7mgte in a s13??!? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

skizsystem · 04-25-2011, 11:14 PM

i know theres alot of people who hate on the 7mgte but i happen to have a whole swap from my old supra (rip ) and im curious to know if its been done before? i know there are kits sold for easy swaps for 1js and all that but i highly doubt theres anything for a 7mgte. to me this would be an interesting swap and i can still have my old love with me in a sense. but realy my main question is to those who do fab work and more custom stuff
1. what would i do for tranny and engine mounts
2. what kind of fabrication will be needed?
3. is it worth it

and just for good reference its a rebuilt 7m with a pretty fresh turbo and hks headgasket. mofo had some nice pull to it at 12 lbs

thanks, and dont hate on my thread!

IMPORTIMAGE · 04-25-2011, 11:17 PM

dont waste your time, go 1jz

skizsystem · 04-25-2011, 11:27 PM

point is that i already have the whole motor, trans, ecu , and wiring harness. dont really have money for a 1jz swap. trying to be unique here but in my eyes if it can pull off some sick long drifts and smash on almost anyone i took on in my 3800 lbs supra, then i can only imagine how it would feel in the s13.

Hailtothesilvia · 04-25-2011, 11:43 PM

sell it. I think you're better off going SR or KA-T

skizsystem · 04-25-2011, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hailtothesilvia

sell it. I think you're better off going SR or KA-T

id rather just drop it in another supra. or make it a sleeper in a cressida. i just dont wanna get rid of it cause its all i have from my supra and i love that thing. i think its a problem i should probably seek professional help....

s14tan · 04-26-2011, 12:06 AM

Keep a stockpile of headgaskets.

ChicagoS14 · 04-26-2011, 12:28 AM

7MGTES are garbage in a Supra already, taking time and effort to put one into a 240SX is a FAIL waiting to happen. Dont waste your time and just get a real engine. The 7M is not only a 200 hp engine that is lazy as hell, it barely makes more power then a KA with 7 psi on a junkyard turbo setup. On top of that its not only complicated and unreliable its an old ass engine.

!Zar! · 04-26-2011, 12:30 AM

Why the fuck would anyone want a 7mgte? That engine sucks hardcore.

There was an idiot here in Norcal that swapped a 7mgte into a FD.

hassanbakar123 · 04-26-2011, 12:50 AM

there was a post a while back it was a green s14 with a 350z front end and a 7mgte swap and i think he used the r-154 tranny.....
i wounld waste my money or time with that swap.....part out the car....

Darth & Vader · 04-26-2011, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by s14tan

Keep a stockpile of headgaskets.

Amen to that!

Quote:

Originally Posted by hassanbakar123

there was a post a while back it was a green s14 with a 350z front end and a 7mgte swap and i think he used the r-154 tranny.....
i wounld waste my money or time with that swap.....part out the car....

LOLOLOL! I saw that car also, funniest looking 240.

frftw · 04-26-2011, 01:50 AM

idk if somone had the fab skills nd the chassis nd motor lying round that would be kinda cool to see but paying other ppl to make mounts nd wiring ect it would just be uneconomical. tho it would be cool to see you would probably be better off with some other motor. also think of it this way: less weight over the front you handle better! those strait sixes hang over the front liek mofos

towlie · 04-26-2011, 02:19 AM

7m? Why the hell would you swap that motor?

Shit, you'd be better off with a 5m

zurud · 04-26-2011, 04:09 AM

The 7m tranny and engine mount is the same with 1JZ. So any kit for jz swap for s chassis will be the same. I think you should do it instead of spending another 2k for 1jz. The engine is already been rebuilt with hks headgasket. If you don't want the 7m, I'll take it of your hand.

skizsystem · 04-26-2011, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frftw

idk if somone had the fab skills nd the chassis nd motor lying round that would be kinda cool to see but paying other ppl to make mounts nd wiring ect it would just be uneconomical. tho it would be cool to see you would probably be better off with some other motor. also think of it this way: less weight over the front you handle better! those strait sixes hang over the front liek mofos

well i have a couple of buddies that are willing to help me out with the custom stuff they pretty much just told me find out what you need

camaro379ss · 04-26-2011, 07:16 PM

It would be one of those things that would be interesting to see once....but still not worth it.

redline racer510 · 04-26-2011, 07:19 PM

IMHO the 7m isn't an interesting swap in terms of being unique, maybe in terms of blowing up but not unique. Even with the hks HG they aren't that great( high mileage, old technology, headache to work on, there's a good reason you don't see too many 240 owners swap them into their S-chassis). Just sell it and save yourself the headache, please I don't even want to see a 7m swap thread.

User Name: · 04-26-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by zurud

The 7m tranny and engine mount is the same with 1JZ. So any kit for jz swap for s chassis will be the same. I think you should do it instead of spending another 2k for 1jz. The engine is already been rebuilt with hks headgasket. If you don't want the 7m, I'll take it of your hand.

if this is correct i say do it just because everyone doesnt want you to.

if you think the motor is still reliable enough to take a beating, and you're that attached to it, which i think you are, then go for it.

BUFFRATS13 · 04-26-2011, 07:54 PM

put whatever engine in whatever chassis you would like and stop seeking the approval of the drift community. theres pros and cons to every swap as well as haters and purest who are just gonna flame you all day for asking this question. put your engine in and if at the end of the day you regret it... then well you live and you learn... or rock your 7m at events, tear some shit up and earn some respect... simple

skizsystem · 04-26-2011, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BUFFRATS13

put whatever engine in whatever chassis you would like and stop seeking the approval of the drift community. theres pros and cons to every swap as well as haters and purest who are just gonna flame you all day for asking this question. put your engine in and if at the end of the day you regret it... then well you live and you learn... or rock your 7m at events, tear some shit up and earn some respect... simple

im not askin for anyones approval i just wanted to know what would be needed. i figured there would be plenty of assholes who would shit on the 7m but more then likely none of them have ever had one or researched there potential . im used to the hating cause i heard it all day when i had the supra. and im not worried about high mileage or unreliability. when my supras rear end was smashed in the chassishad about 85000 and the FULLY rebuilt motor had less then 20000. but now that i know i can use 1j mounts i might just go for it. under rated motor in my eyes.

hellion240sx · 04-26-2011, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hassanbakar123

there was a post a while back it was a green s14 with a 350z front end and a 7mgte swap and i think he used the r-154 tranny.....
i wounld waste my money or time with that swap.....part out the car....

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c-los13 · 04-26-2011, 09:22 PM

dont these engine come on 92 cressidas too??
if they do, i dont think the 1j motor brackets will work since they sell mounts to fit 1j's in cressidas.
im just saying

on the other hand....whatever rocks your world man....if thats what you want...do it!!!
it wont be the best swap for your 240sx and you know that, but its worth the try i guess.

c-los13 · 04-26-2011, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buffrats13

put whatever engine in whatever chassis you would like and stop seeking the approval of the drift community. Theres pros and cons to every swap as well as haters and purest who are just gonna flame you all day for asking this question. Put your engine in and if at the end of the day you regret it... Then well you live and you learn... Or rock your 7m at events, tear some shit up and earn some respect... Simple

your the man!!!! Haha

statickx991 · 04-26-2011, 09:26 PM

honestly very diff swap in my opinion. i agree with clos13, show people whats up and rock it. built it show some people what it can do. i say go for it. you got it so do it.

revcyanide · 04-26-2011, 09:30 PM

vacumn lines. fuck that

murffy · 04-26-2011, 10:52 PM

Just do it man, if you could rip it up on the bigass supra, it should feel like pretty nice on a 13

!Zar! · 04-26-2011, 11:01 PM

Yeah, do it.

I dare you.

BE DIFFERENT

Epic.Movement · 04-27-2011, 12:28 AM

YouTube - Nissan S13 7mgte SWAP

zurud · 04-27-2011, 03:11 AM

You have to use cressida oil pan and pickup because it's front sump.

GeneralTso · 04-27-2011, 09:12 AM

if you think you're capable of wiring it up, go for it. just get a 1jz mount kit, and go at it.
can't be too much different.

310R · 04-27-2011, 05:32 PM

Don't listen to them,swap the engine if you want.We are currently finishing a build on one of these motors in a mk3 supra.It should make about 650hp on low boost and close to 800 on high boost.This motor has plenty of potential,headgasket problems were a torque and finish issue.Fix that and you have a bullet proof motor.We thought about 1jz but getting parts local or anywhere is tuff for those motors.You may have to fab mounts,but that can be done easily.Goodluck with the swap.

04-25-2011, 11:14 PM	#1
skizsystem Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rialto Age: 32 Posts: 393 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	7mgte in a s13??!? i know theres alot of people who hate on the 7mgte but i happen to have a whole swap from my old supra (rip ) and im curious to know if its been done before? i know there are kits sold for easy swaps for 1js and all that but i highly doubt theres anything for a 7mgte. to me this would be an interesting swap and i can still have my old love with me in a sense. but realy my main question is to those who do fab work and more custom stuff 1. what would i do for tranny and engine mounts 2. what kind of fabrication will be needed? 3. is it worth it and just for good reference its a rebuilt 7m with a pretty fresh turbo and hks headgasket. mofo had some nice pull to it at 12 lbs thanks, and dont hate on my thread!

04-25-2011, 11:17 PM	#2
IMPORTIMAGE Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FL Posts: 10,776 Trader Rating: (78) Feedback Score: 78 reviews	dont waste your time, go 1jz __________________ Like us on Facebook! *Review Thread:* Click here to see our review thread!

04-25-2011, 11:43 PM	#4
Hailtothesilvia Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Lafayette, LA Age: 41 Posts: 439 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sell it. I think you're better off going SR or KA-T __________________ TAOspeedwagon II

04-26-2011, 12:06 AM	#6
s14tan Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dallas.Texas Age: 34 Posts: 582 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Keep a stockpile of headgaskets. __________________

04-26-2011, 12:28 AM	#7
ChicagoS14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago Age: 37 Posts: 695 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	7MGTES are garbage in a Supra already, taking time and effort to put one into a 240SX is a FAIL waiting to happen. Dont waste your time and just get a real engine. The 7M is not only a 200 hp engine that is lazy as hell, it barely makes more power then a KA with 7 psi on a junkyard turbo setup. On top of that its not only complicated and unreliable its an old ass engine. __________________ 95 240SX 1JZGTE \| SC300 2JZGE daily www.240sxguide.com

04-25-2011, 11:27 PM	#3
skizsystem Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Rialto Age: 32 Posts: 393 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	point is that i already have the whole motor, trans, ecu , and wiring harness. dont really have money for a 1jz swap. trying to be unique here but in my eyes if it can pull off some sick long drifts and smash on almost anyone i took on in my 3800 lbs supra, then i can only imagine how it would feel in the s13.

04-26-2011, 12:30 AM	#8
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Why the fuck would anyone want a 7mgte? That engine sucks hardcore. There was an idiot here in Norcal that swapped a 7mgte into a FD. __________________

04-26-2011, 12:50 AM	#9
hassanbakar123 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: san bernardino Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	there was a post a while back it was a green s14 with a 350z front end and a 7mgte swap and i think he used the r-154 tranny..... i wounld waste my money or time with that swap.....part out the car.... __________________ https://www.linkedin.com/in/hassanbakar

04-26-2011, 01:50 AM	#11
frftw Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: usa Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	idk if somone had the fab skills nd the chassis nd motor lying round that would be kinda cool to see but paying other ppl to make mounts nd wiring ect it would just be uneconomical. tho it would be cool to see you would probably be better off with some other motor. also think of it this way: less weight over the front you handle better! those strait sixes hang over the front liek mofos __________________ 1990 240sx coupe, 1997 BMW 328i, 1981 MB 300SD

04-26-2011, 02:19 AM	#12
towlie Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pacific NorthWest Posts: 2,500 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	7m? Why the hell would you swap that motor? Shit, you'd be better off with a 5m

04-26-2011, 04:09 AM	#13
zurud Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: evansville, in Posts: 391 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	The 7m tranny and engine mount is the same with 1JZ. So any kit for jz swap for s chassis will be the same. I think you should do it instead of spending another 2k for 1jz. The engine is already been rebuilt with hks headgasket. If you don't want the 7m, I'll take it of your hand.

04-26-2011, 07:16 PM	#15
camaro379ss Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 363 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	It would be one of those things that would be interesting to see once....but still not worth it. __________________ 1991 Nissan B13 Sentra sr20det 300whp/1991 Nissan S13 240sx sr20det ~260whp

04-26-2011, 07:19 PM	#16
redline racer510 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: EARFF(earth for you idiots) Posts: 1,072 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	IMHO the 7m isn't an interesting swap in terms of being unique, maybe in terms of blowing up but not unique. Even with the hks HG they aren't that great( high mileage, old technology, headache to work on, there's a good reason you don't see too many 240 owners swap them into their S-chassis). Just sell it and save yourself the headache, please I don't even want to see a 7m swap thread. __________________ WARNING: User has a low tolerance for stupidity. Post at your own risk.

04-26-2011, 07:54 PM	#18
BUFFRATS13 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Covina Age: 37 Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	put whatever engine in whatever chassis you would like and stop seeking the approval of the drift community. theres pros and cons to every swap as well as haters and purest who are just gonna flame you all day for asking this question. put your engine in and if at the end of the day you regret it... then well you live and you learn... or rock your 7m at events, tear some shit up and earn some respect... simple __________________ "NEVER FORGET WHERE YOU CAME FROM........GRASSROOTS LOVE"

04-26-2011, 09:22 PM	#21
c-los13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Edinburg, Texas Age: 35 Posts: 446 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dont these engine come on 92 cressidas too?? if they do, i dont think the 1j motor brackets will work since they sell mounts to fit 1j's in cressidas. im just saying on the other hand....whatever rocks your world man....if thats what you want...do it!!! it wont be the best swap for your 240sx and you know that, but its worth the try i guess.

04-26-2011, 09:26 PM	#23
statickx991 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pa Posts: 210 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	honestly very diff swap in my opinion. i agree with clos13, show people whats up and rock it. built it show some people what it can do. i say go for it. you got it so do it. __________________ im a f18 bro

04-26-2011, 10:52 PM	#25
murffy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Orange county Age: 34 Posts: 585 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	Just do it man, if you could rip it up on the bigass supra, it should feel like pretty nice on a 13

04-26-2011, 11:01 PM	#26
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Yeah, do it. I dare you. BE DIFFERENT __________________

04-27-2011, 12:28 AM	#27
Epic.Movement Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oakland, CA Age: 34 Posts: 56 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	YouTube - Nissan S13 7mgte SWAP

04-27-2011, 03:11 AM	#28
zurud Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: evansville, in Posts: 391 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	You have to use cressida oil pan and pickup because it's front sump. Last edited by zurud; 04-28-2011 at 04:03 AM.. Reason: r

04-27-2011, 09:12 AM	#29
GeneralTso Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Proctorville,Ohio Age: 35 Posts: 61 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you think you're capable of wiring it up, go for it. just get a 1jz mount kit, and go at it. can't be too much different.

04-27-2011, 05:32 PM	#30
310R Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: GRESHAM,OREGON Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Don't listen to them,swap the engine if you want.We are currently finishing a build on one of these motors in a mk3 supra.It should make about 650hp on low boost and close to 800 on high boost.This motor has plenty of potential,headgasket problems were a torque and finish issue.Fix that and you have a bullet proof motor.We thought about 1jz but getting parts local or anywhere is tuff for those motors.You may have to fab mounts,but that can be done easily.Goodluck with the swap.