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	updated

07-14-2012, 11:10 AM	#63
broke 20 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Panama City Beach Age: 36 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Mods if you could please move this to the build section....I started this thread before that section opened, sorry for it sitting dorment until I updated it

07-14-2012, 07:44 PM	#64
ZdProjects Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dude I just was going through my bookmarks and found your thread from awhile back! Let's see some updates man!

07-14-2012, 07:49 PM	#65
broke 20 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Panama City Beach Age: 36 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^added updates to original post

07-14-2012, 09:12 PM	#66
90S13Pilot Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Minneapolis Age: 34 Posts: 143 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	loving the progress! Looks good!

07-15-2012, 02:11 AM	#67
zurud Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: evansville, in Posts: 391 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	The exhaust manifold is restrictive as hell. Even D15 honda engine is double that size.

07-29-2012, 07:24 PM	#69
broke 20 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Panama City Beach Age: 36 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Life has been busy so I havent had as much time in the garage as I would like. Have been able to get some little things done though. I picked up some wheels of craigslist for $75. They arent the greatest looking wheels, but they were cheap as hell so I dont care. They are 17x8 +30 and 17x9.5 +20. Here is a picture of the completed steering. We used two of the OEM steering U joints and welded them together to make a double U joint. You can buy these from jegs/summit/flamingriver, but they are like 170 bucks or something like that. With any double you joint, you MUST brace the steering shaft to keep it from binding. Its pretty easy to do, pick up a steering brace online for like $30 and make a bracket. We made a triangular bracket and welded it to the top of the frame rail. The custom wire harness is about 98% complete. Still need to wire up the turn signals, hazards and brake switch. I got the dash trimmed to fit around the cage, gauge panel and switch panel made/mounted. As soon as the wiring is done, I will mount the seats/harnesses, then just plumb up the hydro e brake and the interior will be complete. My 2.5 month old son inspecting my work

07-29-2012, 07:36 PM	#70
blessedhellrider Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: tampaish Age: 42 Posts: 277 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	kinda like and kinda dont like the dash ..looks like 88mph is in the future. and not a fan of the zebra print ..but definitely cool project. good luck.

07-29-2012, 08:12 PM	#71
DizzleFoShizzle Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Panama City, FL Age: 36 Posts: 21 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Duuuude dash looks sick! Love how everything is coming together. I'll definitely have to stop by someday, wish I had more time bud.

07-29-2012, 10:25 PM	#72
OLDSCHOOLRICER Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: fontana,ca Posts: 420 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	So with this steering mod you can run long tube headers? That would be awesome

07-30-2012, 01:49 AM	#74
OLDSCHOOLRICER Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: fontana,ca Posts: 420 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Oh ok I see. So with what you did you no longer have to route the driver side header to the front....

07-30-2012, 03:06 PM	#77
broke 20 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Panama City Beach Age: 36 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks bud. Post up a build thread. I think ford drivetrains will become increasingly common and nothing wrong with adding some knowledge about the swap.

07-30-2012, 06:55 PM	#81
808drft Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hotville Phoeinx, Missing Hawaii :( Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	nice build man had yur build saved under my bookmarks. looks like u finally go the ball rolling again. i just got my 302 swap finished and loving it. im thinking of doing the steering shaft mod like u or jus jus mod the shorty's around the column. is modding the steering shaft legal in fd and xdc?? jus wondering. ok enough of my talking lets see more updates! haha

07-30-2012, 07:03 PM	#82
drscooper Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: homegrown Posts: 799 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damm nice build man! intresting and for some reason i like that zebra print lol haha!

07-31-2012, 09:44 AM	#85
ShakotanGazelle Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 514 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	this thing needs a flat crank conversion

08-01-2012, 03:40 AM	#87
eklipse38 Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: tennessee Posts: 65 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I'm going to keep an eye on this build. I'm planning a 302 swap soon.

08-05-2012, 10:58 AM	#88
OLDSCHOOLRICER Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: fontana,ca Posts: 420 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Any updates? Did you're steering mod work to clear the shorty headers on the driver side?