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Old 12-10-2012, 09:40 AM   #1891
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What is the maximum negative offset on S14 with OEM front fender and rear fender Origin Lab +50 ?

Front 9.5 to 10.5
Reat 10.5 to 12

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There is no such thing since it'll be dependent on camber, tire sizing and how much you bow in/out the rear fenders. Best bet is to look around and see for yourself, what people are running and copy their setup. Wheel Whore thread and Rimtuck would be your friend.
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:04 AM   #1892
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give us some sizes and specs
do you want to run camber or no
do you want to roll or pull your fenders or no
theres alot of factors you are leaving out
Im not sure what size & specs you need. It's a stock s13, I plan on getting camber later on. Not much though. I'd rather not roll/pull.
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Im not sure what size & specs you need. It's a stock s13, I plan on getting camber later on. Not much though. I'd rather not roll/pull.
Your lack of info doesn't help us help you. You could go about your "fitment" in many ways.

If your car isn't already on height adjustable coilovers, you won't see any kind of "fitment" whatsoever. 2 inches is a mild drop and it makes me assume that you're still using a spring/strut which in the front, will get in the way of achieving "fitment".

XXR's fit like shit and you usually have to get some spacers to get them to look acceptable. 522's are the retarded demon offspring of the TE37's. If you're going to go with knock offs of TE's, I would suggest Varrstoen or Rota Grids but if you can go with real Works, that would be best.

You will need camber to make you car look good. And lowering it more than 2 inches will give you camber that stock specs could not. As a matter of fact, at stock height, there's some negative camber. Not a lot but it's not at exactly 0.

Please use the search function that this forum offers or use google. Rimtuck is also a nice place to start.

Magic spec numbers are floating around ALL OVER this forum for S13's. But since I'm feeling nice today, 17x8-17x9.5 fits under stock fenders with fender modifications--any wider and you're looking at a world full of hammering and rubbing. +35 for a 9" fits but it will look sunk thus why spacers were invented. I don't advocate spacers but they help when used correctly. Learn about optimal offsets and deal with spacers when you are more adept to wheel fitment.

It's really not that difficult once you have the knowledge under your belt. It'll be easier for you to figure it out yourself. Good luck.
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:38 AM   #1894
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^^^9js +35 wont clear any suspension up front.
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^^^9js +35 wont clear any suspension up front.
Right, forgot to mention that.
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So +35 won't work up front..? I'm getting adjustable coils in January or so. I was thinking about Rota grids if I can afford them. Do you suggest buying everything at once so I know exactly what is fitting to what? At least camber and wheels. I guess I'll look into rota's. But I'm still lost on finding 4x114.3 in 17's. Do they not make those?
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To give you an idea 225mm roughly equates to 9 inches so 225 is square to most 9j wheels.
Normally a "square" fitment is having the same width of tread and rim. from Falken tires website a 225/50r16 FK452 has a tread width of 8.1" and a overall width of 9.1". It would be square on a 8" rim. it would be streched on a 9" rim. Hell the approved rim size by Falken is only 6-8".
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Hi guys - was wondering if you can help with what tire size will be best for me ?

Setup is :

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Coilovers with fully adjustable arms
Front and rear arches slightly wider than normal but with metal work not overfenders

Wheels are
17"
5x114.3 (R33 hubs)
9J ET25 for the front
9.5 ET20 for the rear

Its going to be a street / track / drift car but im not really into the stretched tire or strong negative camber setups as im more interested in grip and sensible wear. Also not going for mega lows !

Was thinking a 235 or 245 on the front and a 255 or 265 on the rear.

Anyone able to shed some light or advice as the fitments threads seem to be more stretch and camber based ?
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There is no such thing since it'll be dependent on camber, tire sizing and how much you bow in/out the rear fenders. Best bet is to look around and see for yourself, what people are running and copy their setup. Wheel Whore thread and Rimtuck would be your friend.

Front : 9.5 -14 (OEM fender pulled)
Rear : 10.5 -26 (Origin lab fender)

Ok for my setup ?

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Hi guys - was wondering if you can help with what tire size will be best for me ?

Setup is :

S13
Coilovers with fully adjustable arms
Front and rear arches slightly wider than normal but with metal work not overfenders

Wheels are
17"
5x114.3 (R33 hubs)
9J ET25 for the front
9.5 ET20 for the rear

Its going to be a street / track / drift car but im not really into the stretched tire or strong negative camber setups as im more interested in grip and sensible wear. Also not going for mega lows !

Was thinking a 235 or 245 on the front and a 255 or 265 on the rear.

Anyone able to shed some light or advice as the fitments threads seem to be more stretch and camber based ?
Your going to rub alot with those tire specs
I'd go with a 225 Front and you might be able to run a 255 but I'd suggest a 245
just my opinion
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So +35 won't work up front..? I'm getting adjustable coils in January or so. I was thinking about Rota grids if I can afford them. Do you suggest buying everything at once so I know exactly what is fitting to what? At least camber and wheels. I guess I'll look into rota's. But I'm still lost on finding 4x114.3 in 17's. Do they not make those?
If you are going for a flush fitment a +35 is the farthest from it for the front, you could probably get away with that in the rear. Correct me if I'm wrong.
anywhere from the +15/+25
Range will be good and safe for you for the front. I think a +25/+35 would be ok for the rear.
if you roll and possibly pull your fenders you won't need to run much camber but if you run a +25 Rear you will need to pull. Just research man
like stated earlier it is really quite simple.

And btw I'm running xxr 527s 4lug 17inch
they do make rims in that bolt pattern/size range
you just got to.hunt for it
I'm going 5lug soon just for 1. It's better for drift/track and 2. Way more rim selection.
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Your going to rub alot with those tire specs
I'd go with a 225 Front and you might be able to run a 255 but I'd suggest a 245
just my opinion

In what way do you mean rub ?

On lock, due to being low or everywhere ?

Might be some custom metal work involved then :S
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Hi guys - was wondering if you can help with what tire size will be best for me ?

Setup is :

S13
Coilovers with fully adjustable arms
Front and rear arches slightly wider than normal but with metal work not overfenders

Wheels are
17"
5x114.3 (R33 hubs)
9J ET25 for the front
9.5 ET20 for the rear

Its going to be a street / track / drift car but im not really into the stretched tire or strong negative camber setups as im more interested in grip and sensible wear. Also not going for mega lows !

Was thinking a 235 or 245 on the front and a 255 or 265 on the rear.

Anyone able to shed some light or advice as the fitments threads seem to be more stretch and camber based ?
I'd go 235/45-17 up front and 265/40-17 rears, should be doable with stock fenders. Just roll and some pull if you're running close to -.5 offset (which you should if you want grip). If you dont want them to be too big, 235/40-17 and 255/40-17 is my next recommendation. Should be common enough sizing that you got some pretty decent selection tires. I'm partial to Dunlop Star Specs but I keep hearing nothing but good things about Hankook RS3s.
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Hi guys wanted to use my resources before making a new thread

I have a new car. This guy has decent fitment and is able to run it without a roll or pull.
He runs a 18x9.5 + 38 with a 225/40/18

I would like to run a similar set up for the sake of my fenders and no rubs

But I want 17s and to run the stock tires on my rims. I don't understand what with does to offset so if you could help me out.
I'm looking to run a 17x9 + 28 or +38 with a 225/45/17 tire (Oem tires)

Would that make it more or less aggressive?
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Hey anyone out there know if i can Run 17x9.75 +25 On stock height S14, as well as when i Put my Pbm coils on it. if i need spacers or not? Tires are 225/40/17
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Do you run any spacers in the front?
Would probably need some to clear the front. I dont clear 10j +22 upfront, I have to run atleast 5mm to clear my coilovers.

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Hi guys wanted to use my resources before making a new thread

I have a new car. This guy has decent fitment and is able to run it without a roll or pull.
He runs a 18x9.5 + 38 with a 225/40/18

I would like to run a similar set up for the sake of my fenders and no rubs

But I want 17s and to run the stock tires on my rims. I don't understand what with does to offset so if you could help me out.
I'm looking to run a 17x9 + 28 or +38 with a 225/45/17 tire (Oem tires)

Would that make it more or less aggressive?
The lower the offset, the more the wheel will poke out. The higher the offset, the more itll be sunk it. If you want to run 17x9s, atleast get it down to +25 to +20. +38 wont clear the front strut, +28 may or may not clear depending on what coilover you're running (if you're running one).

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Hey anyone out there know if i can Run 17x9.75 +25 On stock height S14, as well as when i Put my Pbm coils on it. if i need spacers or not? Tires are 225/40/17
You probably would need to kick it down some. Make sure when you put the coilovers on, pull the knuckle away from the suspension before you tighten the perch bolts up. Maximize the space between the wheel and the coilover so itll minimize the need for some spacers.
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Battles 17 x 9.5 +15 on all 4, Isis suspension arm kit, ksport kontrol pros. (Support local!)
What im looking for is tire size advice for a clean look with my new setup. Open to any suggestions so fire away.

hey man my buddy has some mb battles on his s13 silvia, obviously an s14 wheel well is larger but if youre looking for a cheep way out a 225/40/18 will fit. its a pretty intense stretch but it was 380 for the set shipped. just a thought.
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Would probably need some to clear the front. I dont clear 10j +22 upfront, I have to run atleast 5mm to clear my coilovers.
What he said, I run 9s in the front though (17x9 +24?) with an 5/16 spacer so effective offset is somewhere around +15. I have some 25 mil bolt ons though that I'm about to run bringing offset to -1 and I shouldn't have any issues with rubbing the stock metal with that setup.
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Would probably need some to clear the front. I dont clear 10j +22 upfront, I have to run atleast 5mm to clear my coilovers.


The lower the offset, the more the wheel will poke out. The higher the offset, the more itll be sunk it. If you want to run 17x9s, atleast get it down to +25 to +20. +38 wont clear the front strut, +28 may or may not clear depending on what coilover you're running (if you're running one).
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Well this is for a corolla. I have not heard of them having issues hitting coils yet.

And your saying to buy +28 offset on the 17x9 then? And that will be near the same of his 18x9.5 +38?

If anything I'd want to run a less agresive before more. I mean its a brand new car and I don't want to touch my fenders
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If its for a corolla, the fuck are you asking us for?

But as far as 9j +28 vs 9.5j +38, use this:
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my s13 has s14 innner tie rod and s14 outer tie rod . i have 18x10 on negative 3.5 camber and cant get the toe right its maxed on both sides at 1.6 still anyone has a 18x10 with this camber what setup did you use?
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That's not a problem with your wheels or camber its a problem with your tie rod & flca combo. S14 tie rods are longer, so you need to run s14 flca with them. At least that's what I'm doing in my car and I have 0 toe
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Front : 9.5 -14 (OEM fender pulled)
Rear : 10.5 -26 (Origin lab fender)

Ok for my setup ?

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for the Front you can it with crazy camber and if you run 215/35

For the Rear- maybe need spacer or run zero camber and fat tire.
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Maybe someone can help me out. Im stuck between 235-40 and 225-40 for a 18x10.5 +10 on a stock body coupe for the rears.


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Old 12-14-2012, 07:39 AM   #1920
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Shit, see if you can stretch 225/40-18 on that, itll be a pain in the ass. But you need the least amount of tires, a decent amount of pull and some camber.
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