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Dirty Habit · 09-04-2008, 01:19 PM

Thats all Im getting when I try and start my car. Pulled the starter to see whats up. Had it tested, its all good, turned the motor, didnt see any broken teeth. KA24DE FYI.
Always started up just fine before. Just fixed cooling issues..now this.

Ideas. Everytime it cranks twice and then grinds.

Help is appreciated.

Massimo Power · 09-04-2008, 01:31 PM

Ive seen this happen before.. but each time has a been a different cause..

It could be the starter.. not being able to pop out far enough to grab the flywheel properly..

It could be the flywheel.. maybe 1 or 2 missing teeth out of 200..

it could be your battery.. not properly giving out enough amps to power the starter to puch onto the flywheel properly..

it could be the wiring. not making proper contact causing the starter to not funtion correctly...

any of those could be the culprit.. let me know if that helps..

WaNa-DrIft · 09-04-2008, 01:33 PM

imma have to agree with that guy...

Dirty Habit · 09-04-2008, 03:09 PM

Thanks massimo. Im gonna go have the battery checked or recharged, see what happens. I marked a tooth with a paint marker and cranked it all the way back around, no teeth missing that I could see.
Wiring is fine, went back through with a multimeter, just checking shit. So it could be the starter not lining up or the battery, hopefully its the battery.

96Turbo · 09-04-2008, 03:24 PM

check the grounding of the starter. there's a small little ground cable that goes from the motor to the body of the starter itself. i took mine off and roughed everything up with a dremel and that fixed all my starter issues. after that you could even try bolting a temporary ground straight into one of the starter bolts

otherwise it's gotta be battery or the (+) cable

s13dan · 09-04-2008, 03:25 PM

sometimes hitting it with a hammer actually works in this situation, it can knock the silenoid smart

96Turbo · 09-04-2008, 03:50 PM

^^yes, but we've already established it's a good starter (he had it checked)

so it has to be wiring/power supply

180ways2slide · 09-04-2008, 09:08 PM

make sure the wire that gives the starter the signal has a good connection my car did the same and that little connector was not connected good

09-04-2008, 01:19 PM	#1
Dirty Habit Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 2,069 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: Dirty Habit Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Crank crank grind Thats all Im getting when I try and start my car. Pulled the starter to see whats up. Had it tested, its all good, turned the motor, didnt see any broken teeth. KA24DE FYI. Always started up just fine before. Just fixed cooling issues..now this. Ideas. Everytime it cranks twice and then grinds. Help is appreciated. __________________ 1982 280zx Turbo

09-04-2008, 01:31 PM	#2
Massimo Power Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 322 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Ive seen this happen before.. but each time has a been a different cause.. It could be the starter.. not being able to pop out far enough to grab the flywheel properly.. It could be the flywheel.. maybe 1 or 2 missing teeth out of 200.. it could be your battery.. not properly giving out enough amps to power the starter to puch onto the flywheel properly.. it could be the wiring. not making proper contact causing the starter to not funtion correctly... any of those could be the culprit.. let me know if that helps.. __________________ www.massimopower.com PH: 1(951)402-5386 EM:[email protected] Special Thanks To: www.aeperformance.com www.domospeed.com/blog For Their Continued Support

09-04-2008, 01:33 PM	#3
WaNa-DrIft Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Saint Paul, MN Age: 36 Posts: 113 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	imma have to agree with that guy... __________________ Where ohh where to find my love...Silvia, please come to me once more.

09-04-2008, 03:09 PM	#4
Dirty Habit Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 2,069 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: Dirty Habit Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Thanks massimo. Im gonna go have the battery checked or recharged, see what happens. I marked a tooth with a paint marker and cranked it all the way back around, no teeth missing that I could see. Wiring is fine, went back through with a multimeter, just checking shit. So it could be the starter not lining up or the battery, hopefully its the battery. __________________ 1982 280zx Turbo

09-04-2008, 03:25 PM	#6
s13dan Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,519 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	sometimes hitting it with a hammer actually works in this situation, it can knock the silenoid smart __________________ 89 240sx hatch #933-the hot rod 91 240sx coupe #131,603-the daily

09-04-2008, 03:24 PM	#5
96Turbo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: AZ Age: 35 Posts: 1,315 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	check the grounding of the starter. there's a small little ground cable that goes from the motor to the body of the starter itself. i took mine off and roughed everything up with a dremel and that fixed all my starter issues. after that you could even try bolting a temporary ground straight into one of the starter bolts otherwise it's gotta be battery or the (+) cable

09-04-2008, 03:50 PM	#7
96Turbo Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: AZ Age: 35 Posts: 1,315 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	^^yes, but we've already established it's a good starter (he had it checked) so it has to be wiring/power supply

09-04-2008, 09:08 PM	#8
180ways2slide Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: new york Age: 40 Posts: 125 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	make sure the wire that gives the starter the signal has a good connection my car did the same and that little connector was not connected good