school me on oil cooler setups.

[japslapsilvia]

Originally Posted by drftmark

If you are piecing your oil cooler "kit" together, then what kind of thermostat does everyone get?

there are a few to choose from. check summit racing, BUT most of those (ie earls, permacool etc.) dont offer filter mount as in they are stand alone, which will add up to more fittings the greddy one i have is thermostat and filter re-location all in one.

[japslapsilvia]

Originally Posted by Sir

Looks a lot like my setup. Only I used bulkhead fittings, to get the lines not to rub throught against the body/radiator.

Tomei block, Setrab cooler, -8an.

i wanted to use the bulkhead fittings but then i have to get a total of 4 more -10 fittings, i dont have it pictured but i have an aluminum bracket my cousin made for me to hold the lines, i think anplumbing sell them "line seperators" the one i have is similar but has a base to mount it.

Why did u use -8 line? tomei adapter is -10

[Slidin240Wayz]

What about this setup?

GReddy Oil Cooler Adaptor W/Thermostat 12401123

+

-10 line

+

cooler

?

[ZipTiedCoupe]

Anyone car to explain the duct tape method?

[Slidin240Wayz]

duct tape...covers the cooler...no air through fins...no cool

[Dousan_PG]

[LongGrain]

is not running a t-stat really that bad?

i could be wrong but it doesnt seem to me like a simple oil cooler setup is going to stop your car from reaching operating temp or anything. is should be ok to run the oil through the cooler full time, kind of the same theory as having your E-fans running all the time, which i do. it may take longer to warm up, but that should be the only downside?

[MrChow]

Originally Posted by LongGrain

is not running a t-stat really that bad?

i could be wrong but it doesnt seem to me like a simple oil cooler setup is going to stop your car from reaching operating temp or anything. is should be ok to run the oil through the cooler full time, kind of the same theory as having your E-fans running all the time, which i do. it may take longer to warm up, but that should be the only downside?

I was just thinking about that... Someone wanna chime in about this??

[japslapsilvia]

Originally Posted by Slidin240Wayz

What about this setup?

GReddy Oil Cooler Adaptor W/Thermostat 12401123

+

-10 line

+

cooler

?

it will work but no filter re-location. if you are planing on relocation the filter dont get that.

[Dousan_PG]

i dont run any thermos
so dont look at me
but my car is track duty only so its a different story

if i go street status w/ the next s13, no thermo on oil cooler, ,but ill run a water thermo again.

[LongGrain]

word, i dont plan on running one for the cooler.

btw, lots of GREAT info in this thread, big thanks to everyone who contributed!

[Firestorm]

i run a 19 row mocal oil cooler, greddy oil filter relocation kit and a mocal inline thermostat. works awesome, constant temps around 180°F even on the track.

[efrain240sx]

I got a simple question, How many quarts of oil are you guys using now with the oil cooler set up? Thanks

[burnsauto]

Originally Posted by efrain240sx

I got a simple question, How many quarts of oil are you guys using now with the oil cooler set up? Thanks

5.

It just takes forever the first time you fill up the system, like bleeding a coolant system (just with no air pockets)


my setup:

tomei block
greddy relocation/thermostat
about 4 ft of -10 line
Earlys 19 row intercooler.

(pic for reference, and routing ideas: don't mind the mess...this was last summer when I was still putting everything back together.)

[96Turbo]

Originally Posted by LongGrain

word, i dont plan on running one for the cooler.

btw, lots of GREAT info in this thread, big thanks to everyone who contributed!

whether you choose to run a tstat depends on various things.

most track only guys find them unnecessary since once it's up to operating temp it's going to have the piss beat out of it until it's cool off time

But if you drive it daily, short trips, or in the cold (OP from wisconsin!!!), you really should run a thermostat. Oil coolers are very effective at cooling oil...so it's gonna take a long time to get the oil up to optimum temp after startup if it's always cycling through the cooler. You dont' want cold thick ass oil as it's not the best at lubricating all the vitals

[96Turbo]

here's another reason:

(copied from greddy's product info)

the most important part of this is the built in Thermostat. This allows for quick engine warm up and maintains a safe oil pressure upon startup. Without using a thermostat, some oil coolers take a while to fill up and build pressure giving longer duration to get proper oil circulation within the motor. The thermostat open temperature ranges from 71deg~85deg Celcius.

[dmax_silvia_s13]

I am looking at EarlsOil Filter By-Pass Adapters and I am wondering does the redtop sr20 use a 65mm or 69.2 mm O-Ring.
And does that inline filter that was mentioned earlier work any good?
Also, my oil cooler has -6 fittings and i see you guys are using -10. Is -6 too small to run for the lines or should I use -8 or -10 lines to the cooler and use expanders on the cooler for the bigger lines?

[Dousan_PG]

-6
way too small imo

-6 is what i use on the fuel lines! hahaha
and my PS setup
use that cooler for your PS

go AT LEAST -8 imo

[dmax_silvia_s13]

Haha Well its a fluidyne "valve spring cooler" (FLUIDYNE - High Performance - Radiators and Oil Coolers).
I would use it as a ps cooler but that kinda seems excessive to me.
I could use this and use a -6 female to -8 male expander on the oil cooler and run -8 lines.
I saw you talking about that inline filter. Have you heard anything about it?

[dmax_silvia_s13]

And another major noob question here.. When I buy hose what else do I have get to attach fittings to the hose?

[Dousan_PG]

ps its awesome for
-6 is way too small, imo

u have to assemble it yoruself
if u cant, pay a shop
otherwise u can blow the shit apart and kill your engine (no oil pressure)

[GSXRJJordan]

Originally Posted by LongGrain

is not running a t-stat really that bad?

Based on the recommendations of a few "respected" people (Aaron here and Hung @ Baker Precision, among others), I pieced together a system at Baker for less than $130, with filter relocation and a Earls 8row -10 an cooler core - no thermo. Mounted the filter on the inner frame rail right in front of the motor and the core underneath the passenger headlight above the intercooler piping - used less than 8ft of hose.

I don't run an oil temp gauge, but I do run an oil pressure gauge (in addition to water temp and boost), and that's how I'm able to tell when the car's fully warmed up. At startup, oil pressure jumps to 60psi or so (normal) right away, so I'm not worried about the extra "pressure" the thermo supposedly helps with, but it does take a while to fully warm up (I consider it warmed up when the oil pressure drops below 20psi at idle) - maybe 5 mins idling in the garage or 3-4mins of idling around town.

I wouldn't say it's dangerous, but it's not foolproof.

Originally Posted by Dousan_PG

-6
way too small imo

-6 is what i use on the fuel lines! hahaha
and my PS setup
use that cooler for your PS

go AT LEAST -8 imo

-6???? Do they even make cores that are -6?? Maybe like a 2-row P/S cooler core... Like "Father" said, go -8 at least.

[dmax_silvia_s13]

Well like I said I can get the expanders on the cooler and run -8 lines.
Yeah I know the lines have to be cut and the fittings put it but Im just wondering what do I need to get with it. Just the econo clamps they sell or how do you do it?

And yeah fluidyne makes a -6 core the link is above to it.

[Dousan_PG]

your setup sucks for oil cooling
no one can help u now. your not listening to anything.
go 1/2 ass it like you want to.
its only your engine. nothing important.

[s13dan]

ok, i got a qeustion... If i get an adaptor for an oil cooler do i have to remove my intake mani to install it?? Or is there room.

[dmax_silvia_s13]

I never knew you were saying dont use it. I thought you meant its just bad having -6 lines.
I was kinda thinking its pretty small compared to other oil coolers so I guess I was right.
So Ill either not use it or use it for power steering.
Thanks for the help.

[240sxvaj]

good info on the oil coolers

thanks ya!

[Dousan_PG]

theres room to install it w/o taking off man

dmax silvia
ebay for a -8 cooler
nascar used ones are wicked cheap.

[slider2828]

Hey dousan, so why is the greddy stuff sucky? Hows the RX7 oil cooler?

[dmax_silvia_s13]

Yeah Ill prob just get an Earls -10 cooler!
Thanks for the help Dousan.