using computer game to practice drifting

[xagna]

I am thinking about practicing drifting with computer or game console racing game.
How much practical and helpful do you think this would be? Besides money...

Do you any of you practice your drifting with computer or game console games?

Any racing or driving simulation do you recommand for this?

[wootwoot]

To practice drifting I recommend going in some grass, gravel, or a wet empty road parking lot. F video games for that, its about feel with drifting. Thats how I feel atleast.

[Ian]

yeah, unless you're studying a racing line for a specific track, video games really arent gonna teach you anything

[JDMs13]

^^^
what they said.....

gran turismo 3 though.

[blackflag_Rms13]

I like driftin in games like GT4 etc but I would never ever even think about trying to learn/practice in it. Its relatively unrealistic and no matter how good the physics are it won't teach you jack shit, especially without a wheel (Note: having a wheel does not change what I said)

[NZO]

People are quick to hate on video games but honestly if you say they won't teach you anything you're simply overstating the truth. Of course they aren't a replacement for real driving but you can learn a lot about general concepts of car dynamics if you dont have a lot of driving experience.

[blaze1]

This thing a 60inch and your set

[SimpleSexy180]

Originally Posted by blaze1

This thing a 60inch and your set

wow no clutch, GFG!


hey blaze....what kind of car do you drive? im from moval too

[blaze1]

im working on getting a Turbo2 FC at the moment whats your name, i might know you.

[blaze1]

I had a SOHC auto 240 for a while, usto drive it for like beggening of summer up too 2 weeks ago. Sold it for double the price i got it, i didnt drive it a whole lot.

[HyperTek]

you can learn alot from video games... racing lines, wieght transfer etc... Gran Turismo games are not the best tho, try Enthusia for PS2, better physics.. and Live For Speed for PC http://www.liveforspeed.net/?page=fp

[rrobe99999]

Originally Posted by downshift180

wow no clutch, GFG!

What games do you play that have a clutch button?

[chlatboy]

Originally Posted by rrobe99999

What games do you play that have a clutch button?

Im still waiting for one to come out.

[Dousan_PG]

d1gp whatever jdm game has a clutch button.
but only for clutch kicks,not shifting
it rules.

[MELLO*SOS]

Originally Posted by HyperTek

you can learn alot from video games... racing lines, wieght transfer etc... Gran Turismo games are not the best tho, try Enthusia for PS2, better physics.. and Live For Speed for PC http://www.liveforspeed.net/?page=fp

Yeah try "Live For Speed s2" racing simulator... it has clutch capability too.

[HyperTek]

enthusia has a clutch.. can do donuts =D.. id like to see someone do donuts in gran turismo.. hehe

[Var]

I literally learned how to drift playing GT3. I recommend you to practice for hours on end with car setup and everything. Once i made it out to the real track i learned really fast.

[SDS14Driver]

Sigh...

Very interesting comments in this post. You have to understand that a video game is designed for entertainment value, not for simulation purposes. Do you think that astronauts train for space travel by playing a couple hours of starwars tie fighter each night? It just doesn't work that way...

I'll stick with that example:

Simulating a 0 gravity environment by flying up and diving down is the best they can do and that's not even a real world situation... GT4 or anything built for entertainment value can teach you NOTHING about the feeling of a real world driving experience, let alone the dynamics of drift. You have 0 fear when tapping the L1 button when entering a corner at high speed. (get where i'm going...?)

If you want to learn anything in this world, you need experience, even textbooks are limited. (Which is why many college degrees won't make you any money w/o experience)

If you're serious about learning, put down the controller, stop watching initial D reruns and look up a driving school's actual cirriculum to get an idea of what needs to happen for the average driving rookie to become a drifter. If you like what you see, enroll.

Simple as that.

Using a computer game to "practice" drifting will get you or somebody else KILLED. [Period]

[Var]

Originally Posted by SDS14Driver

Sigh...

Very interesting comments in this post. You have to understand that a video game is designed for entertainment value, not for simulation purposes. Do you think that astronauts train for space travel by playing a couple hours of starwars tie fighter each night? It just doesn't work that way...

I'll stick with that example:

Simulating a 0 gravity environment by flying up and diving down is the best they can do and that's not even a real world situation... GT4 or anything built for entertainment value can teach you NOTHING about the feeling of a real world driving experience, let alone the dynamics of drift. You have 0 fear when tapping the L1 button when entering a corner at high speed. (get where i'm going...?)

If you want to learn anything in this world, you need experience, even textbooks are limited. (Which is why many college degrees won't make you any money w/o experience)

If you're serious about learning, put down the controller, stop watching initial D reruns and look up a driving school's actual cirriculum to get an idea of what needs to happen for the average driving rookie to become a drifter. If you like what you see, enroll.

Simple as that.

Using a computer game to "practice" drifting will get you or somebody else KILLED. [Period]

everything is so matter-of-fact in your statement. And you're so wrong. GT3 is one of the most realistic driving engines as far as drifting goes. It teaches you good feel. Even alignment changes accurately affect the car's dynamics. Comparing it to astronauts and Tie Fighter is stupid and not a good analogy, cause tie fighter isn't supposed to be realstic. Considering there are no such thing as
1-Tie Fighters
2-Dogfights in Outer Space

Granted i DID have driving and motorcycle riding experience before i picked up the game, but it did teach me do's and dont's for drifting.

Obviously you dont want to have 0 driving experience, play a video game, then go try to race. What i'm saying may or may not apply to the thread starter, the readers, or you but it applied to me and i'm sharing my experience truthfully. So my point is that dont disreguard something i said like i'm lying or like you are the authority on driving.

BTW GT3 was supposed to be a driving simulator. I've seen the making of it and read about it too, and the people who made the game were very set on making it as real as possible.

[yudalicious]

I think it can be generalized from all the above posts that
if you don't know how to drift in real life, GT3 (or any other game, for that matter) drifting isn't gonna magically make you drift in real life.

[Var]

Originally Posted by yudalicious

I think it can be generalized from all the above posts that
if you don't know how to drift in real life, GT3 (or any other game, for that matter) drifting isn't gonna magically make you drift in real life.

Maybe if you worded it like this i would agree.

If you dont know how to drive in real life, GT3(or any other game, for that matter) is not going to teach you.

I think if you can drive and know the physics of your car, it will definitely get you half way there or more.

Again..this is my opinion and i'm gonna stand by it.

[SDS14Driver]

Originally Posted by yudalicious

I think it can be generalized from all the above posts that
if you don't know how to drift in real life, GT3 (or any other game, for that matter) drifting isn't gonna magically make you drift in real life.

Exactly.

I'm just a visitor here in the Chat section of the zilvia world. Threads like these are exactly why i stay the hell away.

GT3 is a great driving video game, granted. But please, find me a pro racer of any sort who will fuckin testify that video game practice is a good means of gaining real world driving skill and ill hand you the keys to my car...

[Var]

Why do you need a pro driver to tell you? I'm telling you. I'm not a pro, but i drift on the track. I've told you twice already. It helped my learning curve drastically and it helped me tune my touge car too as far as spring rates and alignment.

[SDS14Driver]

I'm asking for a pro because they've refined the techniques necessary to be a damn pro. Not to rip on your "skill" or anything pal, but you're not a pro, and you say you've developed your driving techniques from a playstation 2 video game; so forgive me for not finding your sources crediable enough.

If a pro racer on the other hand, who knows what it takes to get to that level gives a video game his or her endorsement for learning to improve then shit, i'll be the first to stand corrected. Until that happens, happy gaming and good luck with your driving carreer.

[Var]

I'm asking for a pro because they've refined the techniques necessary to be a damn pro. Not to rip on your "skill" or anything pal, but you're not a pro,
I was the first to say that i wasn't

and you say you've developed your driving techniques from a playstation 2 video game; so forgive me for not finding that crediable enough.
I developed my driving skill on the racetrack, and used the GT3 driving simulator an aid to understand the physics of it in the beginning.

If a pro racer on the other hand, who knows what it takes to get to that level gives a video game his or her endorsement for learning to improve then shit, i'll be the first to stand corrected.
If a pro endorses something, i automatically dont believe it, cause it's an endorsement. But that's just me i guess.

Until that happens, happy gaming and good luck with your driving carreer.
Thanks. If i qualify for Formula D next year i'll be sure to make a mention of Gran Turismo 3.

[MakotoS13]

Originally Posted by SDS14Driver

If a pro racer on the other hand, who knows what it takes to get to that level gives a video game his or her endorsement for learning to improve then shit, i'll be the first to stand corrected. Until that happens, happy gaming and good luck with your driving carreer.

what makes a pro a pro? INCOME derived from the event they are participating in. good drivers are all over the place, getting paid for it doesn't make you a good drive. i guess you also believe that only good bands are famous too or that astronauts are geeks for using simulators before the real thing in space.

you're fuggin out of your gourd and its about time you go home.

[Pank]

Originally Posted by SDS14Driver

Exactly.

I'm just a visitor here in the Chat section of the zilvia world. Threads like these are exactly why i stay the hell away.

GT3 is a great driving video game, granted. But please, find me a pro racer of any sort who will fuckin testify that video game practice is a good means of gaining real world driving skill and ill hand you the keys to my car...

Find me a pro who says its useless, and i'll give you the keys to MY car.
its pretty obvious you're not a "pro level driver"

and dont act like you hate the chat section of zilvia, but instead post a lot of super helpful stuff in tech, because you dont, you have 88 posts.

continue lurking, and keep your high and mighty bullshit for 240sx.org

[wootwoot]

Remember when two drivers switched places in f1 and NASCAR as a publicity stunt? I cant remember who the drivers were, but it was fun to watch. Whoever drove the f1 car in NASCAR would have placed in the first 1/4 of the pack and who was driving the f1 car from NASCAR would have finished about 4 seconds behind the pack(which is still really really good). But thats not the point I'm getting at. My point is that the f1 driver was said to have practiced on video games before any exerience in the car. It can teach you extreme basic things, thats it. I mean, its a silly question to ask really. I still vote for empty field/gravel/empty wet parking lot.

[aa87]

Video games will give you the basic idea to use a steering wheel, but its completely different, so many things can affect a driver, g's, bumps, etc,

I personally feel gt3 had no feel at all, very unrealistic, in terms of real car driving, grip driving was ok, but once you go trying to ebrake/power over or anything, it has no physics similar to that of driving.

[boycelaforest707]

F1 drivers train on simulators in off season......