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Old 01-12-2012, 07:15 PM   #1
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i think you should leave this out of a car forum. or at least post it where it belongs.
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Myself, I'm a non-believer. However, I feel that if all of the believers followed this fellas example, the world would be a happier, more pleasant place.
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Is this a joke?
What are you talking about, how would this be a joke.


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Weak arguments to not like religion. Weak arguments to love Christ. Weaker spoken word.

At least the camera work and editing were good.
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I thought he made some simple but very good points. It's a 3 minute long Youtube video not a sermon
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LOL he would be rapping. made it about 15 seconds in.
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Ive been telling people this shit for years now. Religion has caused more harm and seperation among people than good. If you wanna believe in some all-powerful being creating the known universe, fine. But you shouldnt live your life by some book or what a group of people say.
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I thought he made some simple but very good points. It's a 3 minute long Youtube video not a sermon
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Gotta love 12 minute rants by some fat bastard who disagrees. It's like saying "hey I don't give a fuck about what this guy has to say, nor do I support it but I'll go ahead and spread his message to everyone I can."
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Weak arguments to not like religion. Weak arguments to love Christ. Weaker spoken word.

At least the camera work and editing were good.
weak but good videography? ..KEN BLOCK!?
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And I'm sure some of you also believe that Lil Wayne is the best rapper alive
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I would have finished it if it wasn't a rap. But I just couldn't...
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It's not rap, it's crappy spoken word poetry set to underground hiphop.
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What many of you atheists hate to admit, is the problem with religon is man. Not god.

But being most atheists are already selfish people, go hate yourself in a corner, off the internet while the rest of us try to do some good in the world.
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What many of you atheists hate to admit, is the problem with religon is man. Not god.
I think that's sort of the point of the video.
And considering that atheists don't believe in God, I'm sure they realize that the issue with is man, not "God." You know, since they believe that he's a man-made fictional character and all.
Get it? Cool observations though, dude. Very enlightening.
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But being most atheists are already selfish people, go hate yourself in a corner, off the internet while the rest of us try to do some good in the world.
You have a lot to learn.

Not an atheist, this just struck me as an extremely ignorant comment.

So, people who rely on logic and scientific fact to explain the natural world are selfish whilst "religious" people think that the millions of others whose beliefs don't align with their own are eternally doomed?

Interesting!
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What many of you atheists hate to admit, is the problem with religon is man. Not god.

But being most atheists are already selfish people, go hate yourself in a corner, off the internet while the rest of us try to do some good in the world.

Yeah, atheists have never done anything good for the world.
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What many of you atheists hate to admit, is the problem with religon is man. Not god.
What atheist ever says that? The problem with man is man. If you don't believe in a higher power how do you blame a higher power?


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But being most atheists are already selfish people, go hate yourself in a corner, off the internet while the rest of us try to do some good in the world.
Oh yeah? Well most Christians are bigoted closed minded loudmouths.

See what I did there? It's easy to make unfounded generalizations. I don't believe the above statement btw. Just thought I'd say that before someone gets their panties in a bunch.
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I can't stand that Jefferson guy.

the 'fat dude' with glass of wine has good points though.
for instance how can you say you like the church, bible, jesus and then go on to say you hate religion?
like the fat dude says it doesn't add up & seems like it's all marketing, albeit not too shrewd.
too much ambiguity and contradictions, sounds Jeffson sounds exactly like what he attempts to preach against.
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for instance how can you say you like the church, bible, jesus and then go on to say you hate religion?
Attending church can be a reassuring and positive environment, the Bible for the most part has a good message, and Jesus was a good dude.

Religion, on the other hand, has started countless wars, corrupted men, and reinforced discrimination against women, to name a few. Not to mention the general dickishness of many politicians in our country at the moment.

I would not consider them one in the same.
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idk if that's compelling enough.
I think you would have to specify the particular elements of religion that work or don't work.
as with most theological discussion you can't expect the terms to be clear and transparent for all.
Jefferson doesn't do such a great job of expressing that imo.
(like the fat dude said you might as well be marketing Coke over other soda).

religion, to me, sounds very general and in itself too vague to make an argument about either way.
Using anything as general as religion as a basis for an argument (without getting to the specifics) is no wiser than making generalizations imo.

I am also unsure why Jefferson choose to use the word 'religion' instead of 'Christianity' even though it seems he was referring to it.
He just sets himself up for further misunderstanding.
I admit I didn't like the guy at all (message or aesthetics) less than 10 secs into the vid.
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