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01-22-2009, 11:15 AM | #1 |
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01-22-2009, 01:05 PM | #4 |
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My budy Miguel at RMJ motorsports was the one that got me started really thinking about this when he asked me if I thought 275s would work with stock fenders on his new hatch.
After all the research I thought I'd share a specific example presuming you wanted the same wheels and tires in front and back. From my max rubber post (max backspace is about the same on both s13 and s14) MAX backspace Front~ 150-159mm MAX backspace Rear~ 172-179mm Max Frontspace with stock fenders with R+P: S13 Front 95-105 S13 Rear 80-95 S14 Front 109-116 S14 Rear 97-117 (107 really is perfect with a good r+p) The perfect s13: these wheels will fit with stock fenders after a good (not crazy) roll and pull! Front: 150bs + 104fs = 17x10 +23 Rear: 172bs +82fs = 17x10 + 32-45 You could buy a set of four of the same higher offset wheels and just use a spacer in front to get the proper offset. Front: 150bs + 91.3fs = 18x9.5 +29.35 Rear: 172bs + 69.3fs = 18x9.5 +25.6-51.3 If you want 9.5" wide wheels for example: I kow 5zigen makes a 18x9.5 +35 which would be perfect in the rear, and in the front would work perfect w/ a 1/2" spacer FYI: I consider Rolled and Pulled fenders to still be stock.
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01-22-2009, 02:33 PM | #5 | |
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thats like an 11 inch wide +18 or a 10 +0 or +5 You just have to be carefull after it was all siad and done before i went widebody, i had pulled the rears out something like 35mm, i had seperated all the spot welds in the wheel well from pulling so much, it wasnt a big deal, i just stitch welded the whole area, its just something to think about.
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01-22-2009, 03:50 PM | #6 |
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GSracer,
I know a bit more than 116 is possible... but do you agree that if you go any further it starts to look pretty goofy, pretty quickly (not to mention the welds!)?
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01-22-2009, 05:16 PM | #7 |
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yea my setup got to the point of 120mm front spacing on a 295 and it strated to look retarded from certain angles.
heres from my og pull days with above mentioned setup
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01-23-2009, 11:13 PM | #8 |
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Well as far as back spacings, you guys gotta consider what coilover/suspension you're using. Some bits are thicker diameter wise. I know when I stuffed a set of 17x10 +12 FN01 on my old Kouki, I had to run a 8mm spacers to clear my craptacular MR coilovers. Now on my current S14, I got a set of 17x10 +18 RPF1s and it clears with a 5mm spacer (could have gotten away with 3mm if i had any). This is on an Aragosta Coilover.
Oh yah, GSRacer, howd you pull the rear fenders that much? Did you cut the inner fender to pull the outter than much? |
01-24-2009, 09:46 AM | #9 | |
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I presume that these clearance issues were in the front only? What was hitting, the springs?
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01-24-2009, 11:49 AM | #10 |
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so my plan (or my dream, rather, since that's pretty much what it is at this point) is to eventually set up my hatch for the track...
Currently pushing 205 F and 225 R on 17x7 :P with loads of understeer (which I'm sure is due to the stagger) that's all i can afford for now. Anyway, I'm wondering (if it hasn't been covered already), what would be the optimal sizes to run on an S13. Of course, wider is better, but where's the limit... 275, 335, 875??? lol I'm sure at some point the width would start imposing a negative effect on the handling, etc...? I've seen 275s even up to 335s in this thread, if I'm not mistaken, but I'm just curious as to what type of setup would yield the best performance (assuming we're running a capable tire in any of the sizes)
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01-24-2009, 12:20 PM | #12 |
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Hey racepar1, what ever happened to the GT4 Lap times thread? :P
Would you please elaborate on what exactly you mean by "On a stock KA a 255 width tire is all it can really push"? Well, my KA is currently stock. However, in my question, I should have included to assume the motor is pushing 300-400 whp. I understand you can go wider, but I guess what I'm asking here is, is there a limit to how wide you can go? If so, what is that limiting factor? For example, why shouldn't I run 13" wide wheels with 345s on them (Enzo Ferrari rear setup)?
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01-25-2009, 02:27 AM | #13 |
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Yup, up front. Then again my cars are low too. I could easily gain 10mm or so of strut clearance if the perches sit above the rim lip. But that would equate to having a 4x4 of a S14.
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01-24-2009, 05:48 PM | #14 |
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Most tire manufacturers list the wheel widths that their tires were engineered for. Alot of real engineering goes into these things and I really believe in taking their recommendations to heart.
Federal reccomends not going >225 on a 17x7 wheel. â—ŽFederal Tire - 595RS - Dimension Data â—Ž
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01-29-2009, 02:24 PM | #18 |
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Last season i ran 255/40-17 all around w/ a KA24DE making around 150whp/165ftlbstq. I really enjoyed the non-staggered setup, especially for rotating tires. This upcoming 09' season I plan on running street tires again Front: 275/40-17 Rear: 285/40-17 along with more whp. Here's a few pics of last years setup |
01-30-2009, 09:15 AM | #22 |
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The rear suspension has no issues.
For the front I had to run a small 5-8mm just to clear the inboard of the tire. That's all. Nothing major. Also had to adjust the caster up front for the 255's to clear properly. Note: With -3.5 camber up front my 255's were flush with the top of my front fender. |
01-31-2009, 01:10 AM | #23 |
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you've got a clean looking setup there RAMM, that rear angle looks pretty aggressive
so you were running 255 RT-615s ? What tires do you plan on running on your "Front: 275/40-17 Rear: 285/40-17" setup?
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This upcoming season, and I stress season because i live in chicago. I am planning on running Kumho XS's. Mainly due to their previous history with their R-Comp tires and their good sizing that's available for the 17inch. Also 180 u.t.q.g is still considered a competitive rating for a street tire. If anyone has any other suggestions, im more than willing to try another tire? |
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I haven't been to an event since I think june.
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02-04-2009, 08:32 AM | #28 |
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I wrecked my car. So while I'm in the process of rebuilding, I went ahead with this:
(its not finished yet.) But 275's up front slammed no problem . (car wont be slammed though) |
02-09-2009, 04:20 PM | #30 |
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What would guys recommend for tire size. S14, 18x9.5 +20 all the way around. I'm ok with staggered tire fitment. My initial thoughts are 245/40/18 Fronts and 265/35/18 Rears. Would that work or do I need to rethink my tire selection?
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