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Old 09-30-2008, 03:41 PM   #91
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It happens here all the time too. There's an election set here for 2 weeks from now and it's being pretty ugly and dirty as well. haha
so very true. I'm not even voting for Obama and I'm sick of all the shit spewing on here, along with the rest of the internet.
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so very true. I'm not even voting for Obama and I'm sick of all the shit spewing on here, along with the rest of the internet.
I'm living in Canada, so I probably won't bother voting either. I may even be to late to do it... I'll probably vote in the Canadian election since the voting station is only a few blocks from my house, but the way voting works here is different and my vote in my area likely won't matter one bit and the basically guaranteed winner is the guy I'd vote for anyway.

But then again, if everyone says that...
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It happens here all the time too. There's an election set here for 2 weeks from now and it's being pretty ugly and dirty as well. haha
You're Libel laws are a little more stricter then ours.
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Now videos on YouTube are being pulled for "copyright reasons"

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yeah, I think we all know the CRA was directly at fault but what the major cause was that the poor was being approved on houses well outside of their means. I know that there were some fake W2's floating around Realtor's office's but I think there's more to it than that.
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That's true they are. A little to strict I think... A little to open to "He hurt my feelings... Make him pay me a million dollars"

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Also, why don't you look up these names:
Aquiles Suarez (formerly the director of government and industry relations for Fannie Mae)
Charlie Black (made at least $820,000 working for Freddie Mac from 1999 to 2004)
Wayne Berman and John Green (made $1.14 million working on behalf of Fannie Mae for lobbying firm Ogilvy Government Relations)
Arther B. Culvahouse Jr. (earned $80,000 from Fannie Mae in 2003 and 2004, while working for lobbying and law firm O'Melveny & Myers LLP)
Rick Davis (head of the Homeownership Alliance, a lobbying association that included Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, real estate agents, homebuilders, and non-profits)

All working on the McCain campaign and all profited BIG TIME from Fannie and Freddie.

Also, 20+ fundraisers have been lobbied by McCain for Fannie and Freddie over the past 9 years, while good ol' John McCain profited a cool 12.3 million.

So next time you try to pin Fannie and Freddy on Obama or anyone else, why don't you stop reading your little emails and start researching.

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I really don't want Obama in office. If it IS true that he will pull off some Stalin-esque shit, I don't want him NEAR the white house.... and if its not true, oh well, he's not in office anyway, so win-win to me. lol.

EDIT: Post #100 in this thread... hahaha.
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I really don't want Obama in office. If it IS true that he will pull off some Stalin-esque shit, I don't want him NEAR the white house.... and if its not true, oh well, he's not in office anyway, so win-win to me. lol.

EDIT: Post #100 in this thread... hahaha.
it's really not true. Every campaign has a few people who's aim it is to remove smears against them. This is nothing new, it's something that is being twisted to sound new.
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it's really not true. Every campaign has a few people who's aim it is to remove smears against them. This is nothing new, it's something that is being twisted to sound new.
Obama was suppose to be above all that. He was suppose to be change from old Washington. He was suppose to be the one that wasn't corrupted by Washington. He was suppose to be the anti-politician.. well you get the picture.

Turns out he's just like all politicians before him.
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All the McCain slip-up Youtube videos I had favorited have been removed multiple times, as I've had to search for them anew every time.
Didn't know political Youtube videos being pulled was news to anyone.


Some excerpt from somewhere. Two sides to everything in politics.

"The McCain campaign tried to pre-emptively deflect such revelations by reviving the old Rove trick of accusing your opponent of your own biggest failings. It ran attack ads about Obama’s own links to the mortgage giants. But neither of the former Freddie-Fannie executives vilified in those ads, Franklin Raines and James Johnson, had worked at those companies lately or are currently associated with the Obama campaign. (Raines never worked for the campaign at all.) By contrast, Davis is the tip of the Freddie-Fannie-McCain iceberg. McCain’s senior adviser, his campaign’s vice chairman, his Congressional liaison and the reported head of his White House transition team all either made fortunes from recent Freddie-Fannie lobbying or were players in firms that did."
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Obama was suppose to be above all that. He was suppose to be change from old Washington. He was suppose to be the one that wasn't corrupted by Washington. He was suppose to be the anti-politician.. well you get the picture.

Turns out he's just like all politicians before him.
but is it smart to just let the smear campaign happen? no. But fact is that the corrupt Washington that Obama speaks of is mainly the Bush administration. Other than that I don't see him being much different than Clinton or Bush Sr (who I think was a great President by the way), except for the fact that he has a daunting task of unfucking what has been fucked.
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but is it smart to just let the smear campaign happen? no. But fact is that the corrupt Washington that Obama speaks of is mainly the Bush administration. Other than that I don't see him being much different than Clinton or Bush Sr (who I think was a great President by the way), except for the fact that he has a daunting task of unfucking what has been fucked.
corruption only started when bush took office.
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corruption only started when bush took office.
Corruption has been around as long as society.
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I'd like to chime in here, with my vote.

I'll be voting for McCain, not because he's white, not because its republican, non of that bullshit. I just hate what Obama stands for. Hate is a harsh term, I know, but there is no better way to describe my feelings towards such liberal bullshit agendas. I want to be able to buy a gun, as a law abiding citizen, without having to register as a "terrorist", or have the government go into my private life and check my computer, my school, my friends, to make sure I wont try to kill someone. I want to be able to protect my home and family without having to face murder charges. I want to be able to say "I dont like obama." without being called a racist, or an ignorant prick. I feel that I am just the opposite of ignorant. I want immigration laws enforced, revamped, and stuck to, with provisions made for non-criminal day workers. I know what Obama is about, and thats why Im not voting for him. Im not a republican, nor a democrat. Im a realist.
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I would have an anti-smear campaign.

Does that make me a communist dictator?

EVERY FUCKING CANDIDATE WORTH A SHIT IN THE INFORMATION AGE HAS THESE TYPE OF PEOPLE.

I don't know how you could vote for McCain after you see how many people involved in his campaign made a killing off the current banking "crisis". Even though Obama probably has just as many lol.
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I don't know how you could vote for McCain after you see how many people involved in his campaign made a killing off the current banking "crisis". Even though Obama probably has just as many lol.
So you canceled out your own sentence there lol
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you know why RJFs posts are great, because:

THEY ARE NOT ONE SIDED

They simply state facts, and let you choose your own opinions.

it concerns me how most obama followers have religious furvor and hate against everyone that does not support them. i don't support either of the two major parties, but the obama crusade is concerning me. blind mob mentality at it's best.

This is one charming bastard is all the reason that most people will vote for him.
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I love how people can have concrete proof of a fact and still just scream "Bias!! it's just your opinion you know!"

It's not my opinion you need water to survive. It's a cold hard fact. Unless it comes from a source with different values of your own... Then it's not true.

I'm not picking on anyone in particular in here, I just find it funny how people can stare truth or fact in the face and not see it for what it is.
God, these political threads are always so disappointing. Every time I read one I am endlessly disappointed in the intelligence and reading-comprehension of the American public.

Tell me, what facts are stated in the first article RJF posted? What exactly is Obama doing? What exactly is he being accused of? How is he infringing on people's 1st amendment rights? How is he like Stalin? Oh, that's right, the article doesn't explain any of that. All it does is spread a quote by a Republican from Missouri that claims Obama is doing all of these things. And yet everyone who has posted in this thread so far hasn't seemed to notice that.

Yes, Obama has set up a website to monitor the campaign. Why? After the swift-boat fiasco of the 2004, he'd be stupid not to. If a lie or false statement is repeated enough times in the media, people will start to believe it. How many people out there think that Obama is a muslim? How many people still think that Iraq had a hand in 9-11? As a candidate (left or right), if you aren't pro-active in fighting libelous accusations and misinformation, if you don't take it head on immediately, that misinformation will spread and can destroy your campaign.
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So you canceled out your own sentence there lol
Yeah because I hate all politicians.

There is not a single one above city level that cares about anyone but themselves and their business partners.

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God, these political threads are always so disappointing. Every time I read one I am endlessly disappointed in the intelligence and reading-comprehension of the American public.

Tell me, what facts are stated in the first article RJF posted? What exactly is Obama doing? What exactly is he being accused of? How is he infringing on people's 1st amendment rights? How is he like Stalin? Oh, that's right, the article doesn't explain any of that. All it does is spread a quote by a Republican from Missouri that claims Obama is doing all of these things. And yet everyone who has posted in this thread so far hasn't seemed to notice that.

Yes, Obama has set up a website to monitor the campaign. Why? After the swift-boat fiasco of the 2004, he'd be stupid not to. If a lie or false statement is repeated enough times in the media, people will start to believe it. How many people out there think that Obama is a muslim? How many people still think that Iraq had a hand in 9-11? As a candidate (left or right), if you aren't pro-active in fighting libelous accusations and misinformation, if you don't take it head on immediately, that misinformation will spread and can destroy your campaign.
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