This is the roll center, suspension pickup, and steering angle modification thread.

[dil han]

Originally Posted by LuckyX2

Way to quote the entire first page lol. Could you edit that please? It slows down my shitty work computer.

Lol ^^^ agreed

[motoxris]

Hey rub it in a little more. Hahah I bet some people were really let down when they seen a bunch of pictures then figure out it's an old post

[s13 loverr]

Does anyone know the differences between the s13 and s14 nismo power brace? I attempted to install my power brace on my s14 today and NONE of the holes would line up and I highly doubt I am doing it wrong. Can anyone tell me measurements between the mounting points or obvious differences to see if I was sent the wrong type? I would like to double check before I call up the company and order a new power brace. Thanks!

[huffandpuff00]

they look different, google them.

[az_240]

Very easy to tell them apart.... the s14 has reinforcement at both ends of the bar that connects the tension brackets together.

s13 only has 1 end reinforced.

[s13 loverr]

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They look the same to me?

[boost]

Those pics are wrong, both s13. here's a pic of my s14 and s13. s14 having both ends of the cross bar braced and dimples for the radiator stays.

[PoorMans180SX]

Here's what the new 45mm RCA Cor Integration knuckle looks like, I'll add it to the first page.





On another note, Wisefab is supposed to be coming out with the rear kit for S-chassis soon.

[Motary]

They are, their rear upright looks like a work of art and much lighter than the oem upright with some sweet features, I'd buy one just for the cool appearence if I weren't converting to double-a-arm

The welding on Cor integration knuckle is seriously sweet.

[derass]

Im having a problem after installing MA knuckles this weekend. Driver side would be touching the tension rod while passenger side had 2" clearance. Also, pass. side tie rod adjustment was extended all the way, so could not shift the clearance one side to the other.

Rack is centered, extended LCAs are within 1/8" of each other and BJ to TR pickups are within 1mm. Anyone experienced something like this, or have any idea of whats going on?

[PoorMans180SX]

Originally Posted by derass

Im having a problem after installing MA knuckles this weekend. Driver side would be touching the tension rod while passenger side had 2" clearance. Also, pass. side tie rod adjustment was extended all the way, so could not shift the clearance one side to the other.

Rack is centered, extended LCAs are within 1/8" of each other and BJ to TR pickups are within 1mm. Anyone experienced something like this, or have any idea of whats going on?

You need to recenter the rack again.

[derass]

i was just out in the garage doing that, its dead center. was really counting on that being the issue

[dil han]

Pictures???

[IThaJokaI]

Originally Posted by derass

i was just out in the garage doing that, its dead center. was really counting on that being the issue

Are you trying to recenter with the tie rods connected?

[jamg]

so i used steering rack spacers on both sides, but my toe on one side is all messed up...

how do i fix the toe? the threads are maxed out...

[ska]

Originally Posted by jamg

so i used steering rack spacers on both sides, but my toe on one side is all messed up...

how do i fix the toe? the threads are maxed out...

Aftermarket outter tierods? Inner tierods? You'd have to chop of a little bit of the inner tierods.

Does anybody know the Ackerman difference on those Cor integration knuckles "chuckles".

[ska]

Does anybody know the Ackerman difference on those Cor integration knuckles "chuckles"

[jamg]

Originally Posted by ska

Aftermarket outter tierods? Inner tierods? You'd have to chop of a little bit of the inner tierods.

Does anybody know the Ackerman difference on those Cor integration knuckles "chuckles".

S14. inner and outer.

there isn't any more threads for me to tread onto though.... chopping it off won't help will it?

i would have to chop off pieces off the inner and outer in that case.. ?

[ska]

Originally Posted by jamg

S14. inner and outer.

there isn't any more threads for me to tread onto though.... chopping it off won't help will it?

i would have to chop off pieces off the inner and outer in that case.. ?

I just reread your previous post. If this is only happening on one side then you might have to see if your rack is centered.

[jamg]

Originally Posted by ska

I just reread your previous post. If this is only happening on one side then you might have to see if your rack is centered.

yeah i did that.. i believe.

i did that method where you count the turns.

it's weird...

turning to one side, i get 2.5 full turns

turn to the other, i get 2.3 turns.. almost a full 2.5 but not all the way.

[joshchewuhh]

if you're using s14 inners you have to cut some threads off. I had too. make sure you thread on a nut first so that way you can fix the cut threads by backing the nut off.

[jamg]

Originally Posted by joshchewuhh

if you're using s14 inners you have to cut some threads off. I had too. make sure you thread on a nut first so that way you can fix the cut threads by backing the nut off.

i think im going to cut both inner and outers out.

even if i cut off some of the inners out, i have no room left to thread it onto. the outers are touching the nut, which is pushed back all the way as far as possible.

[s14croom]

awesome thread

[az_240]

Originally Posted by jamg

i think im going to cut both inner and outers out.

even if i cut off some of the inners out, i have no room left to thread it onto. the outers are touching the nut, which is pushed back all the way as far as possible.

I ran into this issue recently on a friends s13. The oem s14 inners he had didn't have enough thread so chopping them wouldn't help.

Tried purchasing Moog Z32 inners which are shorter but they only had about 10-15mm of thread engagement after centering the rack and getting the wheels straight. I could have probably run a slip on spacer on the drivers side for more thread engagement but I felt it still wasn't enough.

Noticed the s14 TEIN inners have a few extra threads so we ended up having to order those and chop them where the threads go into the large rack spacer as well as where the outers screw into the inners. Wasted some money/time but at least it works now.

[Ichiban4]

Question on tie rod length w/ knuckles

I am planning on ordering the Abercrombie knuckles with 20-25mm extended LCAs.

I currently run TEIN inners/outer with pbm rack spacer.

If I orger the GKteck High Tensile Offset Spacers pictures below, that will move my rods forward like the relocated rack.



My question is theoretically.. the gktech spacers are like 18mm + 7mm PBM inner spacers = 25mm.. So will I still need longer tie rods/ends or would going this route eliminate the need for the extended ones?

Thanks

[motoxris]

Originally Posted by ska

Does anybody know the Ackerman difference on those Cor integration knuckles "chuckles"

Right now they have 2 versions that gets 5-7 and 8-10 degrees ackerman.

[nieko]

Originally Posted by Ichiban4

Question on tie rod length w/ knuckles

My question is theoretically.. the gktech spacers are like 18mm + 7mm PBM inner spacers = 25mm.. So will I still need longer tie rods/ends or would going this route eliminate the need for the extended ones?

Thanks

You cannot run the 7mm PBM spacers with the offset rack spacers. If you look at the offset spacers, you will notice the 2 tabs sticking out, these slip into your rack to center the offset spacer and prevent it from rotating.

I ran these with z33 tie rods(short as balls) + SPL outers. I still think you should be fine. They add quite a bit of length.

[foreverdark]

I just ran into the same problem. Two choices:
A. Buy z32 tie rods
B. Extend your FLCA or get some aftermarket flca.

I am running drop knuckles with 45mm correction, Offset Rack Spacers, PSM eccentric rack bushings, Battle Version Offset Tension Rods. I am planning on getting the FLCA extended about a inch and a half to two inches. Also want to notch the FLCA where the tie rod outer would hit the FLCA. Also haven't decided if I wanted to run a 17x8 or 17x9 up front with about 0 offset. Trying to get at least 60 degrees. After that I don't really know where to go to try to get more angle out of this setup.



This is how it sits now. (Not aligned, Stock s14 FLCA)

[PoorMans180SX]

Originally Posted by foreverdark

I just ran into the same problem. Two choices:
A. Buy z32 tie rods
B. Extend your FLCA or get some aftermarket flca.

I am running drop knuckles with 45mm correction, Offset Rack Spacers, PSM eccentric rack bushings, Battle Version Offset Tension Rods. I am planning on getting the FLCA extended about a inch and a half to two inches. Also want to notch the FLCA where the tie rod outer would hit the FLCA. Also haven't decided if I wanted to run a 17x8 or 17x9 up front with about 0 offset. Trying to get at least 60 degrees. After that I don't really know where to go to try to get more angle out of this setup.

This is how it sits now. (Not aligned, Stock s14 FLCA)

Holy balls, a two inch extension? Do you want to run like -20* of camber? Mine are extended 25mm and I'm pulling -7-8* with the camber plate halfway in. I plan on redoing them with about 30-35mm and rotating the camber plate to use it to adjust caster.

The only way I can see you getting more angle (not that you're really going to need it; but if you're really after it) is to get Cor Integration's curved tension rods and front sway bar. Unless you want to change your entire setup.

[Ichiban4]

Originally Posted by nieko

You cannot run the 7mm PBM spacers with the offset rack spacers. If you look at the offset spacers, you will notice the 2 tabs sticking out, these slip into your rack to center the offset spacer and prevent it from rotating.

I ran these with z33 tie rods(short as balls) + SPL outers. I still think you should be fine. They add quite a bit of length.

Ok thanks for the input, and I didn't mean put them between the rack and offset spacers, I meant between the offset spacer and actual tie rod. Anyone tried that?