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Mharsh · 10-19-2014, 02:32 PM

Hey guys

I am new to the states and i don't really know all models and makes of cars that good for drifting..
i know the Silvia which is the 240sx if i'm not mistaken and the Rx7.

Any way my question is what other cars (sedan or 2 door) that don't cost money to tune and simple to drift..
i have drift before but was in long while so i wanna start easy this time because my budget is limited.

Thanks in advance.

angel mkiv · 10-19-2014, 08:07 PM

Dam you really need to do a lot of research. And if you have drifted before how do you not have a idea on where to start? The obious answer will be anything that's rwd that you can afford.

Mharsh · 10-19-2014, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angel mkiv

Dam you really need to do a lot of research. And if you have drifted before how do you not have a idea on where to start? The obious answer will be anything that's rwd that you can afford.

I am from totally different country where the names of cars are different and mostly drifting cars are different in my country.. i have drifted but with SUV car and another type of drifting.. it's just i am not familiar with all cars that good for drifting.

anyway Thanks man.

simmode1 · 10-19-2014, 09:21 PM

For inexpensive options besides the 240sx, I'd say look into:
Miata
E36 328i/M3
IS300

There are MANY options. It all really depends on your budget. How much are you trying to spend?

Mharsh · 10-19-2014, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simmode1

For inexpensive options besides the 240sx, I'd say look into:
Miata
E36 328i/M3
IS300

There are MANY options. It all really depends on your budget. How much are you trying to spend?

These sound good.

Well!! now i am concerned about more things..
1- which cars known that they don't last long time without mechanical or electrical issues?
2- how to determine the good price of the car based on its condition?

i have had a brief look at the prices of many cars such as:
Rx7
240sx hatchback and coupe
and now
Miata
E36 328i/M3
IS300

i see the prices between 2000$ to 8000 or more.

my budget for buying the car itself could reach 2000$ or 3000$ maybe more if things went good.. and i will be able to spend 200$ to 300$ monthly for tuning and maintenance if needed.

Thanks man

Clutch Dog · 10-19-2014, 10:53 PM

you guys are missing out on the cheapest drift missles out there..

any generation ford mustang from 95 to 04, GT

they either will have the 4.6 or the 5.0 both feature strong transmissions, an a ford 8.8 rear end which is easy to break into and add clutch plates to lock up, the car itself is cheap to maintan as everything ford that era had the same motor and parts.

the only downside is admiting to your jdm guys you drift a mustang.

but they are dirt cheap and you can drift a stock one easily. v8 power and torque.

Mharsh · 10-19-2014, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clutch Dog

you guys are missing out on the cheapest drift missles out there..

any generation ford mustang from 95 to 04, GT

they either will have the 4.6 or the 5.0 both feature strong transmissions, an a ford 8.8 rear end which is easy to break into and add clutch plates to lock up, the car itself is cheap to maintan as everything ford that era had the same motor and parts.

the only downside is admiting to your jdm guys you drift a mustang.

but they are dirt cheap and you can drift a stock one easily. v8 power and torque.

i thought about the mustang too as long as it's popular in my country,
but because of the HOT weather there, V8 mustangs don't last much like the V6 and V4.
Mostly we use V6 or V4 because it last longer.. and that's why i am concerned about how is it in the U.S.

Thanks Bro.

Clutch Dog · 10-19-2014, 11:15 PM

"dont last" it sounds like improper cooling, our v8's are some of the most reliable on the road , but its all about set up and being proper.

Clutch Dog · 10-19-2014, 11:16 PM

and what car has v4's?

Mharsh · 10-19-2014, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clutch Dog

"dont last" it sounds like improper cooling, our v8's are some of the most reliable on the road , but its all about set up and being proper.

it's just different weather, roads, type of drift.. and because the V6 and V4 are cheaper ther and last longer without mechanical or electrical issues.

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Originally Posted by Clutch Dog

and what car has v4's?

V4 such as

ick up datsun, nissan 200l, 260zx, 240zx, GTR (2&4 door).. etc

angel mkiv · 10-20-2014, 01:45 AM

V4 such as

ick up datsun, nissan 200l, 260zx, 240zx, GTR (2&4 door).. etc[/QUOTE]

I think you mean incline 4 cylinder motor. Not a v4 which has a "V" shape in its design.and which country are you from? Because one thing to consider is that most imports here are wayyyyy less powerful then what you would get in Japan. For example a Silvia over there has the sr20 or ca18 and here the 240sx has a ka24e or ka24de motor which stock vs. stock not a comparison.

Mharsh · 10-20-2014, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angel mkiv

V4 such as

ick up datsun, nissan 200l, 260zx, 240zx, GTR (2&4 door).. etc

I think you mean incline 4 cylinder motor. Not a v4 which has a "V" shape in its design.and which country are you from? Because one thing to consider is that most imports here are wayyyyy less powerful then what you would get in Japan. For example a Silvia over there has the sr20 or ca18 and here the 240sx has a ka24e or ka24de motor which stock vs. stock not a comparison.[/QUOTE]

yeah i meant the 4 cylinder, excuse me. and i am from Saudi Arabia but live in the states currently and that is why i am concerned.

HORShi · 10-20-2014, 08:03 AM

@Mharsh

Like Angel said, most of the cars over here is really underpowered compared to the rest of the world. You would be able to find a 240sx for your price, but over here in the states, typically that will come with a lot of problems because people tend to hack up and abuse these cars heavily here. Do you have knowledge of working on cars? Because what it sounds like, you need something that's (assuming from reading your posts)

1) Easy to repair/maintenance (if you have basic mechanic knowledge or $$$ to spend your fine)
2) Cheap to replace parts
3) Easy to find parts

240sx arguably is the favorable car in that category, BUT I will like to add, unlike the rest of the world, our domestic cars have a strong support system, you can get Mustang V8s/V6s, Chevy LS V8s parts anywhere here. No matter where you are. There is a lot of things to consider bub.

Also, I seen you from Saudi Arabia, have you ever participated in the tafheet (I believe that is the English term for it) drifting that goes on over there?

Mharsh · 10-21-2014, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORShi

@Mharsh

Do you have knowledge of working on cars? Because what it sounds like, you need something that's (assuming from reading your posts)

1) Easy to repair/maintenance (if you have basic mechanic knowledge or $$$ to spend your fine)
2) Cheap to replace parts
3) Easy to find parts

exactly, i have basic knowledge about repair,maintenance and tune and i would be able to learn more and fast. it's just for now, i won't have the time and place to work on the car by myself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORShi

@Mharsh

240sx arguably is the favorable car in that category, BUT I will like to add, unlike the rest of the world, our domestic cars have a strong support system, you can get Mustang V8s/V6s, Chevy LS V8s parts anywhere here. No matter where you are. There is a lot of things to consider bub.

Is it popular that 8 cylinder cars have more mechanical and electrical issues, i mean more then the 4 and 6 cylinder?

Quote:

Originally Posted by HORShi

@Mharsh

Also, I seen you from Saudi Arabia, have you ever participated in the tafheet (I believe that is the English term for it) drifting that goes on over there?

yeah i have participated in every type of drift there

***S14DB*** · 10-21-2014, 08:26 AM

What cars are popular there for drifting?

Mharsh · 10-30-2014, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

What cars are popular there for drifting?

Many such charger, challenger, mustang, GTR, ZX260 ZX240 and ZX 300, And Datsun 200L caprice..
And also SUV's such Nissan patrol and Toyota land cruiser and hilux Which is the Toyota tacoma in the states.
And for another type of drifting.. Camry, maxima, sonata and caprice too.

DrtyRat · 10-30-2014, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mharsh

Many such charger, challenger, mustang, GTR, ZX260 ZX240 and ZX 300, And Datsun 200L caprice..
And also SUV's such Nissan patrol and Toyota land cruiser and hilux Which is the Toyota tacoma in the states.
And for another type of drifting.. Camry, maxima, sonata and caprice too.

Trolllllllllolololol!!!!

simmode1 · 10-30-2014, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DrtyRat

Trolllllllllolololol!!!!

He's not trolling. They just drive any & everything over there like a bunch of asshats & call it drifting.

The fuckery they do in Saudi Arabia would not be recognized as drifting by anyone with a brain.

Mharsh · 10-30-2014, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simmode1

He's not trolling. They just drive any & everything over there like a bunch of asshats & call it drifting.

The fuckery they do in Saudi Arabia would not be recognized as drifting by anyone with a brain.

I admit that.. It's just a death tool.. BTW it is illegal.. That's why i haven't been doing it for more than 10 years..

Anyway that's not my point.. I mean that i have drifted before and i have the basics and the ability to drift. And if it's not enough.. I have the ability to improve fastly.

BTW you might want to take a look here.. That's more interesting (it's all legal) in UAE and Qatar.. Because we don't have a an official and open track to drift in Saudi Arabia..
http://youtu.be/8Gx5LAMYuks
http://youtu.be/wGJB5gOxWFI
http://youtu.be/4MOCE-gzHm0
All 5th gear drifting

simmode1 · 10-30-2014, 10:27 PM

A death tool? Dear god... No, man. Only if you're doing it catastrophically WRONG.

Ok MHarsh... None of what you posted is drifting. None of it. Before acquiring a car, it would be best to completely forget EVERYTHING you think you know about drifting.

Heres a good example of actual drifting the way it should be done:

Mharsh · 10-30-2014, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simmode1

Ok MHarsh... None of what you posted is drifting. None of it. Before acquiring a car, it would be best to completely forget EVERYTHING you think you know about drifting.

Heres a good example of actual drifting the way it should be done:

I knew you'r gonna to say that.
Basically, both have similar drifting tool.. Clutch, pedals, and handbreak except the once i posted are without handbreak.
However, the standards are different.
I am talking about the way you posted, which i want to practice, and i have tried it once, was Awesome.

Mharsh · 10-30-2014, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simmode1

A death tool? Dear god... No, man. Only if you're doing it catastrophically WRONG.

Oh no man i am talkin about the once you posted which in Saudi Arabia..
The other one you posted are fine.

simmode1 · 10-31-2014, 08:14 AM

Ok, in that case, just go find a cheap rear wheel drive sports car with manual transmission & search for a track day in your area, preferably one that has instructors to teach you drifting fundamentals. Keep your drifting on the track & not the streets and you'll be fine.

10-19-2014, 02:32 PM	#1
Mharsh Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Spokane, WA Age: 35 Posts: 11 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Inquiry Hey guys I am new to the states and i don't really know all models and makes of cars that good for drifting.. i know the Silvia which is the 240sx if i'm not mistaken and the Rx7. Any way my question is what other cars (sedan or 2 door) that don't cost money to tune and simple to drift.. i have drift before but was in long while so i wanna start easy this time because my budget is limited. Thanks in advance.

10-19-2014, 08:07 PM	#2
angel mkiv Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Seattle, wa Posts: 727 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Dam you really need to do a lot of research. And if you have drifted before how do you not have a idea on where to start? The obious answer will be anything that's rwd that you can afford. __________________ Instagram username:angelmkiv

10-19-2014, 09:21 PM	#4
simmode1 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 5,526 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	For inexpensive options besides the 240sx, I'd say look into: Miata E36 328i/M3 IS300 There are MANY options. It all really depends on your budget. How much are you trying to spend? __________________ "Simplicity is the key to brilliance." - Bruce Lee

10-19-2014, 10:53 PM	#6
Clutch Dog Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2010 Location: PNW Posts: 346 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	you guys are missing out on the cheapest drift missles out there.. any generation ford mustang from 95 to 04, GT they either will have the 4.6 or the 5.0 both feature strong transmissions, an a ford 8.8 rear end which is easy to break into and add clutch plates to lock up, the car itself is cheap to maintan as everything ford that era had the same motor and parts. the only downside is admiting to your jdm guys you drift a mustang. but they are dirt cheap and you can drift a stock one easily. v8 power and torque. __________________ Mad Moody Science LLC In house is the best way.

10-19-2014, 11:15 PM	#8
Clutch Dog Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2010 Location: PNW Posts: 346 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	"dont last" it sounds like improper cooling, our v8's are some of the most reliable on the road , but its all about set up and being proper. __________________ Mad Moody Science LLC In house is the best way.

10-19-2014, 11:16 PM	#9
Clutch Dog Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2010 Location: PNW Posts: 346 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	and what car has v4's? __________________ Mad Moody Science LLC In house is the best way.

10-20-2014, 01:45 AM	#11
angel mkiv Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Seattle, wa Posts: 727 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	V4 such asick up datsun, nissan 200l, 260zx, 240zx, GTR (2&4 door).. etc[/QUOTE] I think you mean incline 4 cylinder motor. Not a v4 which has a "V" shape in its design.and which country are you from? Because one thing to consider is that most imports here are wayyyyy less powerful then what you would get in Japan. For example a Silvia over there has the sr20 or ca18 and here the 240sx has a ka24e or ka24de motor which stock vs. stock not a comparison. __________________ Instagram username:angelmkiv

10-20-2014, 08:03 AM	#13
HORShi Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Wicked City 邪悪な街 Posts: 294 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	@Mharsh Like Angel said, most of the cars over here is really underpowered compared to the rest of the world. You would be able to find a 240sx for your price, but over here in the states, typically that will come with a lot of problems because people tend to hack up and abuse these cars heavily here. Do you have knowledge of working on cars? Because what it sounds like, you need something that's (assuming from reading your posts) 1) Easy to repair/maintenance (if you have basic mechanic knowledge or $$$ to spend your fine) 2) Cheap to replace parts 3) Easy to find parts 240sx arguably is the favorable car in that category, BUT I will like to add, unlike the rest of the world, our domestic cars have a strong support system, you can get Mustang V8s/V6s, Chevy LS V8s parts anywhere here. No matter where you are. There is a lot of things to consider bub. Also, I seen you from Saudi Arabia, have you ever participated in the tafheet (I believe that is the English term for it) drifting that goes on over there? __________________ *http://underworld-jp.com*

10-21-2014, 08:26 AM	#15
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	What cars are popular there for drifting? __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

10-30-2014, 10:27 PM	#20
simmode1 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 5,526 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A death tool? Dear god... No, man. Only if you're doing it catastrophically WRONG. Ok MHarsh... None of what you posted is drifting. None of it. Before acquiring a car, it would be best to completely forget EVERYTHING you think you know about drifting. Heres a good example of actual drifting the way it should be done: __________________ "Simplicity is the key to brilliance." - Bruce Lee

10-31-2014, 08:14 AM	#23
simmode1 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 5,526 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ok, in that case, just go find a cheap rear wheel drive sports car with manual transmission & search for a track day in your area, preferably one that has instructors to teach you drifting fundamentals. Keep your drifting on the track & not the streets and you'll be fine. __________________ "Simplicity is the key to brilliance." - Bruce Lee