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old school · 05-05-2010, 11:53 AM

Another cool fact you guys may not be aware of...rip apart a GTR engine...its essentially a 370Z motor re-engineered with Boost. Side by side, stripped down to block, heads, intake, etc....they are the same motor minus the plasma coating on the cylinder walls (GTR).

Corbic · 05-05-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by old school

Another cool fact you guys may not be aware of...rip apart a GTR engine...its essentially a 370Z motor re-engineered with Boost. Side by side, stripped down to block, heads, intake, etc....they are the same motor minus the plasma coating on the cylinder walls (GTR).

Yes, and a Volkswagen Rabbit's Inline 5 is half of a Lamborghini's V10!

irax · 05-05-2010, 03:08 PM

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Yes, and a Volkswagen Rabbit's Inline 5 is half of a Lamborghini's V10!

umm... what he's saying is for the most part true. what you are saying is bullshit
get out of this awesome build thread

old school · 05-05-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by irax

umm... what he's saying is for the most part true. what you are saying is bullshit
get out of this awesome build thread

Sharif at Forged broke down a new 370z when they came out and posted pics with difference noted from the vq35. Then I saw a barebone GTR block/heads at Hennessey...and their tech confirmed, they are the same....minus the GTR prep. When the GTRs get old, this will be a popular swap motor in Z33s n Z34s.

Omarius Maximus · 05-05-2010, 04:01 PM

Nice build; congrats. Personally, I would have just bought a 300zx. You can do that power on a stock block, just put larger turbos on the stock manifolds.

Corbic · 05-05-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by irax

umm... what he's saying is for the most part true. what you are saying is bullshit
get out of this awesome build thread

What I just said was just as true.

Obviously a manufacturer is going to share parts and try to utilize as much as it can from high-development cost parts like Heads, Blocks et al.

Did you know the 370Z also shares a chassis with the G37 which is also a Skyline in Japan!?! ZOMFG!

irax · 05-05-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

What I just said was just as true.

Obviously a manufacturer is going to share parts and try to utilize as much as it can from high-development cost parts like Heads, Blocks et al.

Did you know the 370Z also shares a chassis with the G37 which is also a Skyline in Japan!?! ZOMFG!

OMFG! I DIDN'T KNOW THAT!!! THATS FUCKING INCREDIBLE! WHO KNEW 1 MANUFACTURE WOULD MAKE MULTIPLE CARS OUT OF THE SAME PLATFORM!

ohh noo look at me.. i got egg on my face

there is a huge difference between an iron block 5cyl and aluminum v10

**mrmephistopheles** · 05-06-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

Yes, and a Volkswagen Rabbit's Inline 5 is half of a Lamborghini's V10!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corbic

What I just said was just as true.

Obviously a manufacturer is going to share parts and try to utilize as much as it can from high-development cost parts like Heads, Blocks et al.

Did you know the 370Z also shares a chassis with the G37 which is also a Skyline in Japan!?! ZOMFG!

jspaeth · 05-05-2010, 04:02 PM

I am just interested to know why the torque starts dropping off so early....

I really don't know much about these motors/setups, but what caught my eye was:

HOLY SHIT 500 ft-lbs of torque at 4000 RPM!!!!!!!!

But then why is is down to 400 ft-lbs already by 6500????

Is there anything that can be done to keep the torque curve from starting to fall as earlier as it currently is?

Nonetheless, 400 ft-lbs at the wheels at 6500 RPM is still insane!!!!!!!!!

old school · 05-06-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Flicktitty

Nice job, car looks pretty good. i agree could use a "little" something. but the power more then makes up for it.

do you have any track times/videos of the car back when it was on bolt-on's and nitrous?

I do somewhere, but I have no idea what I did with the thumb drive. Its been 4 years. lol

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Originally Posted by Corbic

What I just said was just as true.

Obviously a manufacturer is going to share parts and try to utilize as much as it can from high-development cost parts like Heads, Blocks et al.

Did you know the 370Z also shares a chassis with the G37 which is also a Skyline in Japan!?! ZOMFG!

Almost. Wheel base is longer in the G. Always has been. They hold the same engine/tranny (2wd) as the G.

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I am just interested to know why the torque starts dropping off so early....

I really don't know much about these motors/setups, but what caught my eye was:

HOLY SHIT 500 ft-lbs of torque at 4000 RPM!!!!!!!!

But then why is is down to 400 ft-lbs already by 6500????

Is there anything that can be done to keep the torque curve from starting to fall as earlier as it currently is?

Nonetheless, 400 ft-lbs at the wheels at 6500 RPM is still insane!!!!!!!!!

the curve is dictated by the turbos. If I want the torque to keep rising, I will need bigger turbos. These turbos are good to 650-700 just on boost. Bigger turbos also means the power band will shift further down the line...so you wait longer for boost. I get full boost at 2700rpms...I don't even feel lag. ANd I use this car for road racing / time attack more than anything else...so I need that midrange. Never feels like the torque drops off...cuz hp keeps on coming.

Flicktitty · 05-05-2010, 04:11 PM

Nice job, car looks pretty good. i agree could use a "little" something. but the power more then makes up for it.

do you have any track times/videos of the car back when it was on bolt-on's and nitrous?

boobs13 · 05-06-2010, 03:05 PM

nice work and really clean z

old school · 05-06-2010, 03:15 PM

puahahaha @ mrmephistopheles

sincity_sil80 · 05-06-2010, 11:06 PM

nice car.. its good to see a z. a little change of pace.

HemiCharger · 05-06-2010, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sincity_sil80

nice car.. its good to see a z. a little change of pace.

true cause this is zilvia home to

200 = 300-360 hp 240s
100 = 400 hp 240s
50 = 500 hp 240s

90 percent with sr20s in them. I wonder if Nissan knows we exist?

That is a quality ride and congrats on only driving like 800 miles a year. Hell I have put 60,000 miles on my sr in the 2 years since I have owned it. Knock on wood it has not blown up yet.

old school · 05-07-2010, 02:10 AM

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That is a quality ride and congrats on only driving like 800 miles a year. Hell I have put 60,000 miles on my sr in the 2 years since I have owned it. Knock on wood it has not blown up yet.

Thanks...the advantages of having more than one car.

If you want to see my timeslips...go to the track. I haven't posted one online in years...for the same reasons I choose to remain stock-looking. Didn't think I'd have to spell it out, but there you go. I don't post current dynos either. Only past dynos

HemiCharger · 05-07-2010, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by old school

Thanks...the advantages of having more than one car.

If you want to see my timeslips...go to the track. I haven't posted one online in years...for the same reasons I choose to remain stock-looking. Didn't think I'd have to spell it out, but there you go. I don't post current dynos either. Only past dynos

I have 2 cars as well but live in Arkansas and travel a lot due to my job. Use to have that Hemi Charger in my sig, now I own an A4 Audi 2.0 t

old school · 05-07-2010, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiCharger

I have 2 cars as well but live in Arkansas and travel a lot due to my job. Use to have that Hemi Charger in my sig, now I own an A4 Audi 2.0 t

had a 06 A4 2.0T..traded it for a 08 BMW 328i. I usually drive my suburban everywhere though. 161k miles on the big slab and counting. I love driving something I don't really dont care about...shopping carts hit the burb..."oh well". lol.

Corbic · 05-07-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiCharger

I have 2 cars as well but live in Arkansas and travel a lot due to my job. Use to have that Hemi Charger in my sig, now I own an A4 Audi 2.0 t

Pics or STFU. I suspect you are just a 16 y/o troll from most of your posts.

iamtheyi · 05-07-2010, 02:30 PM

+1 for a super nice Z :]. read the thread not thinking it was anything but was mad impressed by the work you did

Scott@TheNismoShop · 05-07-2010, 03:56 PM

This is an amazing car with just my style! Keep us posted and great work!

*kognition* · 07-02-2010, 09:19 AM

Who makes the Ti valve springs?

shinobis13hb · 05-07-2010, 05:11 PM

hemi, lets see pic of your build ;0

HemiCharger · 05-07-2010, 06:50 PM

back on topic

z2roll4life7 · 05-07-2010, 07:04 PM

Dude i love the sleeper status on the 350z so sick and Hemicharger for all you boast about and trying to think you have anyidea about 240s is beyond me
also your car isnt really as special as you make it out to be
400hp i call b/s but im half impressed it
aint all riced out thank you and have a nice day

old school · 05-08-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by iamtheyi

+1 for a super nice Z :]. read the thread not thinking it was anything but was mad impressed by the work you did

Thank you sir.

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Originally Posted by Scott@TheNismoShop

This is an amazing car with just my style! Keep us posted and great work!

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Originally Posted by z2roll4life7

Dude i love the sleeper status on the 350z so sick and Hemicharger for all you boast about and trying to think you have anyidea about 240s is beyond me
also your car isnt really as special as you make it out to be
400hp i call b/s but im half impressed it
aint all riced out thank you and have a nice day

Thanks man...I piss off alot of ppl off that don't expect the Z to get out of its own way.

Hemi - I haz 2 turbos that size

My buddy RobertK has those two turbos from the JWT 350Z kit (GT28s). And he's still 100+ whp behind me

Ran a RB S14 with a 42R not too long ago...pissed him off too. Beautiful red one...old guy driving (well, older than me...Im 31). late 50s early 60s. Didn't sound like he could spool that thing tho.

HemiCharger · 05-09-2010, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by old school

Hemi - I haz 2 turbos that size

and an extra 600 - 1000 lbs too. Now you are gonna shoot it full of nitrous -- NICE until it blows up.

the dude was 50 for real? You would think he would have been happier with a corvette or something? It is funny how old school muscle guys are discovering how fast the Nissan 240s can be made. That is my second s14 240 and I have owned it for 5 years and probably will for a lot longer. The only thing that has stopped me from buying a newer 370z is the promise of a new Silvia in a year or two? at least hope that happens. Oh and I do not get mad when I lose races -- I would probably be like wow I found a car faster than me.

Tom25666 · 05-08-2010, 11:25 PM

badass Z. 530hp= baller status

old school · 05-09-2010, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom25666

badass Z. 530whp= baller status

--fixed

I'll post the last dyno as soon I retune with nitrous.

old school · 05-09-2010, 10:36 AM

^I've sprayed nitrous on every car that I've ever modded. Nothing can touch the instant torque it gives the car. Not to mention I've had alot less trouble with nitrous than boost. By a loooong shot. Nitrous was on this car waay before boost was too. I love the stuff.

05-05-2010, 04:02 PM	#9
jspaeth Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Philadelphia suburbs Age: 39 Posts: 2,347 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: jspaeth Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I am just interested to know why the torque starts dropping off so early.... I really don't know much about these motors/setups, but what caught my eye was: HOLY SHIT 500 ft-lbs of torque at 4000 RPM!!!!!!!! But then why is is down to 400 ft-lbs already by 6500???? Is there anything that can be done to keep the torque curve from starting to fall as earlier as it currently is? Nonetheless, 400 ft-lbs at the wheels at 6500 RPM is still insane!!!!!!!!! __________________ Daily driven

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Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 37 Posts: 3,685 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Nice job, car looks pretty good. i agree could use a "little" something. but the power more then makes up for it. do you have any track times/videos of the car back when it was on bolt-on's and nitrous? __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo

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sincity_sil80 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: las vegas Age: 34 Posts: 440 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	nice car.. its good to see a z. a little change of pace. __________________ 20 till 3:00 = ღ

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Scott@TheNismoShop Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: West Covina, Ca. Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wow! This is an amazing car with just my style! Keep us posted and great work!

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HemiCharger Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: midwest Age: 48 Posts: 216 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	back on topic Last edited by HemiCharger; 05-11-2010 at 06:09 PM.. Reason: change

05-05-2010, 11:53 AM	#1
old school Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tx Age: 45 Posts: 73 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Another cool fact you guys may not be aware of...rip apart a GTR engine...its essentially a 370Z motor re-engineered with Boost. Side by side, stripped down to block, heads, intake, etc....they are the same motor minus the plasma coating on the cylinder walls (GTR).

05-05-2010, 04:01 PM	#5
Omarius Maximus Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 564 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nice build; congrats. Personally, I would have just bought a 300zx. You can do that power on a stock block, just put larger turbos on the stock manifolds.

05-06-2010, 03:15 PM	#13
old school Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tx Age: 45 Posts: 73 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	puahahaha @ mrmephistopheles

05-07-2010, 02:30 PM	#20
iamtheyi Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brea, CA Age: 32 Posts: 2,252 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	+1 for a super nice Z :]. read the thread not thinking it was anything but was mad impressed by the work you did

07-02-2010, 09:19 AM	#22
kognition Premium Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Santee California Posts: 2,107 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Who makes the Ti valve springs?

05-07-2010, 05:11 PM	#23
shinobis13hb Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: la crescenta Age: 34 Posts: 982 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	hemi, lets see pic of your build ;0

05-07-2010, 07:04 PM	#25
z2roll4life7 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: charlotte Age: 36 Posts: 213 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Dude i love the sleeper status on the 350z so sick and Hemicharger for all you boast about and trying to think you have anyidea about 240s is beyond me also your car isnt really as special as you make it out to be 400hp i call b/s but im half impressed it aint all riced out thank you and have a nice day

05-09-2010, 10:36 AM	#30
old school Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tx Age: 45 Posts: 73 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^I've sprayed nitrous on every car that I've ever modded. Nothing can touch the instant torque it gives the car. Not to mention I've had alot less trouble with nitrous than boost. By a loooong shot. Nitrous was on this car waay before boost was too. I love the stuff.