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3v1Ls14 · 04-01-2012, 09:14 PM

I did this today, running gate off turbo housing. will wait to weld flange when its all in car so i know what angle to put on etc

Pinggg · 04-19-2012, 03:40 PM

Anyone know if the EWG setup will clear my WG dump tube if i have a circuit sport brake heat shield install on my s13?

NISR20MO · 06-20-2012, 03:50 PM

PM'd looking to have this done, let me know man, thanks.

BlackZenkiS14 · 05-20-2013, 12:23 PM

Bringing this back from dead, because I'm getting interested in doing it. Trying too decide if its worth it to extrude hone it as well, while running a stock s14 t28?

That's a ton of cash right now, and I'm not sure it would be worth it. Also, what us the short most reliable wastegate everyone if buying these days?

Mile High Silvia · 08-31-2013, 09:52 PM

Where can I buy a brand new factory exhaust manifold? I have the tomei and It may be cracked. I like your setup alot, almost convinced on the gtx.
I'm sick of my internal wastegate. Shits weak.

EsChassisLove · 09-01-2013, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Silvia

Where can I buy a brand new factory exhaust manifold? I have the tomei and It may be cracked. I like your setup alot, almost convinced on the gtx.
I'm sick of my internal wastegate. Shits weak.

There's no reason to buy a brand new OEM manifold. BNIB OEM=/=USed. Have your Tomei fixed for $50. Easy day.

And extrude honing a stock manifold honestly is not worth it. You won't gain much response for the outrageous $500 price. You're better off honing your intake manifold for smoother air flow into your head.

External wastegate is the bomb. Had this setup on my 2871 bottom mount setup. Shits on internal gates all day long.

ProjectPanda13 · 09-01-2013, 06:48 AM

Would this setup fit a rhd setup with abs? I wonder if the external wastegate would conflict with the abs pump.

Thanks,
-Dave

Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk 2

Mile High Silvia · 09-01-2013, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EsChassisLove

There's no reason to buy a brand new OEM manifold. BNIB OEM=/=USed. Have your Tomei fixed for $50. Easy day.

And extrude honing a stock manifold honestly is not worth it. You won't gain much response for the outrageous $500 price. You're better off honing your intake manifold for smoother air flow into your head.

External wastegate is the bomb. Had this setup on my 2871 bottom mount setup. Shits on internal gates all day long.

Yep that's some good advice right there. I've just always been a fan of cast manifolds from my vw days of boosting "inline" 6 cylinders. Never had a problem with cast manis. But most def, fuck spending all that money. I should just weld a tial mvs to my housing and call it good

maybe get a gtx while I'm in there

mattsil80wis · 09-01-2013, 10:45 AM

Sure it seems expensive, but it is *the best* setup for the bottom mount GT and GTX turbos. The tubular manifolds are not built well enough (outside of a doc race maybe) to withstand the rigors of being in that spot. They really need better support structure to keep from cracking.

I went with the external for that reason as well. It ended up being cheaper than the tubular manifold, and hasn't given me an issue in years of abuse on track and street.

cured13 · 09-01-2013, 10:53 AM

this is definitely great setup but to make the best of it
what turbo elbow will be best to use with welded flapper?

Is this bigmouth style, no divider with 3" pipe still good

or is this smaller pipe actually better after cutting off and closing that screamer tube

mattsil80wis · 09-01-2013, 10:48 PM

The greddy turbo elbow works best

Divided sections but flow back together

Seraphim38 · 09-02-2013, 08:05 AM

Welded screamer pipes are extremely loud, for those of you who might not know.

If you want your car to yell, "LOOK AT ME" and be super loud every time you floor it, go for it.

Mile High Silvia · 09-02-2013, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattsil80wis

Sure it seems expensive, but it is *the best* setup for the bottom mount GT and GTX turbos. The tubular manifolds are not built well enough (outside of a doc race maybe) to withstand the rigors of being in that spot. They really need better support structure to keep from cracking.

I went with the external for that reason as well. It ended up being cheaper than the tubular manifold, and hasn't given me an issue in years of abuse on track and street.

Thanks for your insight. I like the doc race manifold alot but already have the tomei that came on the car. Should have some cash to blow in a few weeks. Will see what I end up doing then.

I do have a greddy elbow I could slap on the car or sell if anyone wants it

Mile High Silvia · 09-02-2013, 08:20 AM

I think my leak is coming from the Megan turbo elbow as it looks like the flange is warped. Would be nice if someone made a high quality vband setup. I love vbands

EsChassisLove · 09-02-2013, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Silvia

I think my leak is coming from the Megan turbo elbow as it looks like the flange is warped. Would be nice if someone made a high quality vband setup. I love vbands

Vband is the way to go. My entire exhaust is V Band from the turbine out. Minus the T3 flange. That's a very annoying place for a vband.

Mile High Silvia · 09-04-2013, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EsChassisLove

Vband is the way to go. My entire exhaust is V Band from the turbine out. Minus the T3 flange. That's a very annoying place for a vband.

got any pics of your setup? how are you liking the GTX? ive got the gt2860rs and thinking of upgrading to the new gtx wheel for faster spool. when do you hit full boost?

EsChassisLove · 09-04-2013, 06:50 PM

I'm actually on a GTX3076 .82. With no timing thrown at it I'm seeing 20psi at 4200.

I used to have this set up though on my 2871. That wasn't V Banded. Pain in my ass those 5 bolt turbo flanges were. Especially with the PBM flex cobra DP. That set up saw 1 bar at 3400, same timing as my current set up. Waiting to go E85 before we start advancing timing. Should bring spool down a few hundred rpm.

Mile High Silvia · 09-05-2013, 10:26 AM

Right on sounds good! Thanks for the info! I'm curious to see what the 3076 puts down.

I use my car for mainly drifting and canyon so the quick spool is really nice. I'd like to be spooling around 3000-3200, if possible. I read a guy with a precision hitting like 30psi at 3200 or some shit.

240ss · 11-08-2013, 03:25 PM

oh snap! can. not. fucking. wait!

bc. · 06-08-2015, 02:24 PM

On a setup like this, it should not matter where the wastegate outlet dumps back into the exhaust, correct? As far as AFR goes that is.. I want to plumb mine back in at my downpipe, but I put an aftermarket wideband detector there and want to know if I should put it downstream of that (or if it matters at all). Thanks.

BC

BlackZenkiS14 · 06-08-2015, 08:38 PM

Good god lol, don't worry about plumbing it back in! just DUMP IT!

NaughtyDawg63 · 08-22-2015, 05:53 AM

Is this service still beingredients offered?

Mile High Silvia · 10-23-2015, 03:39 AM

Just picked up a stock mani!

carcrazee · 04-25-2016, 06:25 PM

do you still do this stuff? been wanting this setup..

1angrykouki · 05-19-2017, 08:50 PM

Is this service still available, really want this set up, lmk!!

Psychomoongoose · 01-22-2018, 10:57 PM

Still available Codyace?

Emailed with no response as of yet.

TheRealSy90 · 01-23-2018, 10:18 AM

He still does them guys. For some reason Cody isn't able to post in this thread. Just PM him or maybe try to contact through Facebook.

04-01-2012, 09:14 PM	#61
3v1Ls14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New Zealand Age: 31 Posts: 85 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I did this today, running gate off turbo housing. will wait to weld flange when its all in car so i know what angle to put on etc Last edited by 3v1Ls14; 04-01-2012 at 09:49 PM..

05-20-2013, 12:23 PM	#64
BlackZenkiS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: "St. Chuck", MO Age: 38 Posts: 2,094 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	Bringing this back from dead, because I'm getting interested in doing it. Trying too decide if its worth it to extrude hone it as well, while running a stock s14 t28? That's a ton of cash right now, and I'm not sure it would be worth it. Also, what us the short most reliable wastegate everyone if buying these days? __________________ -Kyle

09-01-2013, 10:53 AM	#70
cured13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Almostthere Posts: 719 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	this is definitely great setup but to make the best of it what turbo elbow will be best to use with welded flapper? Is this bigmouth style, no divider with 3" pipe still good or is this smaller pipe actually better after cutting off and closing that screamer tube Last edited by cured13; 09-02-2013 at 01:04 PM..

09-02-2013, 08:05 AM	#72
Seraphim38 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Washington Posts: 810 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Welded screamer pipes are extremely loud, for those of you who might not know. If you want your car to yell, "LOOK AT ME" and be super loud every time you floor it, go for it. __________________ Mazworks \| HKS \| Greddy \| T4 GTX3076r \| Full Race \| Tial \| SPL \| Feal

09-04-2013, 06:50 PM	#77
EsChassisLove Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Diego Age: 35 Posts: 2,090 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	I'm actually on a GTX3076 .82. With no timing thrown at it I'm seeing 20psi at 4200. I used to have this set up though on my 2871. That wasn't V Banded. Pain in my ass those 5 bolt turbo flanges were. Especially with the PBM flex cobra DP. That set up saw 1 bar at 3400, same timing as my current set up. Waiting to go E85 before we start advancing timing. Should bring spool down a few hundred rpm. __________________ IG/TikTok-ThatS14_Z06guy

04-19-2012, 03:40 PM	#62
Pinggg Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Coconut Creek, Florida Age: 30 Posts: 1,255 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	Anyone know if the EWG setup will clear my WG dump tube if i have a circuit sport brake heat shield install on my s13?

06-20-2012, 03:50 PM	#63
NISR20MO Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Raleigh NC Age: 37 Posts: 490 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	PM'd looking to have this done, let me know man, thanks.

08-31-2013, 09:52 PM	#65
Mile High Silvia Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: nor co Posts: 137 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Where can I buy a brand new factory exhaust manifold? I have the tomei and It may be cracked. I like your setup alot, almost convinced on the gtx. I'm sick of my internal wastegate. Shits weak.

09-01-2013, 06:48 AM	#67
ProjectPanda13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 36 Posts: 636 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Would this setup fit a rhd setup with abs? I wonder if the external wastegate would conflict with the abs pump. Thanks, -Dave Sent from my SGH-T889 using Tapatalk 2

09-01-2013, 10:45 AM	#69
mattsil80wis Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nj Age: 37 Posts: 391 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Sure it seems expensive, but it is the best setup for the bottom mount GT and GTX turbos. The tubular manifolds are not built well enough (outside of a doc race maybe) to withstand the rigors of being in that spot. They really need better support structure to keep from cracking. I went with the external for that reason as well. It ended up being cheaper than the tubular manifold, and hasn't given me an issue in years of abuse on track and street.

09-01-2013, 10:48 PM	#71
mattsil80wis Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nj Age: 37 Posts: 391 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	The greddy turbo elbow works best Divided sections but flow back together

09-02-2013, 08:20 AM	#74
Mile High Silvia Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: nor co Posts: 137 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think my leak is coming from the Megan turbo elbow as it looks like the flange is warped. Would be nice if someone made a high quality vband setup. I love vbands

09-05-2013, 10:26 AM	#78
Mile High Silvia Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: nor co Posts: 137 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Right on sounds good! Thanks for the info! I'm curious to see what the 3076 puts down. I use my car for mainly drifting and canyon so the quick spool is really nice. I'd like to be spooling around 3000-3200, if possible. I read a guy with a precision hitting like 30psi at 3200 or some shit.

11-08-2013, 03:25 PM	#79
240ss Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: virginia Age: 33 Posts: 282 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	oh snap! can. not. fucking. wait!

06-08-2015, 02:24 PM	#80
bc. Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: St. Louis Posts: 868 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	On a setup like this, it should not matter where the wastegate outlet dumps back into the exhaust, correct? As far as AFR goes that is.. I want to plumb mine back in at my downpipe, but I put an aftermarket wideband detector there and want to know if I should put it downstream of that (or if it matters at all). Thanks. BC __________________ * S14SR22 * 9.0 c/r * GT3071R *

06-08-2015, 08:38 PM	#81
BlackZenkiS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: "St. Chuck", MO Age: 38 Posts: 2,094 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	Good god lol, don't worry about plumbing it back in! just DUMP IT! __________________ -Kyle

08-22-2015, 05:53 AM	#82
NaughtyDawg63 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta Age: 33 Posts: 24 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is this service still beingredients offered?

10-23-2015, 03:39 AM	#83
Mile High Silvia Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: nor co Posts: 137 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just picked up a stock mani!

04-25-2016, 06:25 PM	#84
carcrazee Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: failorida Posts: 236 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	do you still do this stuff? been wanting this setup..

05-19-2017, 08:50 PM	#85
1angrykouki Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Miami Age: 28 Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is this service still available, really want this set up, lmk!!

01-22-2018, 10:57 PM	#86
Psychomoongoose Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Age: 42 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: Psychomoongoose Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Still available Codyace? Emailed with no response as of yet. __________________ As long as you're not a ham-fisted retard there shouldn't be a problem.