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vinceqrbeast · 09-12-2010, 10:23 PM

hi everyone, i'm new to the site and i need some advice. I've got big plans for an sr20det redtop build. I've been looking up the tomei neo arms kit and idk if i'd be able to get that power with that kit. What are the requirements to achieve 500 hp mark? Sorry for being a noob about 240's.

i've got some parts down my list and feel free to cross out or add in some.

- tomei stroker (2.2L)
- gt35 56 trim BB by garrett
- power fc
-tomei valve springs and valves
-tomei cams (pro cam)

shiftdrift · 09-12-2010, 10:27 PM

that's all you need man, do it! search, this is zilvia, we won't spoon feed you.

Trevor87 · 09-12-2010, 10:35 PM

sounds like a dream and not reality

vinceqrbeast · 09-12-2010, 10:44 PM

i've had dreams that i made into reality and some i'm still working on. I think money talks at this moment. i'll be doing some searching. Meanwhile i just wanted to share that where i come from (hawaii) not many are into clean and fast -done right 240sx. My goal is to break that chain.

-wish me luck.

shiftdrift · 09-12-2010, 10:52 PM

you running on hopes and dreams?

TurboStrong · 09-12-2010, 11:09 PM

Lots of nitrous!!!!!

ross.cottrill · 09-13-2010, 05:42 AM

sleeved and built bottem end(might as well do 90mm)
stock ve head
30r or 35r and done...

*fliprayzin240sx* · 09-13-2010, 05:57 AM

My best advice...for as much money you'd have to throw to make this 500hp pipe dream a reality...don't go SR. Spend the money on an RB25/26, 2JZ or even a LSx swap. Go big or go home...

codyace · 09-13-2010, 08:02 AM

hahah ^^^ beat me to it.

If you're gonna dream, you may as well do it correctly.

xiaphin · 09-13-2010, 08:07 AM

agreed with ↑↑↑↑

speed equals cubic dollars - good luck

nathanong87 · 09-13-2010, 08:18 AM

all you need is money. with money you can build a 500hp prius motor and throw it in your car if you wanted.

HPKMotorsports3 · 09-13-2010, 08:37 AM

Good luck man any pics of your shell?

K_style · 09-13-2010, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

My best advice...for as much money you'd have to throw to make this 500hp pipe dream a reality...don't go SR. Spend the money on an RB25/26, 2JZ or even a LSx swap. Go big or go home...

Agreed..
Unless if you are just dreaming it.. and never even come close to it in future like most other dreamers...

240sx123$ · 09-13-2010, 01:15 PM

IBTL.

A 500hp SR would be no fun.

5500rpm of spooling, 1000rpm of actual power...

!Zar! · 09-13-2010, 01:24 PM

What makes you want 500hp?

TurboStrong · 09-13-2010, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240sx123$

IBTL.

A 500hp SR would be no fun.

5500rpm of spooling, 1000rpm of actual power...

Can anybody agree with this???

nissanfreak317 · 09-13-2010, 01:27 PM

Don't know for sure ^^

But it seems like shooting for 500 on the SR is pointless. If you are going big, do as they say. RB or LS. Now, if you find that your budget will not allow that, then a 350-400 hp SR might be right for you. Are you planning on competing with this car or simply driving around on the weekends and showing off?

240sx123$ · 09-13-2010, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboStrong

Can anybody agree with this???

Lol, obviously im exaggerating a little bit. The point i was making was that to attain 500hp from a 2 liter 4 cylinder will give you a ridiculously unusable powerband. You can get it to PEAK at 500hp, but who cares about peak HP when youre still getting walked by 350whp LS1's? The point i'm making is that high horsepower doesnt necessarily equal a fast car. If youre only making that 500hp in 10% of your rev range, the car is still going to be slower than something making less power, but in a BROADER range.

Useable power > High HP dyno numbers.

If I was looking at two identical cars for sale, one with a 350whp SR and one with a 500whp SR, practically speaking- id rather have the 350whp. Id rather be able to tap into my power under normal driving conditions, rather than having to rev the piss out of it to make it go. Not to mention the 500hp SR is gonna be a DOG under normal driving conditions (read: when not in boost).

Siberian Husky · 09-13-2010, 01:33 PM

OP, that power range is better suited for a larger engine. as others have said, rb or ls would be the way to go.

and 500 sounds a bit arbitrary. i too am a newb, but I can at least admit that I dont even know the difference between 350, 450, or 500 hp. my fastest car was an rb swapped hatch, and i dont know the numbers it pulled but I can say it was damn fast. it was stock so it couldnt have been doing more than 270 to the wheels. 500 though...thats just retarted unless you have some specific application.

nissanfreak317 · 09-13-2010, 02:29 PM

Which leads us to the real question...

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Zar!

What makes you want 500hp?

Weedm · 09-13-2010, 02:43 PM

500hp is what you need to power an s-chassis into space.

playastarkz123 · 09-13-2010, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240sx123$

IBTL.

A 500hp SR would be no fun.

5500rpm of spooling, 1000rpm of actual power...

I cant 100 percent agree with this statement, Ross Petty's sr makes 586whp and im willing to bet that his car along many other sr's i have seen over the 500hp is a hell of a lot of fun to drive

ofcourse this car has had a considerable amount work done to it with a very high price tag, but if you got the money to do it right a 500hp sr would be very enjoyable

CAR FEATURE>>THE GARAGE BOSO S15 - Speedhunters

shiftdrift · 09-13-2010, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

My best advice... 2JZ. Go big or go home...

that's what i just purchased

K_style · 09-13-2010, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by playastarkz123

I cant 100 percent agree with this statement, Ross Petty's sr makes 586whp and im willing to bet that his car along many other sr's i have seen over the 500hp is a hell of a lot of fun to drive

ofcourse this car has had a considerable amount work done to it with a very high price tag, but if you got the money to do it right a 500hp sr would be very enjoyable

CAR FEATURE>>THE GARAGE BOSO S15 - Speedhunters

It's all about the tune...

Frank said their car make around 460whp last January,,, and it beats shit out of 500+ hp cars...

!Zar! · 09-13-2010, 03:29 PM

I want a 500hp dildo.

ross.cottrill · 09-13-2010, 03:40 PM

all you guys preach on how cool it is to slap a 2871r on your mildly built sr,when the truth of the matter is that you can have the same response but with waay more power being setup properly.a 2871r even with a .64 a/r,cams and in intake manifold is going to hit full spooll around 4700 rpms and only make like 340 rwhp and even shittier torque.now if you look at (forum member)WHITEY240,he has a bone stock sr with a bone stock ve/vvl bottom end.spooling a little sooner and making 500 rwhp and good torque.its all about approach and doing things right!!is going to cost you?YES,you gotta pay to play.to get good power out of any powerplant(with the exception of a 2j lol)your going to have to spend a good amout of money for it to produce good power reliably...

omgRWDgoodness! · 09-13-2010, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weedm

500hp is what you need to power an s-chassis into space.

Quote of the week.

udon! · 09-13-2010, 04:12 PM

Just buy this.

Rawrzies · 09-13-2010, 10:59 PM

Dream big = LS1. I don't think we even have an LS1 240sx here on the islands yet.

killer240 · 09-13-2010, 11:09 PM

hmmm 500hp SR

09-12-2010, 10:23 PM	#1
vinceqrbeast Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: honolulu Age: 36 Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	500 hp redtop hi everyone, i'm new to the site and i need some advice. I've got big plans for an sr20det redtop build. I've been looking up the tomei neo arms kit and idk if i'd be able to get that power with that kit. What are the requirements to achieve 500 hp mark? Sorry for being a noob about 240's. i've got some parts down my list and feel free to cross out or add in some. - tomei stroker (2.2L) - gt35 56 trim BB by garrett - power fc -tomei valve springs and valves -tomei cams (pro cam)

09-12-2010, 10:27 PM	#2
shiftdrift Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: indiana Age: 33 Posts: 2,242 Trader Rating: (42) Feedback Score: 42 reviews	that's all you need man, do it! search, this is zilvia, we won't spoon feed you. __________________ SW Fab

09-12-2010, 10:52 PM	#5
shiftdrift Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: indiana Age: 33 Posts: 2,242 Trader Rating: (42) Feedback Score: 42 reviews	you running on hopes and dreams? __________________ SW Fab

09-12-2010, 11:09 PM	#6
TurboStrong Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: L.A Posts: 1,707 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	Lots of nitrous!!!!! __________________

09-13-2010, 05:42 AM	#7
ross.cottrill Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 1,185 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	sleeved and built bottem end(might as well do 90mm) stock ve head 30r or 35r and done... __________________ " NEO VVL BABY FTMFW!" Originally Posted by shagspeed Dude if I made 500WHP on a 54C SR20DET back in 1999-2000 with old school technology .. This VET will T-BAG your RB engines

09-12-2010, 10:35 PM	#3
Trevor87 Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: vancouver Posts: 108 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sounds like a dream and not reality

09-12-2010, 10:44 PM	#4
vinceqrbeast Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: honolulu Age: 36 Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i've had dreams that i made into reality and some i'm still working on. I think money talks at this moment. i'll be doing some searching. Meanwhile i just wanted to share that where i come from (hawaii) not many are into clean and fast -done right 240sx. My goal is to break that chain. -wish me luck.

09-13-2010, 05:57 AM	#8
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	My best advice...for as much money you'd have to throw to make this 500hp pipe dream a reality...don't go SR. Spend the money on an RB25/26, 2JZ or even a LSx swap. Go big or go home... __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

09-13-2010, 08:02 AM	#9
codyace Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poconos, PA Age: 39 Posts: 8,030 Trader Rating: (58) Feedback Score: 58 reviews	hahah ^^^ beat me to it. If you're gonna dream, you may as well do it correctly. __________________ *Want Air Conditioning in your SR20 Swapped car? Check out www.sr20acbrackets.com for more information! Quest Alternator Conversions for SR20!* Check my Group Buy! Tired of lousy internal gates? Go external wastegate with one of my manifolds, Check out my group buy

09-13-2010, 08:07 AM	#10
xiaphin Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pleasanton Age: 40 Posts: 451 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	agreed with ↑↑↑↑ speed equals cubic dollars - good luck __________________ 2018 Audi RS 3 \| Unitronic Stage 1 ECU and Stage 2 TCU tune

09-13-2010, 08:18 AM	#11
nathanong87 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: maryland Age: 36 Posts: 5,182 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	all you need is money. with money you can build a 500hp prius motor and throw it in your car if you wanted. __________________ IG @nathanong87 --- Night ★ Life natelife.tumblr.com

09-13-2010, 08:37 AM	#12
HPKMotorsports3 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 688 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Good luck man any pics of your shell?

09-13-2010, 01:15 PM	#14
240sx123$ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA Posts: 603 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	IBTL. A 500hp SR would be no fun. 5500rpm of spooling, 1000rpm of actual power...

09-13-2010, 01:24 PM	#15
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	What makes you want 500hp? __________________

09-13-2010, 01:27 PM	#17
nissanfreak317 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Souderton, PA Age: 38 Posts: 597 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Don't know for sure ^^ But it seems like shooting for 500 on the SR is pointless. If you are going big, do as they say. RB or LS. Now, if you find that your budget will not allow that, then a 350-400 hp SR might be right for you. Are you planning on competing with this car or simply driving around on the weekends and showing off?

09-13-2010, 01:33 PM	#19
Siberian Husky Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: CA Posts: 411 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	OP, that power range is better suited for a larger engine. as others have said, rb or ls would be the way to go. and 500 sounds a bit arbitrary. i too am a newb, but I can at least admit that I dont even know the difference between 350, 450, or 500 hp. my fastest car was an rb swapped hatch, and i dont know the numbers it pulled but I can say it was damn fast. it was stock so it couldnt have been doing more than 270 to the wheels. 500 though...thats just retarted unless you have some specific application.

09-13-2010, 02:43 PM	#21
Weedm Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle / Portland Age: 32 Posts: 902 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	500hp is what you need to power an s-chassis into space. __________________

09-13-2010, 03:29 PM	#25
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I want a 500hp dildo. __________________

09-13-2010, 03:40 PM	#26
ross.cottrill Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 1,185 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	all you guys preach on how cool it is to slap a 2871r on your mildly built sr,when the truth of the matter is that you can have the same response but with waay more power being setup properly.a 2871r even with a .64 a/r,cams and in intake manifold is going to hit full spooll around 4700 rpms and only make like 340 rwhp and even shittier torque.now if you look at (forum member)WHITEY240,he has a bone stock sr with a bone stock ve/vvl bottom end.spooling a little sooner and making 500 rwhp and good torque.its all about approach and doing things right!!is going to cost you?YES,you gotta pay to play.to get good power out of any powerplant(with the exception of a 2j lol)your going to have to spend a good amout of money for it to produce good power reliably... __________________ " NEO VVL BABY FTMFW!" Originally Posted by shagspeed Dude if I made 500WHP on a 54C SR20DET back in 1999-2000 with old school technology .. This VET will T-BAG your RB engines

09-13-2010, 04:12 PM	#28
udon! Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So-Cal Posts: 2,025 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Just buy this.

09-13-2010, 10:59 PM	#29
Rawrzies Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Honolulu Posts: 28 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dream big = LS1. I don't think we even have an LS1 240sx here on the islands yet.

09-13-2010, 11:09 PM	#30
killer240 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pair of dice, Norcal Age: 33 Posts: 2,621 Trader Rating: (24) Feedback Score: 24 reviews	hmmm 500hp SR __________________ REVIEW