s13 rear toe problem

[davidg01234]

so im going through brand new tires in about a month or so with normal driving. my car is lowered and i have megan racing rucas and i leaned the wheels back out so the camber is pretty good even though its only done by eye. but the inner side of the rears tires keep getting eaten up like no tomorrow!!!!
also when on the freeway sometimes it feels like the rear of the car wants to just slide out. im thinking they are toed out or something. is this the case? if so how can i adjust the stock rear toe arms? or do i HAVE to buy aftermarket adjustable ones?

[fckillerbee]

you did an alignment visually and expect it to be perfect. Your tire is driving on sandpaper....

[Pink Slut]

toe-in WAY to much, i have the same man. get some rear toe control arms (i need them too haha)

stock arms will NOT give you enough. i tried (i worked at a tire/alignment place)

[davidg01234]

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

you did an alignment visually and expect it to be perfect. Your tire is driving on sandpaper....

I'm not expecting perfection at all. I just wanna know if toe out is my problem and if so how can I adjust it until I feel like spending 120 on a custom alignment

[davidg01234]

Originally Posted by Pink Slut

toe-in WAY to much, i have the same man. get some rear toe control arms (i need them too haha)

Haha good to know I'm not alone! You sure its IN and not OUT?

[davidg01234]

Originally Posted by Pink Slut

toe-in WAY to much, i have the same man. get some rear toe control arms (i need them too haha)

stock arms will NOT give you enough. i tried (i worked at a tire/alignment place)

also which ones are you gonna go with?

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by davidg01234

I'm not expecting perfection at all. I just wanna know if toe out is my problem and if so how can I adjust it until I feel like spending 120 on a custom alignment

if the car is lowered at all. you will need rear toe. camber and toe go hand in hand. Stock has very little adjustments.

[davidg01234]

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

if the car is lowered at all. you will need rear toe. camber and toe go hand in hand. Stock has very little adjustments.

ok then ill just get some aftermarket toe arms and do it myself by eye lol anything to cut down on the tire wear just a little

[ZAKU]

Originally Posted by davidg01234

ok then ill just get some aftermarket toe arms and do it myself by eye lol anything to cut down on the tire wear just a little

Yeah... good luck with that. Do you understand that a proper alignment would completely stop your tire wear issues?

[davidg01234]

Originally Posted by ZAKU

Yeah... good luck with that. Do you understand that a proper alignment would completely stop your tire wear issues?

Yes I do. I will get an alignment as soon as I feel like spending that much on one

[fckillerbee]

Originally Posted by davidg01234

Yes I do. I will get an alignment as soon as I feel like spending that much on one

or you could keep buying tires?

[adrians_s13]

definitely get some rear toe arms. Once you lower your car (especially if you slam it), stock toe arms are useless as far as alignment goes. I have rucas and rear toe and I eye'ed my rear alignment (maybe about 3 months since I've last touched my rear suspension), and since then all seems well. I won't spend money on a real alignment because I'm not fully done with all my suspension arms purchase yet

[davidg01234]

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

or you could keep buying tires?

yes yes i know man i get it. Im gonna order some arms and do them by eye and then get a custom alignment a week or two later. customs alignments arent cheap

[davidg01234]

Originally Posted by adrians_s13

definitely get some rear toe arms. Once you lower your car (especially if you slam it), stock toe arms are useless as far as alignment goes. I have rucas and rear toe and I eye'ed my rear alignment (maybe about 3 months since I've last touched my rear suspension), and since then all seems well. I won't spend money on a real alignment because I'm not fully done with all my suspension arms purchase yet

so how has your tire wear been since you done it by eye? i mean yes i understand a real alignment is best but most people should be able to get it pretty damn close by eye. ive put new inner and outer tie rods on my front and lowered it and did it all by eye and my treads are PERFECT on the front

[Pink Slut]

i did my camber by eye, and it was off VERY little haha. if i would align a normal car wouldnt have changed it.
Toe in, deffo.

[davidg01234]

Originally Posted by Pink Slut

i did my camber by eye, and it was off VERY little haha. if i would align a normal car wouldnt have changed it.
Toe in, deffo.

Haha. OK so toe in wears the inside of the tire out? And toe out wears the outside of the tire out?

[Pink Slut]

not really, depends on camber etc aswell, camber/toe/etc, all is connected, change 1 of the, the rest changes aswell. THATS why a good alignment is so important

[davidg01234]

[QUOTE=Pink Slut;4792000]not really, depends on camber etc aswell, camber/toe/etc, all is connected, change 1 of the, the rest changes aswell. THATS why a good alignment is so important[/QUOTE

ya makes sense. thanks for your input man.

[adrians_s13]

Originally Posted by davidg01234

so how has your tire wear been since you done it by eye? i mean yes i understand a real alignment is best but most people should be able to get it pretty damn close by eye. ive put new inner and outer tie rods on my front and lowered it and did it all by eye and my treads are PERFECT on the front

Surprisingly, not much tire wear. It was just the rears tho..

[fliprayzin240sx]

Dont fucking eye ball the alignment. Atleast use a measuring tape and make sure you have zero toe. The rears may not be parallel to the fronts (track will be off) but atleast your tires wont die.

Measure the front of the tires across. Then measure the rear of the tire at roughly same height/point. If they are even, then you have no toe. You want it to be as close as possible, like down to the 1/32 of an inch.

[KA-Life86]

Jesus christ I don't charge enough for alignments

[fliprayzin240sx]

Originally Posted by KA-Life86

Jesus christ I don't charge enough for alignments

Thats what I'm saying...I paid $70 for my alignment at a small mom & pop shop out here. I told them I have aftermarket suspension and expected them to jack up the price. They said still $70. Had them set it to within factory specs, then just added more camber up front later down the road and slightly adjusted the toe to get them back to 0.

[davidg01234]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Dont fucking eye ball the alignment. Atleast use a measuring tape and make sure you have zero toe. The rears may not be parallel to the fronts (track will be off) but atleast your tires wont die.

Measure the front of the tires across. Then measure the rear of the tire at roughly same height/point. If they are even, then you have no toe. You want it to be as close as possible, like down to the 1/32 of an inch.

nice way of doing im gonna give that a shot

[davidg01234]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Thats what I'm saying...I paid $70 for my alignment at a small mom & pop shop out here. I told them I have aftermarket suspension and expected them to jack up the price. They said still $70. Had them set it to within factory specs, then just added more camber up front later down the road and slightly adjusted the toe to get them back to 0.

lucky you they all tell me no cuz its not factory suspension so i have to find a place thatll do a custom one

[Jonnie Fraz]

You could string align it.
home alignment? - Pelican Parts Technical BBS

[KrazyS13]

I go to the Firestone complete auto care by my house for my alignment.. I got the lifetime alignment service for 149.00(normally 169.00). Can take the car up there every month(for life) if I wanted too. Told them I had aftermarket arms and they didn't have a problem with that at all.

[davidg01234]

Originally Posted by KrazyS13

I go to the Firestone complete auto care by my house for my alignment.. I got the lifetime alignment service for 149.00(normally 169.00). Can take the car up there every month(for life) if I wanted too. Told them I had aftermarket arms and they didn't have a problem with that at all.

hmm ill give them a try too. pepboys, tildens, NTB, none of them would do it. thanks!