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Neo Yakra · 06-01-2004, 08:17 PM

my S-14 is practically born to drift, i just help her along...I dont down hill...but uphill is another question...i spend all my extra money on my car and its not because i can its because i cant....drifting/driving is the most amazing feeling...its what i love!

driftyour40 · 06-02-2004, 01:53 AM

[QUOTE=rpsports]u used to love drifting every intersection when cruising around town, before the cops started investigating us. lol[/QUOT

Chernobyl · 06-02-2004, 03:08 AM

Wow. Lots of BS in this thread.

Drifting on touge is plain stupid. I do it sometimes on downhill hairpins because its so damn easy. However, its usually a much better idea to grip the corners. There is really no reason to pretend you're Fujiwara Takumi out there.

Track drifting (not wussy parking lot stuff) is way hard though and I wish I were better at it. Also provides that margin for error that is so lacking on touge. I'd rather understeer into some dirt runoff than hit the side of a mountain.

Var · 06-02-2004, 11:02 AM

There are only 2 turns on my mountain run where i can "drift" but i cant nail them all the time. Of course there are times when i'm driving sideways a lot of turns but unless i enter the turn sideways i dont consider it a "drift". 5 days after driving my ae86 i was already getting more sideways than my s13 which i have had for almost 2 years. So those of you out there with 86's, if you dont slide, you arent going fast enough. It's too easy with a rolla..too bad i sold it. I'm surprised Takumi hasnt replied to this thread yet... where are you?

Flybert · 06-02-2004, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chernobyl

Wow. Lots of BS in this thread.

Drifting on touge is plain stupid. I do it sometimes on downhill hairpins because its so damn easy. However, its usually a much better idea to grip the corners. There is really no reason to pretend you're Fujiwara Takumi out there.

Track drifting (not wussy parking lot stuff) is way hard though and I wish I were better at it. Also provides that margin for error that is so lacking on touge. I'd rather understeer into some dirt runoff than hit the side of a mountain.

Why not drift touge if you are good enough? Maybe you aren't good enough, but there are plenty of people who are and who use it to progress as a driver in between track events. It's not like there are track events on every weekday. You gotta practice somehow and touge makes you so much more consistant because it forces you to perfect your skills. Take what you learn on the track and apply it to the touge and then take what you learn on the touge and apply it to the track. Track/Touge/Track compliment each other nicely.

Chernobyl · 06-03-2004, 01:05 AM

There is nothing you learn on touge that you can't learn on the track. Unless your track has dangerous cliffs you can fall off of. Then maybe you can practice crashing and burning.

The only way to get better at track racing is to.... (OMG, logic!)... go practice on the track.

Flybert · 06-03-2004, 02:57 AM

Chernobyl, I think I've learned a few things on the touge that I haven't been able to learn on the track. First off, typically there are more elevation changes on the touge than on a track. For uphill, you need to take in mad speed and use lots of throttle to change angle mid drift. For downhill, you take less speed and use more steering work to keep yourself on the road and proceed to throttle out. I don't think I would be able to learn that stuff at any of the tracks around here that are available for drifting. Like I said before, I think touge teaches a person to be more consistant than at a track. No margin for error means that you have to be extremely focused on what you are doing. You can learn that on a track for sure but probably not to the same extent as being on a narrow windy road.

*HaLo* · 06-04-2004, 04:07 PM

drifting is lame...

Chernobyl · 06-04-2004, 04:21 PM

Flybert, I agree to a point. Last time I was at a real track (PMI in Pueblo, Colorado) I felt so comfortable and quit paying attention. Then after a few hard laps trying to keep up with a friend of mine (who's really experienced, I stood no chance) I overheated my brakes and went for a little off road excursion. This would have never happened on touge, because I simply won't push that hard in the mountains. What I'm trying to say is the track gives you a safe feeling and you are more liable to make mistakes. That I agree with you on.

However, practicing your skills at 100% on touge is just asking for trouble. I know this personally.

Halo, drifting is not lame. Be a litle more open-minded. Most guys that I know that are into drift are also very into autox and SCCA time trials. Perhaps its different where you live, but here we try to make drifting just a fun activity to kill some time between classic forms of racing. In the end, its all just for fun.

ronny5 · 06-04-2004, 04:31 PM

i tried 2 times at drift day, not relaly into. i did ok, but eh, i think track racing is way funner =D so no i don really drift

Big Perm · 06-14-2004, 04:20 PM

I live in the heart of the blue ridge mountains - there are more curvy mountain passes than you can shake a stick at.

I have only had my 240 running for a few months. I'm not really keen on the idea of sliding blindly around a blind corner and meeting the all too common Tahoe or Suburban that seems to be around every corner. In a parking lot or late at night around a very visable turn - sure. mountain pass no!

***S14DB*** · 06-14-2004, 04:27 PM

Right into the curb.

What are these mountains you talk of?

*CleanS14* · 06-15-2004, 03:30 PM

i'm a poser!!!

Flybert · 06-15-2004, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iEATrice

i'm a poser!!!

HA, you don't have to tell anyone that, everybody already knows. AHAHA.

*CleanS14* · 06-15-2004, 04:12 PM

Thanks for affirming that Chris!!! I'm trying my hardest to be a true poser these days... it's good to know people are noticing!!!

If you're going to DD17 I'll see you there!!!

Flybert · 06-15-2004, 10:49 PM

I'll be hard parking on saturday and competing on sunday. When I registered for the event, there wasn't an option to select "poser", only novice, intermediate, and advance. I was very disappointed that I wouldn't be classified correctly. See you there man.

ONYX S-13 · 06-16-2004, 05:31 PM

I've only drifted once man it felt good.....All the times before that i'll just swing the butt out and basically just slide through the corner without using the gas pedal at all or (Or very very little)..

Idratherbsidewayz · 06-16-2004, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240Driver39

no...not really interested to...except occassional shinanigans in the rain

Id like to try it but don't feel like wearing my tires or stock suspension. And having one wheel spinning ain't the safest thing...

In the rain I powerslide. I have done one successful drift and it was initiated by accident. Im too scared to wreck my car or another on the street so I don't try it very often...

nissantuner22 · 06-17-2004, 08:18 AM

I don't drift, I just lose control, and counter steer frantically.

Fibercus · 06-17-2004, 03:34 PM

I drifted a spot we went too for many months, it was a perfect, but complex turn. I started getting more consistant, more sideways, little faster .. etc etc. But I forgot what it ultimately came down too - simple fact its not as controlled (environment wise) as any track event and shit happens, shit you dont expect. - and all it took was a patch of dirt a tad larger then i expected. (piled up after many runs with some friends and myself.) to turn my life upsidedown... litterally.

My white s14, ive had for roughly 6yrs. S14 sr, Tein HE's, etcetc...

hard to explain the turn, but when I started taking it up a notch, it all came down to last second traction predictabilty to save my ass from hitting the embankment (spelling). On my last attempt i did loose it, hit the side, honestly figured i would only get some quarter damage (suspension, etc) but little did I know the little lipwas enough to toss me upsidedown. I did have my windows down, and I always do in the canyons, but i wasnt phuysically prepared for being tossed upsidedown. I instinctively throw my left hand in the air, (big no no, grab your harness, grab your nuts, grab anything to keep them in!) I dont know how it happen but I managed to slice my hand open (7cm long by 3cm wide) to the bone, severing 2 tendons for my thumb. I climbed out, thought everything was ok - everyone ran up and asked me if im cool. I said "yep, np." then i heard the sound of pouring water (blood) looked down and realized this was not a close call like the many times before. (you only have so many close calls b4 something is bound to happen).

long story short. hospital 4 2days, plastic surgery, much pain, all the shit that comes with recovery. I should be 4-6month before I get ful movement of my thumb again. - And I consider myself very very lucky.

Sorry for the long post, ive never posted about the whole incident, but thought id do a short summary of what happened to me. Im little to busy to go thru and clean it up a bit. hope it makes sense.

*CleanS14* · 06-17-2004, 05:52 PM

Damn Marcus... I'm sorry to hear that bro... I'm glad you're still alive though!!!

95zilvia · 06-17-2004, 10:21 PM

yeah every now and then, when sliding too much results in the use of countersteering, so if that's a drift, then im a MFDN... yeahhhhhhh

blu808 · 06-22-2004, 04:46 PM

Take it to the track people.. Be a track bum like me, Its fun...

TUnity2 · 06-22-2004, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95KoukiS14

no...and its that I don't trust my skills...I just haven't tired yet...nor am I interested to.

W3RD GRIP>drift

ONYX S-13 · 06-29-2004, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu808

Take it to the track people.. Be a track bum like me, Its fun...

I would if i had the money and the time...I'd seriously be there almost every weekend.

Zemus · 07-22-2004, 01:49 PM

Im a track bitch, and my car is a track hore. I love it

Var · 07-22-2004, 05:17 PM

i drift.. seriously. I went to my first real trackday and i drifted. i wish i had some video footage cause i know you dont believe me

**mrmephistopheles** · 07-23-2004, 11:20 PM

No. I drift DISHONESTLY!

AAA240SX · 07-24-2004, 11:37 PM

Drifting is GAY. Fuk dat shit, just drive ur damn car.

For any1 that tries to "drift" in neighborhoods, you queer ass bitch.
Somebody in a 240 almost hit my little brother trying to "DORI DORI" on my curvey ass street.

Bitches...Do ur practicing in a secluded area...That way the pigeons can shit on it.

Initial D is cool, but don't try to drive like the characters in it. If u think u can...Drive with a cup full of steaming hot coffee and try to "drift" without it spilling. Learn a lesson posers...

Oh yea, and if ur running an open diff. Ur not drifting: ur dragging half of ur car's ass around.

sil40sx · 07-25-2004, 12:09 AM

i like to do what i can at huge open parking lots, the one where i work has a good turn and alot of open space with no parked cars. the ground is rough though, so that sucks, but i just mess around, if i get a good slide im stoked. i would really like a parking lot with cones, but around here, that doesnt happen. i recently drifited my wifes jetta into a dairy, actually i didnt drift into it, i pretty much just drove into it.

View Poll Results: Do you actually drift in the hills alogn narrow roads?
Yes, I have skills and a set of brass ones.	46	21.10%
No, I don't trust my skills.	74	33.94%
Only on sections where there is margin for error.	98	44.95%
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06-01-2004, 08:17 PM	#31
Neo Yakra Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: PHX,AZ Age: 39 Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my S-14 is practically born to drift, i just help her along...I dont down hill...but uphill is another question...i spend all my extra money on my car and its not because i can its because i cant....drifting/driving is the most amazing feeling...its what i love! __________________ If you Die.... you Die "Bruce Lang" 3 Time National Judo Champion

06-02-2004, 11:02 AM	#34
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 42 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There are only 2 turns on my mountain run where i can "drift" but i cant nail them all the time. Of course there are times when i'm driving sideways a lot of turns but unless i enter the turn sideways i dont consider it a "drift". 5 days after driving my ae86 i was already getting more sideways than my s13 which i have had for almost 2 years. So those of you out there with 86's, if you dont slide, you arent going fast enough. It's too easy with a rolla..too bad i sold it. I'm surprised Takumi hasnt replied to this thread yet... where are you? __________________ Hi

06-04-2004, 04:07 PM	#38
HaLo from Canada, eh! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec Age: 45 Posts: 5,201 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: HaLo Feedback Score: 0 reviews	drifting is lame... __________________ -> HaLo Race Car: '98 E36 BMW M3 Daily Drivers: '23 Audi Q4 e-tron & '13 VW Touareg SOLD: 01 GPW Honda S2000 PARTED: 93 Pearl White 240SX LE Fastback w/SR20DET SOLD: 93 Super White 240SX SE Convertible w/Silvia Front

06-14-2004, 04:27 PM	#42
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Right into the curb. What are these mountains you talk of? __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

06-02-2004, 01:53 AM	#32
driftyour40 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SoCal Age: 42 Posts: 644 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	[QUOTE=rpsports]u used to love drifting every intersection when cruising around town, before the cops started investigating us. lol[/QUOT

06-02-2004, 03:08 AM	#33
Chernobyl Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, CO Age: 41 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Wow. Lots of BS in this thread. Drifting on touge is plain stupid. I do it sometimes on downhill hairpins because its so damn easy. However, its usually a much better idea to grip the corners. There is really no reason to pretend you're Fujiwara Takumi out there. Track drifting (not wussy parking lot stuff) is way hard though and I wish I were better at it. Also provides that margin for error that is so lacking on touge. I'd rather understeer into some dirt runoff than hit the side of a mountain.

06-03-2004, 01:05 AM	#36
Chernobyl Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, CO Age: 41 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	There is nothing you learn on touge that you can't learn on the track. Unless your track has dangerous cliffs you can fall off of. Then maybe you can practice crashing and burning. The only way to get better at track racing is to.... (OMG, logic!)... go practice on the track.

06-03-2004, 02:57 AM	#37
Flybert Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: none Posts: 3,862 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Chernobyl, I think I've learned a few things on the touge that I haven't been able to learn on the track. First off, typically there are more elevation changes on the touge than on a track. For uphill, you need to take in mad speed and use lots of throttle to change angle mid drift. For downhill, you take less speed and use more steering work to keep yourself on the road and proceed to throttle out. I don't think I would be able to learn that stuff at any of the tracks around here that are available for drifting. Like I said before, I think touge teaches a person to be more consistant than at a track. No margin for error means that you have to be extremely focused on what you are doing. You can learn that on a track for sure but probably not to the same extent as being on a narrow windy road.

06-04-2004, 04:21 PM	#39
Chernobyl Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denver, CO Age: 41 Posts: 1,563 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Flybert, I agree to a point. Last time I was at a real track (PMI in Pueblo, Colorado) I felt so comfortable and quit paying attention. Then after a few hard laps trying to keep up with a friend of mine (who's really experienced, I stood no chance) I overheated my brakes and went for a little off road excursion. This would have never happened on touge, because I simply won't push that hard in the mountains. What I'm trying to say is the track gives you a safe feeling and you are more liable to make mistakes. That I agree with you on. However, practicing your skills at 100% on touge is just asking for trouble. I know this personally. Halo, drifting is not lame. Be a litle more open-minded. Most guys that I know that are into drift are also very into autox and SCCA time trials. Perhaps its different where you live, but here we try to make drifting just a fun activity to kill some time between classic forms of racing. In the end, its all just for fun.

06-04-2004, 04:31 PM	#40
ronny5 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: LOS ANGELES Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i tried 2 times at drift day, not relaly into. i did ok, but eh, i think track racing is way funner =D so no i don really drift

06-14-2004, 04:20 PM	#41
Big Perm Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 41 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I live in the heart of the blue ridge mountains - there are more curvy mountain passes than you can shake a stick at. I have only had my 240 running for a few months. I'm not really keen on the idea of sliding blindly around a blind corner and meeting the all too common Tahoe or Suburban that seems to be around every corner. In a parking lot or late at night around a very visable turn - sure. mountain pass no!

06-15-2004, 03:30 PM	#43
CleanS14 it's NOT a show car!! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,967 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: CleanS14 Feedback Score: 7 reviews	i'm a poser!!! __________________ NAKAMA \| ROOTS RUN DEEP

06-15-2004, 04:12 PM	#45
CleanS14 it's NOT a show car!! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,967 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: CleanS14 Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Thanks for affirming that Chris!!! I'm trying my hardest to be a true poser these days... it's good to know people are noticing!!! If you're going to DD17 I'll see you there!!! __________________ NAKAMA \| ROOTS RUN DEEP

06-15-2004, 10:49 PM	#46
Flybert Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: none Posts: 3,862 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I'll be hard parking on saturday and competing on sunday. When I registered for the event, there wasn't an option to select "poser", only novice, intermediate, and advance. I was very disappointed that I wouldn't be classified correctly. See you there man.

06-16-2004, 05:31 PM	#47
ONYX S-13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Laguna Niguel (O.C.) Posts: 1,301 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've only drifted once man it felt good.....All the times before that i'll just swing the butt out and basically just slide through the corner without using the gas pedal at all or (Or very very little)..

06-17-2004, 08:18 AM	#49
nissantuner22 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gainesville, Fl Age: 39 Posts: 1,056 Trader Rating: (-1) Feedback Score: -1 reviews	I don't drift, I just lose control, and counter steer frantically. __________________ Current Project: Operation: N/A SR: 93 Silvia Q SR20DE Engine with go fast goodies. , "Common problems 240sx's suffer from are curbs, trees, ditches, and other immovable objects."thx247 "on the tounge... there is no guardrails."- citizen

06-17-2004, 03:34 PM	#50
Fibercus BANNED Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Canyon Country, CA Age: 43 Posts: 714 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I drifted a spot we went too for many months, it was a perfect, but complex turn. I started getting more consistant, more sideways, little faster .. etc etc. But I forgot what it ultimately came down too - simple fact its not as controlled (environment wise) as any track event and shit happens, shit you dont expect. - and all it took was a patch of dirt a tad larger then i expected. (piled up after many runs with some friends and myself.) to turn my life upsidedown... litterally. My white s14, ive had for roughly 6yrs. S14 sr, Tein HE's, etcetc... hard to explain the turn, but when I started taking it up a notch, it all came down to last second traction predictabilty to save my ass from hitting the embankment (spelling). On my last attempt i did loose it, hit the side, honestly figured i would only get some quarter damage (suspension, etc) but little did I know the little lipwas enough to toss me upsidedown. I did have my windows down, and I always do in the canyons, but i wasnt phuysically prepared for being tossed upsidedown. I instinctively throw my left hand in the air, (big no no, grab your harness, grab your nuts, grab anything to keep them in!) I dont know how it happen but I managed to slice my hand open (7cm long by 3cm wide) to the bone, severing 2 tendons for my thumb. I climbed out, thought everything was ok - everyone ran up and asked me if im cool. I said "yep, np." then i heard the sound of pouring water (blood) looked down and realized this was not a close call like the many times before. (you only have so many close calls b4 something is bound to happen). long story short. hospital 4 2days, plastic surgery, much pain, all the shit that comes with recovery. I should be 4-6month before I get ful movement of my thumb again. - And I consider myself very very lucky. Sorry for the long post, ive never posted about the whole incident, but thought id do a short summary of what happened to me. Im little to busy to go thru and clean it up a bit. hope it makes sense. Last edited by Fibercus; 06-18-2004 at 10:43 AM..

06-17-2004, 05:52 PM	#51
CleanS14 it's NOT a show car!! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,967 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: CleanS14 Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Damn Marcus... I'm sorry to hear that bro... I'm glad you're still alive though!!! __________________ NAKAMA \| ROOTS RUN DEEP

06-17-2004, 10:21 PM	#52
95zilvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South San Francisco Age: 39 Posts: 1,860 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 95zilvia Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah every now and then, when sliding too much results in the use of countersteering, so if that's a drift, then im a MFDN... yeahhhhhhh

06-22-2004, 04:46 PM	#53
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 41 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Take it to the track people.. Be a track bum like me, Its fun... __________________

07-22-2004, 01:49 PM	#56
Zemus Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Minneapols Age: 39 Posts: 2,268 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Zemus Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Im a track bitch, and my car is a track hore. I love it __________________ \|Ziptied.com\|Hybrid Z\|D-Town Forum\|Clubfr.net\|

07-22-2004, 05:17 PM	#57
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 42 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i drift.. seriously. I went to my first real trackday and i drifted. i wish i had some video footage cause i know you dont believe me __________________ Hi

07-23-2004, 11:20 PM	#58
mrmephistopheles Magnanimous Justice Distribution Service Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 22 Posts: 14,369 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	No. I drift DISHONESTLY!

07-24-2004, 11:37 PM	#59
AAA240SX Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: IL Posts: 622 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Drifting is GAY. Fuk dat shit, just drive ur damn car. For any1 that tries to "drift" in neighborhoods, you queer ass bitch. Somebody in a 240 almost hit my little brother trying to "DORI DORI" on my curvey ass street. Bitches...Do ur practicing in a secluded area...That way the pigeons can shit on it. Initial D is cool, but don't try to drive like the characters in it. If u think u can...Drive with a cup full of steaming hot coffee and try to "drift" without it spilling. Learn a lesson posers... Oh yea, and if ur running an open diff. Ur not drifting: ur dragging half of ur car's ass around. __________________ -John 93 240SX FOR SALE!!!!!

07-25-2004, 12:09 AM	#60
sil40sx BANNED Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: modesto Posts: 322 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i like to do what i can at huge open parking lots, the one where i work has a good turn and alot of open space with no parked cars. the ground is rough though, so that sucks, but i just mess around, if i get a good slide im stoked. i would really like a parking lot with cones, but around here, that doesnt happen. i recently drifited my wifes jetta into a dairy, actually i didnt drift into it, i pretty much just drove into it.