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ranger240 · 12-06-2009, 11:09 AM

zilvia needs a new feature, this feature will be even more useful than rep was.

its like those + and - buttons on random sites. its purpose, enough - votes make stupid ass annoying comments fainter.

zilvias equivalent should be something that flat-out bans a poster from the thread in which hes received enough negative votes.

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why is this on topic?

because morons like Sleepy240 are simply playing devils advocate. its annoying to see an interesting thread topic littered with stupid ass HOA counterarguments by one poster

the comment of him being that moron in a lecture raising his hand to argue with professors is spot on, though this context is far more annoying.

sleepy240, you've added your opinion more than enough in this thread to convey what your 'perspective' is. you can shut up now.

there are two sides to this argument. pro-MOH veteran and pro-HOA.

a majority of the posters here are in favor of the veteran, but a disproprtionate amount of postings are from one person who isnt. this thread isnt about learning about the virtues of a HOA, its about right and wrong and whither or not a 90 year old war hero should have to put up with a bunch of overzealous go-getting neighbors and their mercenaries (lawyers) during his waning hours.

this guys fought enough battles, let the guy fly a freaking flag. the subjective opinion of some HOA assholes shouldnt matter

sleepy240, as previously recommended, go back to college and start arguing with professors again, your peers here on zilvia are sick of hearing your opinion, youve stated it, we get it. go read a book.

***S14DB*** · 12-06-2009, 11:28 AM

http://zilvia.net/f/loud-noises/2742...our-peril.html

Sleepy240 · 12-06-2009, 04:02 PM

@ Ranger240 - I haven't posted in this thread in nearly 3 days and now you feel the need to add your two cents. I really don't care what you think, just because my opinion might not be the "popular" one doesn't make it any less valid. And just so you know I went to college, graduated with a degree, so I don't really see a reason to go back there. You think I don't get tired of hearing other peoples arguments time and time again? Doesn't mean I'm going to get all upset about it, although obviously you have thin skin.

And as an FYI your + and - system is EXACTLY like rep. As a matter of fact its worse than rep, so you can count on that system never being implemented as it simply would be abused.

Agamemnon · 12-06-2009, 04:25 PM

The flagpole removal deadline was pushed back to Dec. 11. Looks like will have to wait a little longer to see what happens.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranger240

zilvias equivalent should be something that flat-out bans a poster from the thread in which hes received enough negative votes.

Are you saying that we should restrict someone's opinion if it is deemed unpopular? From what you are telling me that's it's OK to have an opinion, just as long it mirrors everyone elses.
Dangerous stuff.

ronmcdon · 12-08-2009, 12:49 AM

rules aside, it seems this has gotten a lot of controversy as of late.
it can't be good PR for the hoa overall.

will be interesting to see how this plays out.

SexPanda · 12-08-2009, 01:28 AM

Now, kinda 3rd party perspective time, since I have lived on or near military installations for over a fifth century now lol. Damn that makes it sound like im old.

I would feel honored to live next to any veteran, let alone a MOH recipient. I love my country and my flag, and I would not have any problem at all with a 90 year old man, who fought for our country against the evil of the third reich, having a 20 foot flag pole with the American flag waving every day. That kind of shit would be inspiring. It wouldn't dissuade me from purchasing a house next to his in a HOA, it would be incentive. Now, I don't really see why the HOA is getting its panties all in a bunch. A flag pole isnt something one would usually call an eye sore. I really wouldn't want to meet the person who says "I love the house, but the old guy's flag pole is just a bother."

fckillerbee · 12-08-2009, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SexPanda

Now, kinda 3rd party perspective time, since I have lived on or near military installations for over a fifth century now lol. Damn that makes it sound like im old.

I would feel honored to live next to any veteran, let alone a MOH recipient. I love my country and my flag, and I would not have any problem at all with a 90 year old man, who fought for our country against the evil of the third reich, having a 20 foot flag pole with the American flag waving every day. That kind of shit would be inspiring. It wouldn't dissuade me from purchasing a house next to his in a HOA, it would be incentive. Now, I don't really see why the HOA is getting its panties all in a bunch. A flag pole isnt something one would usually call an eye sore. I really wouldn't want to meet the person who says "I love the house, but the old guy's flag pole is just a bother."

or better yet...I dont want to buy this house...because the MOH guy that gave me all my freedoms in THIS country has THIS country's flag raised in his yard. I think I shall just buy a house in the middle east...where 118 people were recently killed in a car bomb. that's where I want to move.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34322986...ica/?gt1=43001

and getting banned for an opinion...haha half of zilvia users would be gone.

ronmcdon · 12-08-2009, 12:17 PM

well you know how politically correct things can be these days.
it's not unthinkable some would consider the flag (or flag pole) to be offensive.

SexPanda · 12-08-2009, 02:33 PM

I've been saying for years now political correction is going to ruin this country. Not so much on here, but just in general.

I try to use my freedoms to their fullest potential. And I love it.

Brian · 12-08-2009, 02:34 PM

^^^
you've got that right.

Everybody is being such a (insert real mean word here) these days.

Matej · 12-08-2009, 02:39 PM

Maybe the flag is huge and the entire neighborhood is in darkness because of it.

Gah....It's Too LOUD!!! · 12-08-2009, 02:50 PM

Sorry I'm late on this but I have just read all the info.....I mean why is it wrong for any American to display or show their loyalty to their country that they love and care about so much hell even fought for in this matter. Let the veteran raise his flag he has every damn right too!!!

Brian · 12-08-2009, 02:52 PM

the "problem" is that asshole HOA people want to have the FLAGPOLE taken out.

So, it's still a FUCK YOU to the guy, but they are trying to make it a classy fuck you.

Boooooooooo the HOA.

IMPORTIMAGE · 12-08-2009, 09:09 PM

**UPDATE**

He can raise the flag!!!

Lawsuit is being dropped.

Click here for story

Regards,
[email protected]

Brian · 12-08-2009, 09:14 PM

On another front today, U.S. Rep. Eric I. Cantor, R-7th. introduced a resolution in the House of Representatives resolving that any recipient of the Medal of Honor be permitted to "properly display" the flag from the recipient's property.

GOOD. I like this.

DreamN · 12-08-2009, 09:35 PM

That's great news.

SexPanda · 12-09-2009, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMPORTIMAGE

**UPDATE**

He can raise the flag!!!

Lawsuit is being dropped.

Click here for story

Regards,
[email protected]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

On another front today, U.S. Rep. Eric I. Cantor, R-7th. introduced a resolution in the House of Representatives resolving that any recipient of the Medal of Honor be permitted to "properly display" the flag from the recipient's property.

GOOD. I like this.

At least there are some dicks up on the hill who still have a little heart left.

ronmcdon · 12-09-2009, 10:08 AM

Heart my ass, lol.
More like being an opportunist, if anything.
Publicity like that wins votes when elections come.

Still, a good deed should be appreciated regardless of the agenda.
Laws are good for nothing if they aren't flexible enough to make worthy exceptions.
(such is the case).

kandyflip445 · 12-09-2009, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuy

This is completely outrageous.

I cannot even begin to fathom this level of stupidity and disrespect on the part of the Home Owners Association.

Fuck your Home Owners Association!

Exactly how I feel.

It's bullshit.

EDIT: The guy should ask his local base to have a flag ceremony at his house every week and say fuck you HOA.

fckillerbee · 12-09-2009, 11:44 AM

this gentleman gets the taste of victory once again!

Enna · 12-09-2009, 01:28 PM

Having lived in a few places with HOA's, they tend to be a bit rediculous. In one of mine you can only park on one side of the street. Understandable because they were somewhat narrow, but still a bit much.

In another one I couldn't have my car parked in my driveway for longer than 2 days. It either had to be in the garage or moved in that 2 day timeframe.

And another one... I couldn't work on my vehicle in my own garage, couldn't have a vehicle on my property that wasn't currently registered, and if the vehicle wasn't driven, it still had to be washed.

I don't like HOA, some are worse than others however. Although if I could find one with less strict rules, in a decent location, and I could actually choose the color of my house... I wouldn't mind.

cc4usmc · 12-09-2009, 06:03 PM

Wohoo! Glad to hear he won.

Genovese.Jr · 12-09-2009, 06:06 PM

he should keep it up people are such p.o.s these days just like throwing some ww2 veterans ashes and medals in to a dump he had 5 medals and tons of awards it happend in fl like a week ago

irax · 12-09-2009, 06:15 PM

the rest of the home owners in his area just are not patriotic. so much so they don't want to be reminded what it means to be patriotic. If I lived in the neighborhood I'd erect a flag pole just as big as his.

Gah....It's Too LOUD!!! · 12-09-2009, 08:45 PM

That is awsome news....hell yea!!!

SinGarage · 01-28-2010, 04:15 PM

Just got to this part of the thread and just.....WOW.

I don't live currently in an HOA community but I have a house in Las Vegas which does. They are some of the worst and inconsiderate people I have ever met. We have went through 4 different HOA companies since I've bought that house new in 2005. I definitely understand how an HOA is ran and operated. I have had many encounters with them with my lawyers for some of the most ludicrous things.

I am glad Mr. Barfoot has won. Just like some people here have said that people who does not live in an HOA does not understand. This in turn is the same as people who has not lived or know people in the military also do not understand the RESPECT this man deserves. I salute this man for fighting the HOA.

SlideWell · 01-29-2010, 11:34 AM

thats so effed! a man of 3 wars should have the right to have that flag he so proudly fought to defend.

theicecreamdan · 01-29-2010, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

On another front today, U.S. Rep. Eric I. Cantor, R-7th. introduced a resolution in the House of Representatives resolving that any recipient of the Medal of Honor be permitted to "properly display" the flag from the recipient's property.

GOOD. I like this.

Why should somebody have to get a medal of honor in order to "properly display" the flag?

KA24DESOneThree · 01-29-2010, 01:15 PM

Holy christ, this thread blows.

He fought in three wars? So what? He has a Medal of Honor? So what? It means nothing when dealing with the actual problem. Look at it rationally, and not like some uber-patriotic mental defective.

I'm going to side with the unpopulars and just say it: If he's an HOA member willingly, he must abide by their rulings. If they're useless shits, he has to deal with it. It doesn't matter if he's a baby-killing meth head or Jesus incarnate; he is bound by those rulings regardless of whether or not they make sense.

His service, and its validity, is not and never was in question nor scrutiny. The flag's value to him should not and cannot be taken into account.

I fly my flags tattered and upside down.

*DALAZ_68* · 01-29-2010, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

On another front today, U.S. Rep. Eric I. Cantor, R-7th. introduced a resolution in the House of Representatives resolving that any recipient of the Medal of Honor be permitted to "properly display" the flag from the recipient's property.

GOOD. I like this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SexPanda

At least there are some dicks up on the hill who still have a little heart left.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronmcdon

Heart my ass, lol.
More like being an opportunist, if anything.
Publicity like that wins votes when elections come.

have a little faith...

Quote:

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Holy christ, this thread blows.

He fought in three wars? So what? He has a Medal of Honor? So what? It means nothing when dealing with the actual problem. Look at it rationally, and not like some uber-patriotic mental defective.

I'm going to side with the unpopulars and just say it: If he's an HOA member willingly, he must abide by their rulings. If they're useless shits, he has to deal with it. It doesn't matter if he's a baby-killing meth head or Jesus incarnate; he is bound by those rulings regardless of whether or not they make sense.

No One cares, ur side lost...GTFO...lol

FUCK HOA...

congrats to the man Barfoot...

12-06-2009, 11:28 AM	#122
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12-06-2009, 04:02 PM	#123
Sleepy240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Reading, PA Age: 38 Posts: 780 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	@ Ranger240 - I haven't posted in this thread in nearly 3 days and now you feel the need to add your two cents. I really don't care what you think, just because my opinion might not be the "popular" one doesn't make it any less valid. And just so you know I went to college, graduated with a degree, so I don't really see a reason to go back there. You think I don't get tired of hearing other peoples arguments time and time again? Doesn't mean I'm going to get all upset about it, although obviously you have thin skin. And as an FYI your + and - system is EXACTLY like rep. As a matter of fact its worse than rep, so you can count on that system never being implemented as it simply would be abused. __________________ Been awhile...

12-08-2009, 01:28 AM	#126
SexPanda Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Where ever there is free beer Posts: 3,239 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Now, kinda 3rd party perspective time, since I have lived on or near military installations for over a fifth century now lol. Damn that makes it sound like im old. I would feel honored to live next to any veteran, let alone a MOH recipient. I love my country and my flag, and I would not have any problem at all with a 90 year old man, who fought for our country against the evil of the third reich, having a 20 foot flag pole with the American flag waving every day. That kind of shit would be inspiring. It wouldn't dissuade me from purchasing a house next to his in a HOA, it would be incentive. Now, I don't really see why the HOA is getting its panties all in a bunch. A flag pole isnt something one would usually call an eye sore. I really wouldn't want to meet the person who says "I love the house, but the old guy's flag pole is just a bother." __________________ BRAND NEW GReddy PRofec E-01 EBC for sale, Cheap!

12-08-2009, 02:33 PM	#129
SexPanda Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Where ever there is free beer Posts: 3,239 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've been saying for years now political correction is going to ruin this country. Not so much on here, but just in general. I try to use my freedoms to their fullest potential. And I love it. __________________ BRAND NEW GReddy PRofec E-01 EBC for sale, Cheap!

12-08-2009, 02:34 PM	#130
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12-08-2009, 12:49 AM	#125
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	rules aside, it seems this has gotten a lot of controversy as of late. it can't be good PR for the hoa overall. will be interesting to see how this plays out.

12-08-2009, 12:17 PM	#128
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	well you know how politically correct things can be these days. it's not unthinkable some would consider the flag (or flag pole) to be offensive.

12-08-2009, 02:39 PM	#131
Matej Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 9,423 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	Maybe the flag is huge and the entire neighborhood is in darkness because of it.

12-08-2009, 02:50 PM	#132
Gah....It's Too LOUD!!! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: TN Posts: 45 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sorry I'm late on this but I have just read all the info.....I mean why is it wrong for any American to display or show their loyalty to their country that they love and care about so much hell even fought for in this matter. Let the veteran raise his flag he has every damn right too!!!

12-08-2009, 02:52 PM	#133
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	the "problem" is that asshole HOA people want to have the FLAGPOLE taken out. So, it's still a FUCK YOU to the guy, but they are trying to make it a classy fuck you. Boooooooooo the HOA. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

12-08-2009, 09:09 PM	#134
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12-08-2009, 09:14 PM	#135
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	On another front today, U.S. Rep. Eric I. Cantor, R-7th. introduced a resolution in the House of Representatives resolving that any recipient of the Medal of Honor be permitted to "properly display" the flag from the recipient's property. GOOD. I like this. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

12-08-2009, 09:35 PM	#136
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12-09-2009, 10:08 AM	#138
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 89 Posts: 4,260 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Heart my ass, lol. More like being an opportunist, if anything. Publicity like that wins votes when elections come. Still, a good deed should be appreciated regardless of the agenda. Laws are good for nothing if they aren't flexible enough to make worthy exceptions. (such is the case).

12-09-2009, 11:44 AM	#140
fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Age: 39 Posts: 4,266 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	this gentleman gets the taste of victory once again!

12-09-2009, 06:06 PM	#143
Genovese.Jr BANNED Join Date: May 2009 Location: oc Posts: 296 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	he should keep it up people are such p.o.s these days just like throwing some ww2 veterans ashes and medals in to a dump he had 5 medals and tons of awards it happend in fl like a week ago

12-09-2009, 06:15 PM	#144
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 40 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	the rest of the home owners in his area just are not patriotic. so much so they don't want to be reminded what it means to be patriotic. If I lived in the neighborhood I'd erect a flag pole just as big as his. __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

12-09-2009, 08:45 PM	#145
Gah....It's Too LOUD!!! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: TN Posts: 45 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That is awsome news....hell yea!!!

01-28-2010, 04:15 PM	#146
SinGarage Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: 818 SoCal Age: 47 Posts: 674 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Just got to this part of the thread and just.....WOW. I don't live currently in an HOA community but I have a house in Las Vegas which does. They are some of the worst and inconsiderate people I have ever met. We have went through 4 different HOA companies since I've bought that house new in 2005. I definitely understand how an HOA is ran and operated. I have had many encounters with them with my lawyers for some of the most ludicrous things. I am glad Mr. Barfoot has won. Just like some people here have said that people who does not live in an HOA does not understand. This in turn is the same as people who has not lived or know people in the military also do not understand the RESPECT this man deserves. I salute this man for fighting the HOA.

01-29-2010, 11:34 AM	#147
SlideWell Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Age: 40 Posts: 1,591 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	thats so effed! a man of 3 wars should have the right to have that flag he so proudly fought to defend.

01-29-2010, 01:15 PM	#149
KA24DESOneThree Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SD County SoCal Age: 38 Posts: 2,554 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: KA24DESOneThree Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Holy christ, this thread blows. He fought in three wars? So what? He has a Medal of Honor? So what? It means nothing when dealing with the actual problem. Look at it rationally, and not like some uber-patriotic mental defective. I'm going to side with the unpopulars and just say it: If he's an HOA member willingly, he must abide by their rulings. If they're useless shits, he has to deal with it. It doesn't matter if he's a baby-killing meth head or Jesus incarnate; he is bound by those rulings regardless of whether or not they make sense. His service, and its validity, is not and never was in question nor scrutiny. The flag's value to him should not and cannot be taken into account. I fly my flags tattered and upside down.