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95KA-Turbo · 05-20-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred Allen Burge

Love it!

315mm on a 10" wheel is pushing it isn't it? Do you think I could safely fit them on a 9.75" wheel or is that pretty much going too far?

Are you talking 17s or 18s?

You could do a 285/35/18 or 295/35/17......it'll be bubbled as shit either way.

Fred Allen Burge · 05-20-2011, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

Are you talking 17s or 18s?

You could do a 285/35/18 or 295/35/17......it'll be bubbled as shit either way.

17s

They don't offer a lot of size options in the kind of tires I'm looking at, street drag radials. Most of them jump from a 275 to a 315 which is what I really want...might have to widen my rear wheels to get it done.

gsracer · 05-20-2011, 09:31 PM

Havent posted here in a while

all pics these pics are stock pulled kouki front fenders and 50mm wide body rears

18x10 +18 front
265/35/18

18x11 +18 rear
295- 315/30/18s

some varstoens

18 x9.5 +15 front
265/25/18

18 x 10.5 +15 rear with 8mm spacers in rear
315/30/18

The og zenki
same specs as the works above just on stock quarters with a massive pull

and just because

SicBastard · 05-21-2011, 12:40 AM

Does it understeer like a pig with the 265/315 stagger? At least until you light up the rear...

gsracer · 05-21-2011, 06:00 AM

not really.. i dont think i have ever felt the car understeer except when it was raining on the track or i ran realy shitty tires.

With the Vlsd it did understeer a bit however once i got the two way it didnt do it anymore.

SicBastard · 05-21-2011, 05:27 PM

So is it just really well balanced, or is it all oversteer all the time? One end has to slide first!

gsracer · 05-21-2011, 05:44 PM

id say very well balanced, but if you push it, the back end most definitly kicks out first,

Broadfield · 05-21-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SicBastard

Does it understeer like a pig with the 265/315 stagger? At least until you light up the rear...

I run 245/285 and love it.

Keep in mind, the new Porsche GT3 RS runs a 245/325 stagger.

BlazedGlory · 05-22-2011, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Broadfield

I run 245/285 and love it.

Keep in mind, the new Porsche GT3 RS runs a 245/325 stagger.

Isn't the engine in the rear though? How's the weight distribution?

SicBastard · 05-22-2011, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Broadfield

I run 245/285 and love it.

Keep in mind, the new Porsche GT3 RS runs a 245/325 stagger.

993 RS has spring rates of 246 f /457r

Can you imagine running springs in the rear of a 240sx that were 40% stiffer than the front!!?

That's what it takes to make a porsche handle near balanced.

I'd suggest that to have truely balanced handling you'd have to run some pretty unconventional spring rates with a big stagger on a 240sx. And that you're probably better off getting as much tire up front as you're craming in the back.

MyblackS13 · 05-22-2011, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SicBastard

993 RS has spring rates of 246 f /457r

Can you imagine running springs in the rear of a 240sx that were 40% stiffer than the front!!?

That's what it takes to make a porsche handle near balanced.

I'd suggest that to have truely balanced handling you'd have to run some pretty unconventional spring rates with a big stagger on a 240sx. And that you're probably better off getting as much tire up front as you're craming in the back.

I think the difference in the F - R spring rates in the Porsche have more to do with the approximately 40/60 front to rear weight distribution and the fact that the engine is behind axle on the Porsche. Our cars are closer to 50/50 (googled 56-44) with a little more on the front with more of the engine weight rear of the center line of the front wheels. Another good staggered example is the 2011 Corvette Z06, it runs 275 f - 325 r, which is really close to the stagger of gsracer's setup.

stlthftr1 · 05-23-2011, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MyblackS13

@stlthftr1 - The fit on that stock body S13 looks amazing, did you have to do a lot of inner fender modification or tubs to get the fronts in?

in the front i relocated my harness further up and bent back the metal tab that is the "seam" i suppose, rolled front and, rolled and slightly pulled rear .

thanks for the compliments, i may be selling my s30z and S13 today...we'll see what i get to play with in the future.

S@nt0s · 05-23-2011, 08:14 AM

"we need to change the stereotype that S chassis cars are only good for the slammed look or drift. It's unfortunately a small crowd but people don't know what they are missing."

i agree, i am always asked that isnt for drifting, i say i dont do that figure skater shit lol
im going for grip/tire but in a different way

15x8 Weld RT's
235/60R15 but measured out is a 26'' x 9.5''

17x4.5 Weld Alumastars M&H 185/55

Fred Allen Burge · 05-23-2011, 01:36 PM

Hey Santos, what offset on the rears and are those M/T ET street radials?

Super clean coupe by the way, love it!

S@nt0s · 05-23-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred Allen Burge

Hey Santos, what offset on the rears and are those M/T ET street radials?

Super clean coupe by the way, love it!

Thank you
the rears are a 5.5" backspace making them a +25 i believe and the tires are indeed ET streets

db_s13 · 05-23-2011, 08:55 PM

hey santos what is the size and backspacing do you have on your 1200

S@nt0s · 05-23-2011, 09:53 PM

I no longer have the datsun but it was a narrowed mini van rear end and the rear wheels were 15/8 with a 4.5 backspace I believe With 24.5-9 m&h slicks

godzillarb · 05-24-2011, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Allen Burge

Love it!

315mm on a 10" wheel is pushing it isn't it? Do you think I could safely fit them on a 9.75" wheel or is that pretty much going too far?

Depends on the tire. I'm running Nitto DRs which are known to be a little narrow. But yes, you're supposed to have a 10.5 to run these tires on a 17". I've heard of Mustang guys running these on a 9" wide, but that just seems scary to me. 9.75 would probably be safe, as long as you didn't run stupidly low tire pressure.

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Originally Posted by 95KA-Turbo

Are you talking 17s or 18s?

You could do a 285/35/18 or 295/35/17......it'll be bubbled as shit either way.

I don't think my tires are too bubbled. 295 would probably look better though. Too bad they don't make the Nittos in that size (last time I checked)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Allen Burge

17s

They don't offer a lot of size options in the kind of tires I'm looking at, street drag radials. Most of them jump from a 275 to a 315 which is what I really want...might have to widen my rear wheels to get it done.

If you're getting the Nittos, I'd say go for it. If you get M/Ts, I'd get a wider wheel.

caLi2fortee · 05-24-2011, 09:52 PM

Picked up a set of G35 wheels for really cheap. Wheel specs are 17x7.5 +25 [effectively after 20mm spacers] all around. Dropped on Tanabe Pro5's with aftermaket arms, rolled fenders all around. Whats the widest tires I can go with these wheels? Planning on getting 235/45 or 245/40 all around. Any opinions?

SicBastard · 05-25-2011, 12:07 AM

Please look at the tire manufactureres reccomendations for the billionth time.

Per the tirerack and Kumho, the XS 245/45/17 narrowest rec wheel is 7.5"

Kumho Ecsta XS

caLi2fortee · 05-26-2011, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SicBastard

Please look at the tire manufactureres reccomendations for the billionth time.

Per the tirerack and Kumho, the XS 245/45/17 narrowest rec wheel is 7.5"

Kumho Ecsta XS

thank you

WISH ONE · 05-28-2011, 08:18 PM

is anyone running a 275/35 all around?
or a 275/285 or 265/275
35 wall

stlthftr1 · 05-29-2011, 07:51 AM

i was running 265/285/35

qwerth · 06-16-2011, 08:34 PM

loving the meaty look on the s13 "s@nt0s"

mantas · 06-17-2011, 12:01 PM

Running 235/35/18 front and 265/35/28 rear, was running 275 in the rear and 245 front with just rolled fenders, no flaring, could have fit a 285 in the rear but tires cost too damn much in those odd sizes.

Fred Allen Burge · 06-21-2011, 09:49 AM

So I decided on 275/40/17 Nitto Nt05 for the rears on these wheels (17x9.75") and I'm super happy with the size of tire for the wheel. It's got the exact square-ness I was after and is super beefy!

I'll post pics on the car when I get the project that far along. I also went with Nitto Nt05 on the front but in 255/40/17 and they look great too, not too different than the rears just a slight roundness to the sidewall.

Flicktitty · 06-21-2011, 10:07 AM

get them on the car

They going on a s13 or s14?

Fred Allen Burge · 06-21-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Flicktitty

get them on the car

They going on a s13 or s14?

S13:

Can't wait to tear into her!

ROIDMONKEY · 06-21-2011, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Allen Burge

S13:

Can't wait to tear into her!

NICE WHEELS...WHAT SIZES? lol

Seraphim38 · 06-21-2011, 03:46 PM

I love my 275/40/17 Nitto NT05s on the rear of my S13 hatch. Far better traction than the 255 Azenis I used to have.

05-20-2011, 09:31 PM	#1893
gsracer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami Age: 40 Posts: 1,590 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Havent posted here in a while all pics these pics are stock pulled kouki front fenders and 50mm wide body rears 18x10 +18 front 265/35/18 18x11 +18 rear 295- 315/30/18s some varstoens 18 x9.5 +15 front 265/25/18 18 x 10.5 +15 rear with 8mm spacers in rear 315/30/18 The og zenki same specs as the works above just on stock quarters with a massive pull and just because __________________ ANTI-STRETCH NAZI Vortech Supercharged Vh45de S14 V8nissans.com Last edited by gsracer; 05-21-2011 at 08:26 PM..

05-21-2011, 12:40 AM	#1894
SicBastard Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 803 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Does it understeer like a pig with the 265/315 stagger? At least until you light up the rear... __________________ BURN OUT IN YOUR FACE! 1998 S14 LS7/T56 swap in progress, build thread: http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/147301...d-gto-pan.html

05-21-2011, 06:00 AM	#1895
gsracer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami Age: 40 Posts: 1,590 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	not really.. i dont think i have ever felt the car understeer except when it was raining on the track or i ran realy shitty tires. With the Vlsd it did understeer a bit however once i got the two way it didnt do it anymore. __________________ ANTI-STRETCH NAZI Vortech Supercharged Vh45de S14 V8nissans.com

05-21-2011, 05:27 PM	#1896
SicBastard Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 803 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So is it just really well balanced, or is it all oversteer all the time? One end has to slide first! __________________ BURN OUT IN YOUR FACE! 1998 S14 LS7/T56 swap in progress, build thread: http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/147301...d-gto-pan.html

05-21-2011, 05:44 PM	#1897
gsracer Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami Age: 40 Posts: 1,590 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	id say very well balanced, but if you push it, the back end most definitly kicks out first, __________________ ANTI-STRETCH NAZI Vortech Supercharged Vh45de S14 V8nissans.com

05-23-2011, 08:14 AM	#1903
S@nt0s Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 310 all day! Age: 43 Posts: 912 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	"we need to change the stereotype that S chassis cars are only good for the slammed look or drift. It's unfortunately a small crowd but people don't know what they are missing." i agree, i am always asked that isnt for drifting, i say i dont do that figure skater shit lol im going for grip/tire but in a different way 15x8 Weld RT's 235/60R15 but measured out is a 26'' x 9.5'' 17x4.5 Weld Alumastars M&H 185/55

05-23-2011, 01:36 PM	#1904
Fred Allen Burge Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri Age: 44 Posts: 524 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Hey Santos, what offset on the rears and are those M/T ET street radials? Super clean coupe by the way, love it! __________________ Silvia, built 5.3 turbo, 4l80e, 9.8@142

05-23-2011, 08:55 PM	#1906
db_s13 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: OKC, OK Age: 35 Posts: 54 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	hey santos what is the size and backspacing do you have on your 1200

05-23-2011, 09:53 PM	#1907
S@nt0s Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 310 all day! Age: 43 Posts: 912 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I no longer have the datsun but it was a narrowed mini van rear end and the rear wheels were 15/8 with a 4.5 backspace I believe With 24.5-9 m&h slicks

05-24-2011, 09:52 PM	#1909
caLi2fortee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SOCAL Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Picked up a set of G35 wheels for really cheap. Wheel specs are 17x7.5 +25 [effectively after 20mm spacers] all around. Dropped on Tanabe Pro5's with aftermaket arms, rolled fenders all around. Whats the widest tires I can go with these wheels? Planning on getting 235/45 or 245/40 all around. Any opinions?

05-25-2011, 12:07 AM	#1910
SicBastard Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 803 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Please look at the tire manufactureres reccomendations for the billionth time. Per the tirerack and Kumho, the XS 245/45/17 narrowest rec wheel is 7.5" Kumho Ecsta XS __________________ BURN OUT IN YOUR FACE! 1998 S14 LS7/T56 swap in progress, build thread: http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/147301...d-gto-pan.html

05-28-2011, 08:18 PM	#1912
WISH ONE Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Posts: 2,738 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	is anyone running a 275/35 all around? or a 275/285 or 265/275 35 wall __________________ PARTING/SELLING MY COUPE. PM ME.

05-29-2011, 07:51 AM	#1913
stlthftr1 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: florida Age: 38 Posts: 142 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i was running 265/285/35 __________________ TEAM NO PULLOUT !!!

06-16-2011, 08:34 PM	#1914
qwerth Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: あなたのお母さんの家 Southern Cali Posts: 1,619 Trader Rating: (25) Feedback Score: 25 reviews	loving the meaty look on the s13 "s@nt0s"

06-17-2011, 12:01 PM	#1915
mantas Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: LALALAND Posts: 822 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Im running Running 235/35/18 front and 265/35/28 rear, was running 275 in the rear and 245 front with just rolled fenders, no flaring, could have fit a 285 in the rear but tires cost too damn much in those odd sizes.

06-21-2011, 09:49 AM	#1916
Fred Allen Burge Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri Age: 44 Posts: 524 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	So I decided on 275/40/17 Nitto Nt05 for the rears on these wheels (17x9.75") and I'm super happy with the size of tire for the wheel. It's got the exact square-ness I was after and is super beefy! I'll post pics on the car when I get the project that far along. I also went with Nitto Nt05 on the front but in 255/40/17 and they look great too, not too different than the rears just a slight roundness to the sidewall. __________________ Silvia, built 5.3 turbo, 4l80e, 9.8@142

06-21-2011, 10:07 AM	#1917
Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 37 Posts: 3,685 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	get them on the car They going on a s13 or s14? __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo

06-21-2011, 03:46 PM	#1920
Seraphim38 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Washington Posts: 810 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I love my 275/40/17 Nitto NT05s on the rear of my S13 hatch. Far better traction than the 255 Azenis I used to have.