"You're doing it wrong." - A thread to ridicule turrible, just turrible ideas

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by S14DB

Not in this fucked up day and age...

This goes back to my statement that drifting is a joke, not a sport. No legit sanctioning body would allow stupid shit like that on the track.

[Future240]

I cannot believe that shit was allowed. Are you kidding me?

[jaysgottaredtop]

Originally Posted by Corbic

This goes back to my statement that drifting is a joke, not a sport. No legit sanctioning body would allow stupid shit like that on the track.

Originally Posted by Future240

I cannot believe that shit was allowed. Are you kidding me?

Eh, it's ultimately up to the drivers.

If an organization wants to hold an event with loose rules, and people willingly sign up to participate, what's the harm?

There's an event held near me with laughably loose rules, but it's a cheap day of open track fun. It's by far my favorite event to attend. It would suck if that event got needlessly anal about safety or stopped altogether.

[VROOOM]

once someone gets hurt that event will be over.

[jaysgottaredtop]

Maybe. But until then, it's laid back and fun. If people think it's too unsafe, they don't have to attend. If someone gets hurt because they were tandeming without a cage and their door gets crushed, then tough shit. That's what the waivers and track insurance are for.

Basically, everyone should use their best judgement and quit bitching about how other people voluntarily choose to take personal risks.

[PIEMAN909]

Originally Posted by simmode1

I bet you don't eat salad?! You killing me over here...lol

My name on IG is a joke, I do eat salad though lol.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by jaysgottaredtop

. That's what the waivers and track insurance are for.

Except that's not how the world works.

Originally Posted by jaysgottaredtop

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Basically, everyone should use their best judgement and quit bitching about how other people voluntarily choose to take personal risks.

But all it takes is one of these idiots to ruin it for everyone. There should be a minimal expectation of safety and professionalism at Motorsport event.

If that doesn't exist, all you have is a bunch of high schoolers playing "racecar" in a parking lot.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by jaysgottaredtop

Eh, it's ultimately up to the drivers.

Actually it's not.

[DRIFTER-M]

Originally Posted by jaysgottaredtop

Maybe. But until then, it's laid back and fun. If people think it's too unsafe, they don't have to attend. If someone gets hurt because they were tandeming without a cage and their door gets crushed, then tough shit. That's what the waivers and track insurance are for.

Basically, everyone should use their best judgement and quit bitching about how other people voluntarily choose to take personal risks.

I know judging by your location and how you described it exactly what events you are talking about LOL.

And to be honest their events ARE fun. Controversial maybe, but fun.

People are somewhat humorous here, Japan tracks they don't care. Flip your car? get it off the track so others can go. We have way to much red tape to crawl through in the U.S. involving tracks.

[Slasher]

Originally Posted by jaysgottaredtop

Basically, everyone should use their best judgement and quit bitching about how other people voluntarily choose to take personal risks.

best judgement? have you seen the piles of shit posted on this forum? if they are willing to drive around in public in these cars do you really trust their judgement?

[Taylor Shinobu]

Originally Posted by jaysgottaredtop

The argument is over 300 comments long, but the attached series serves as a great TL;DR

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LOL that's me at the bottom

[jaysgottaredtop]

Originally Posted by Corbic

There should be a minimal expectation of safety and professionalism at Motorsport event.

There is a minimal expectation of safety and professionalism. Some are more minimal than others. If you think the expectations are too minimal, then don't go to the event. Simple as that.

Originally Posted by DRIFTER-M

I know judging by your location and how you described it exactly what events you are talking about LOL.



And to be honest their events ARE fun. Controversial maybe, but fun.

Are you talking about KMS? Because I am not.

Originally Posted by DRIFTER-M

People are somewhat humorous here, Japan tracks they don't care. Flip your car? get it off the track so others can go. We have way to much red tape to crawl through in the U.S. involving tracks.

QFT.

Originally Posted by Slasher

best judgement? have you seen the piles of shit posted on this forum? if they are willing to drive around in public in these cars do you really trust their judgement?

That's the point. If you don't trust them or their car, don't tandem with them. If you don't trust the general safety of the event, don't go to the event.

[l adam l]

Fuck nvm. Msglenggkdidjfbnd

[DRIFTER-M]

Originally Posted by jaysgottaredtop

Are you talking about KMS? Because I am not.

Yeah I was, thought for sure you were referring to them.

They aren't the only ones of course, but there is major generalizations being made in this thread regarding drifting as a whole. I have events near by some of which have super lose tech requirements and others are super strict.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by jaysgottaredtop

There is a minimal expectation of safety and professionalism. Some are more minimal than others. If you think the expectations are too minimal, then don't go to the event. Simple as that.

Allowing a car to run without a windshield is idiocy. /end story

[DRIFTER-M]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Allowing a car to run without a windshield is idiocy. /end story

Corbic, though I respect your opinion and know you are an old member here I am curious as to why you think it is so horrid for a drift event (especially if not tandem).

I too thought the same way at an event when I saw a car show up without a windshield. I asked him about passing tech, he said "what would the windshield do to protect me on a drift track?"

I didn't really have a response. If you have a helmet with the shield down, it keeps wind from getting in your eyes. Not much different than driving a vert on the track I suppose. If you were to get in a serious accident it keeps glass from getting all over you, and assuming your safety equipment (eg: belts, seats, brackets) are safe you shouldn't fly out - which again still isn't much different than a vert.

Just curious. Not a big fan myself of cars without windshield on the track and not sure I could ever drive like that, but I wonder what you think it provides that I am overlooking.

[TwoForDeh]

Originally Posted by jaysgottaredtop

The argument is over 300 comments long, but the attached series serves as a great TL;DR

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oh god. these 2 are 2 of my closest friends. they were talking about this last night. oh my lord hahahahaha

[blueshark123]

Originally Posted by DRIFTER-M

Corbic, though I respect your opinion and know you are an old member here I am curious as to why you think it is so horrid for a drift event (especially if not tandem).

I too thought the same way at an event when I saw a car show up without a windshield. I asked him about passing tech, he said "what would the windshield do to protect me on a drift track?"

I didn't really have a response. If you have a helmet with the shield down, it keeps wind from getting in your eyes. Not much different than driving a vert on the track I suppose. If you were to get in a serious accident it keeps glass from getting all over you, and assuming your safety equipment (eg: belts, seats, brackets) are safe you shouldn't fly out - which again still isn't much different than a vert.

Just curious. Not a big fan myself of cars without windshield on the track and not sure I could ever drive like that, but I wonder what you think it provides that I am overlooking.

What happens if someones tire flies off and hits windshield???

[DRIFTER-M]

Originally Posted by blueshark123

What happens if someones tire flies off and hits windshield???

No tandem for person minus windshield.
I thought I said that above, though I may not have.

[Matej]

Originally Posted by blueshark123

What happens if someones tire flies off and hits windshield???

Well, motorcycle racers do not have to have windshields or seat belts or cages or any of that stuff, and they go much faster. I always wondered why there is such a disproportionate amount of required safety between cars and motorcycles, especially since motorcycles are much more dangerous in the first place.

That being said, the car should not have been allowed to participate in an event because it is ugly.

[TwoForDeh]

Originally Posted by Matej

Well, motorcycle racers do not have to have windshields or seat belts or cages or any of that stuff, and they go much faster. I always wondered why there is such a disproportionate amount of required safety between cars and motorcycles, especially since motorcycles are much more dangerous in the first place.

That being said, the car should not have been allowed to participate in an event because it is ugly.

Well, if you think about it, there's only so much you can do to a motorcycle for safety purposes. You can't really put a cage or big windshield or seat belts because that would be just silly. Imagine a bike with a full cage around it. First thing that comes to mind is one of the those boso bikes. And also, if a bike does go down, it's more likely to have less damage done being separated from the bike as opposed to being attached to it.

[DRIFTER-M]

Originally Posted by TwoForDeh

Well, if you think about it, there's only so much you can do to a motorcycle for safety purposes. You can't really put a cage or big windshield or seat belts because that would be just silly. Imagine a bike with a full cage around it. First thing that comes to mind is one of the those boso bikes. And also, if a bike does go down, it's more likely to have less damage done being separated from the bike as opposed to being attached to it.

I think the whole purpose is, why are they allowed to be in sanctioned racing events, but cars have strict policies?

Its the same argument as Seatbelt law VS. Motorcycle Riders - unless I misunderstand his post, he is saying why are people so concerned with cars having such strict track tech when bikes can't really have any?

[TwoForDeh]

Originally Posted by DRIFTER-M

I think the whole purpose is, why are they allowed to be in sanctioned racing events, but cars have strict policies?

Its the same argument as Seatbelt law VS. Motorcycle Riders - unless I misunderstand his post, he is saying why are people so concerned with cars having such strict track tech when bikes can't really have any?

Those are both valid points. But, i believe it's just the nature of the machine, if you know what I mean by that. With a car, whether it be for drifting, road race, autocross, what have you, there's a lot more parts and thus a lot more things to break and cause a potential hazard as opposed to bikes. They just simply can't be as strict on bikes aside from like maybe exhausts or tires. I'm not sure what kind of rules bikes have though.

[jaysgottaredtop]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Allowing a car to run without a windshield is idiocy. /end story

Driving without a windshield??

That's as dangerous as driving sideways with the windows down!!1!

Oh wait. That describes every drift event ever.

[derek king]

Originally Posted by Jcatzcustoms

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This thing is a paint job away from being radical

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by derek king

This thing is a paint job away from being radical

Rusted hood means he does not intend to paint.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by jaysgottaredtop

Driving without a windshield??

That's as dangerous as driving sideways with the windows down!!1!

Oh wait. That describes every drift event ever.

Wow... You are just so clever.

[kingkilburn]

Bikes versus windshields is a strawman. The two have nothing to do with eachother. If a driver in a fully prepped racecar could be thrown free of the accident from inside a car that weighs about as much as he does safety concerns drop considerably, but we are still talking about 3000 potential death machines.

If a windshield can keep a delaminated tire or loose piece of bodywork out of my face I'm keeping it.

[danshaz]

I was gunna paint this slut but I like this better.

from facebook. the comments on it are just as cringe worthy.

[simmode1]

^^^Oh. Nice find. All this talking with no pics was starting to make me think we had run out of ppl who were doing it wrong.