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Corbic show me your proof of election fraud from the DNC. I posted stats and proper evidence. All you have done is sprout your opinion.

Here is MY evidence on ALL Russian indictiments over the past 12 months. As it turns out, ALL are tied to GOP in some way or the other

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-coll...ueller-1244835

THEY HAVE ALL PLEADED GUILTY

pecial Counsel Robert Mueller has so far indicted 34 people and three companies as part of his probe into allegations of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 presidential election.

Among them are five former Trump officials, all of whom have pleaded guilty to criminal charges, and 26 Russian nationals.

Michael Cohen

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Michael Cohen, former personal attorney to President Donald Trump, exits federal court, November 29, 2018 in New York City. At the court hearing, Cohen pleaded guilty to making false statements to Congress about a Moscow real estate project Trump pursued during the months he was running for president.
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Trump’s former attorney and fixer Cohen pleaded guilty as part of a plea deal last week to lying to Congress over a planned Trump Organization real estate project in Moscow.

Cohen told a federal judge in Manahattan that he had spoken more extensively with Trump about the project than he had admitted to Congress in testimony last year, with conversations extending to June 2016.

In August, Cohen admitted as part of a plea deal to campaign finance violations in relation to hush money payments made to two adult entertainers who claim they had affairs with Trump, as well as tax evasion and bank fraud crimes. These offenses were intially investigated by Mueller, but were handed off to the U.S. Attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York.

George Papadopoulos

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Foreign policy adviser to President Donald Trump's election campaign, George Papadopoulos, and his wife Simona Mangiante Papadopoulos leave U.S. District Court after his sentencing in Washington, D.C. on September 7.
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A former foreign policy adviser with the Trump campaign, Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying to investigators in October 2017 about people who he believed were working on behalf of Russians. He was sentenced to 14 days in prison in August.

In April 2016 Papadopoulos met with Maltese Professor Joseph Mifsud, who said he could put Papadopoulos in touch with Russians who had dirt of Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump's rival during the 2016 presidential election. Papadopoulos went on to have further contact with the professor, who brokered meetings between Papadopoulos and two Russian nationals.

Paul Manafort

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Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort leaves the Albert V. Bryan U.S. Courthouse with his wife, Kathleen Manafort (left), after an arraignment hearing in Alexandria, Virginia.
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Manafort served as chairman of Trump’s presidential campaign, and was charged in October 2017 with tax and bank fraud, false statements, being an unregistered agent of a foreign power, and obstruction of justice.

The charges stemmed from Manafort's work as a lobbyist for Ukrainian politicians and the Ukrainian government, and his bid to conceal his role and the money he made.

He initially fought the charges, and in August was convicted in Virginia on eight counts of fraud. The jury though could not reach a consensus verdict on ten of the 18 counts. He will be sentenced in February.

He accepted a plea deal with Mueller in September, pleading guilty to conspiring to defraud the U.S. and conspiring to obstruct justice. But in November the deal fell apart and the FBI said Manafort had breached the plea bargain and lied to them.

Rick Gates

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Rick Gates, former campaign aide to U.S. President Donald Trump, departs after a bond hearing at U.S. District Court in Washington, U.S., December 11, 2017.
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An associate of Manafort and former campaign adviser to Trump, Gates pleaded guilty in February to financial fraud and lying to the FBI as part of a plea deal with Mueller.

Gates in August testified at Manafort's trial, saying that he and Manafort had run an elaborate network of offshore accounts and shell companies where they chanelled their lobbying cash, and admitted to stealing from Manafort to fund a lavish lifestyle and extramarital affair.

Michael Flynn

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Michael Flynn, former national security adviser to President Donald Trump, leaves following his plea hearing at the Prettyman Federal Courthouse in Washington, D.C., on December 1, 2017.
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Trump’s former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty last December to lying to the FBI about his contact with Russia’s ambassador to the United States.

In December 2016, Flynn had spoken with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak about new sanctions imposed on Russia by the outgoing Obama administration, and about a planned UN Security Council vote condemning Israeli settlements. He admitted lying to the FBI about the content of his discussions with Kislyak.

On Tuesday, Mueller recommended that Flynn serve no jail time for the offence, revealing that Flynn had cooperated extensively with FBI agents on three ongoing investigations.

Russian Nationals

In July, 12 members of the Russian GRU military intelligence agency were indicted on charges of conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, identity theft, conspiracy to launder money.

The charges related to the hacking of emails from DNC servers in June 2016, which were then leaked online in a bid to damage Clinton's campaign.

The Russian government has denied the accusations.

A further 13 Russian nationals and three related companies had been indicted in February on charges of conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit bank fraud, identity theft.

The charges relate to Russia’s use of “troll farms” to spread propaganda and disinformation during the 2016 campaign, with the notorious Internet Research Agency and two companies created to finance it singled out in the indictment.

Among those charged was Yevgeny Prigozhin, the alleged financier of the operation and member of Russian President Vladimir Putin's inner circle, who runs a network of catering and restaurant businesses.

Mueller has also charged several individuals not employed by the Trump campaign.

Sam Patten

A lobbyist who has worked with Manafort, Patten in August pleaded guilty as part of a plea deal to failing to register as an agent of a foreign power.

Konstantin Kilimnik

A Russian army-trained linguist and former associate of Manafort, Kliminik was charged in June with obstruction of justice.

Alex van der Zwaan

An attorney who worked with Manafort and Gates, van der Zwaan pleaded guilty in February to lying to investigators about conversations with Gates, and was sentenced to 30 days in prison in April.

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He was deported to the Netherlands after serving his sentence.

Richard Pinedo

California resident Pinedo pleaded guilty to identity fraud in April 2018, after selling bank accounts opened using fraudulent information online to Russians. He was jailed for six months in October.
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CORBIC, DACA was a part of the original deal that trump vetoed way back in December.

Also, a court has upheld DACA, so why is trump offering something that is already upheld by the SCOTUS??

Please tell me, as a negotiation tactic, how does that work?!?!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/22/polit...urt/index.html

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"The justices' refusal to act on the government's pending appeals in the DACA litigation means, among other things, that President Trump can't use this litigation, at least for now, for leverage in negotiations over the government shutdown," said Steve Vladeck, CNN Supreme Court analyst and professor of law at the University of Texas School of Law.
"Even if the court agrees to take up these cases, the earliest it would hear them now is this fall, with no decision until early 2020," Vladeck added. "That kicks the debate over DACA back to the political branches."
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So Corbic, explain to me again, how trump is offering DACA protections, something the court has already upheld OUTSIDE of negotiations??

And you know which officer protected him?? A Gay Woman police officer. A woman from the same group Scalise has voted against in the past....

Also, Griner, another who saved Scalise's life is black. Scalise have given talks to KKK and White supremacist groups in the past.

Both were not only part of the responding officers, but were a PART OF HIS SECURITY DETAIL! Let that sink in for a sec. The same people who he is an adamantly against is in his SECURITY DETAIL and ultimately SAVED HIS LIFE AND TOOK A BULLET FOR HIM!


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On 15 June 2017, a post circulate claiming via social media asserting that police officer Crystal Griner (who had been wounded during the shooting of House Majority Whip Steve Scalise one day earlier) was a lesbian, and she risked her life to save a man who was opposed to her own marriage:



The post maintained that Griner (a lesbian) saved Scalise (an opponent of LGBT rights), and ended with a “that’s right, haters” message.

Although elements of the post are accurate, on the whole it left out a lot of context and a complex backstory involving Griner, Bailey, their jobs, and the shooting incident.

It is true that Griner is married to another woman, an incidental detail reported by gay publication Washington Blade:

Capitol Police Officer Crystal Griner — a lesbian in a same-sex marriage — was among those wounded during a shooting this week in the Virginia suburbs and received a visit from President Trump during his trip to the hospital to see the victims.

Griner was among the five people shooter James T. Hodgkinson wounded during an incident at the Republican congressional baseball practice. On the House floor, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) praised her as one of the officers who saved lives during the shooting where House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) was badly wounded.

According to CBS News, Griner and Special Agent David Bailey rushed Hodgkinson despite their own wounds. After being shot in the ankle, she was taken to MedStar Washington Hospital Center for recovery.

Furthermore, both Griner and Bailey are black, and in the days after the shooting a quote attributed to Scalise describing himself as “David Duke without the baggage” re-entered the news cycle. Although that quote, too, was often presented in a facile manner, Scalise had come under fire for his purported links to white supremacist groups:

[Scalise has] admitted to giving a speech to white supremacists.

In 2002, Scalise spoke to the European Unity and Rights Organization, a group led by Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the KKK. “He told me he was like David Duke without the baggage,” Stephanie Grace, a long-time political reporter, told The New York Times in 2014 of her first meeting with Scalise. “I think he meant he supported the same policy ideas as David Duke, but he wasn’t David Duke, that he didn’t have the same feelings about certain people as David Duke did.” While Scalise admitted to the speech, he later claimed he didn’t know their cause was white supremacy.

Griner and Bailey were rightly hailed for averting what could have been a massacre, nut the pair were not merely responding officers acting in a moment of spontaneity; they were specifically assigned to protect Scalise as part of his security detail:

A mass shooting during a congressional baseball practice could have been a full-blown “massacre,” Congress members say. Instead, two special agents put their lives on the line, potentially saving dozens of others.

Capitol Police officers Crystal Griner and David Bailey are special agents on Rep. Steve Scalise’s security detail. Scalise was standing near second base in an Alexandria, Virginia park when the bullets began flying from behind the third base dugout, striking Scalise. While Scalise dragged himself to safety, Griner and Bailey lept into action. In an extended firefight, the two agents took down shooter James Hodgkinson while battling through injuries of their own. Both were taken to the hospital after the gunfight, and are recovering from their injuries, officials say …

Most congress members do not have their own security details. But high-ranking officials like Scalise, the House Majority Whip, are assigned security teams.

Had Scalise not been present at the early-morning practice, neither Griner and Bailey would have been on the scene to intervene:

If Scalise hadn’t attended with his security detail, lawmakers said, many of their colleagues likely would have been slaughtered by Hodgkinson.

“Our lives were saved by the Capitol Police. Had they not been there I think it would have been a massacre,” Sen. Rand Paul said on CNN after the shooting. “The field, I mean, was basically a killing field.” But the Capitol Police officers weren’t the only ones credited with saving lives during the shootout.

Despite Rep. Scalise’s reported proximity to white supremacists during his political career (Scalise clarified that he disavowed any such ideology in 2014), friends said Bailey was devoted to his duty of protecting Scalise:

“[Bailey] definitely takes his job very seriously. He works really hard and is committed to keeping the Whip safe and to serving,” [friend Danielle] Carpenter told The Daily Beast. “He is a leader in all ways. He is one of the best guys I’ve ever met—is kind to everyone and always makes sure that everyone feels safe and taken care of. Dave is really proud of his Brazilian and Jamaican heritage and you can tell he would do anything for family. He considers Congressman Scalise and his family as his own, so it is no surprise that he would make any sacrifice necessary to keep Whip Scalise safe.”
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Anyways, moving on.

MEXICO PAYING FOR THE WALL??

No one seems to want to answer that questions..
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You've not shown a single piece of collisions, subversion or conspiracy.

You have a witch hunt that's using the excuse of subversion to put people in jail for tax fraud and purgury. Purgury that would never have had happened without thr investigation.

This is 100% the type of political terrony that you leftist bitch about all the fucking time.

Oh, you want to run against me? Well I'm going to have thr XYZ agency dig into you until they find something, missed tax return, speeding tickets, kissed a girl at prom without asking for permission... And I'll fucking ruin you. So don't you dare!

All those fluffed up indictments and not a single fucking shred of proof of any quid-pro-qou that if Russia helps Trump, Trump helps Russia.

The entire investigation was based and authorized on a fake propaganda report that was created by the DNC.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...bb9_story.html


Seriously dude. Wake the fuck up.







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Fentanyl

"Transportation and Distribution Fentanyl is transported into the United States
in parcel packages directly from China or from China through Canada, and is also smuggled across the SWB from Mexico. Large volumes of fentanyl are seized at the SWB, although
these seizures are typically low in purity – on
average approximately 7 percent. Conversely,
the smaller volumes seized after arriving in
the mail directly from China can have purities
over 90 percent and be worth much more than
the fentanyl seized at the SWB"

So China, is the issue, not the SWB



Also from the article:
"Because of the differences in both seizure
size and average purity, it is currently not
possible to determine which source, Mexico
or China, is the greater direct threat as a
supplier of fentanyl to the United States.
While seizures likely originating in Mexico
represent the largest total gross weight of
fentanyl seized in the United States"




Not exactly what I took away from reading this section.


I'll read more of this later.
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Ok. Did the GOP pay for the Mueller investigation?? That was a bipartisan effort by Congress and was NOT what led to the the Mueller investigation

Corbic, read your own article. I will make sure to bolt, underline and italic it as you seem to not want to read past the headline

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Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS's research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

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The Clinton campaign and the DNC, through the law firm, continued to fund Fusion GPS's research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.

Fusion GPS gave Steele's reports and other research documents to Elias, the people familiar with the matter said. It is unclear how or how much of that information was shared with the campaign and the DNC and who in those organizations was aware of the roles of Fusion GPS and Steele. One person close to the matter said the campaign and the DNC were not informed by the law firm of Fusion GPS's role.


I will even pull the actual paragraph for you here

Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS's research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.

Originally funded by an unknown Republican client. Clinton just picked up the tabbed and there is no evidence on if HRC even had access to the full information. It says it right there your own article you posted..........
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Anyways, moving on.



MEXICO PAYING FOR THE WALL??



No one seems to want to answer that questions..
Answered already. No one cares.

I'd vote for a $10 per paycheck tax just to build the Wall. Mexico will be paying once their people revolt since they can't escape anymore. They will be paying as they see a reduction in Western Union transfers. And they'll likely be paying since the new NAFTA rules will not be as favorable.

Trump never promised they'd write a check if you want to play the semantics game.

I also don't see you crying about Obama promising to keep your doctor or reduce premiums.

Hell, he promised Hope and Change and gave you fucking Hillary (epitome of the same corrupt shit) and Trump (everything Obama and his supporters hate). Ain't that a broken fucking promise.



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Corbic, has ANYONE from the DNC or the HRC campaign been charged?? I know of 5 (4 of which from the trump campaign alone) who HAVE been charged......It says it right above
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Ok. Did the GOP pay for the Mueller investigation?? That was a bipartisan effort by Congress and was NOT what led to the the Mueller investigation



Corbic, read your own article. I will make sure to bolt, underline and italic it as you seem to not want to read past the headline







I will even pull the actual paragraph for you here



Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the company in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS's research into Trump was funded by an unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.



Originally funded by an unknown Republican client. Clinton just picked up the tabbed and there is no evidence on if HRC even had access to the full information. It says it right there your own article you posted..........
UNKNOWN Republicans?!!!? Clearly must be true.

Go back and read my blasting of thr Establishment RINOs.

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Corbic, has ANYONE from the DNC or the HRC campaign been charged?? I know of 5 (4 of which from the trump campaign alone) who HAVE been charged......It says it right above
That supports my statement...

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From 08 to 2016, Obama brought us back from the worse recession in recent history.

But, OBAMA IS NOT PRESIDENT!! HRC IS NOT PRESIDENT!! We are talking about trump. Stop changing the topic

MEXICO PAY FOR THE WALL YET?? YOU MAD BRO?? TRIGGER BRO??


Hahahhaah! Anyways
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4 or 5 FROM THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN! Its in my list above lol
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Hahhahah! Dude
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Your citing Snopes?

You want me to take you seriously? Can I use Info Wars as a credible source then?

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UNKNOWN Republicans?!!!? Clearly must be true.

Go back and read my blasting of thr Establishment RINOs.

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So wait, you believe the headline, but don't believe the snippet about unknown republicans initially funding the research? Wait what?!?! You cannot just pick choose and refuse what you want to present out of context from an article. That is NOT how any of this works.........
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From 08 to 2016, Obama brought us back from the worse recession in recent history.

But, OBAMA IS NOT PRESIDENT!! HRC IS NOT PRESIDENT!! We are talking about trump. Stop changing the topic

MEXICO PAY FOR THE WALL YET?? YOU MAD BRO?? TRIGGER BRO??


Hahahhaah! Anyways
You mean he created the worst recession... Failed to deliver a single campaign promises and wasted trillions..

But hey, let's not bring up that "inconvient truth"! We have Russian Spies to find!

I guess it makes sense the left now hates Russia since they are no lo ger communists.

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Your citing Snopes?

You want me to take you seriously? Can I use Info Wars as a credible source then?

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Snope or not, the information about his security detail is entirely true. Want me to grab anther source with the same corroborating info??
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Corbic, have a good day dude. Mexico pay for the wall yet??
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Answered already. No one cares.

If no one cares, why did trump campaign on that single topic for 95% of his campaign?? You are talking about Obama not delivering, this right here, is trump NOT DELIVERING on his campaign promise.

Hahahahaha! But hey, atleast trump doesnt wear tan suits, AMIRITE??

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So wait, you believe the headline, but don't believe the snippet about unknown republicans initially funding the research? Wait what?!?! You cannot just pick choose and refuse what you want to present out of context from an article. That is NOT how any of this works.........
Serious question.

Are you retarded?

I'm being serious.

You have a leftist news source, who has blatent irrefutable facts, and agrees to them... But because they are so damning to their cause, tosses out an unsubstantiated theory.

That's like me saying "Hitler led the Nazi party, but we think he was possessed by aliens according to unknown sources".

Even if a "Republican" started it, that still does not justify the DNC running with it, giving it to the media, and DNC supporting agents within the FBI using its existence as evidence to support opening an investigation that's yet to find a single piece of proof to the original claimed crime.

Plenty of Republicans are just Democrats in disquies because they are from Conservative districts. John McCain is an outstanding example. Hence Republican In Name Only (RINO).

Don't for a minute think my hatred of Nazis, Commies and Socialists means I'm a defender of the GOP.


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Yes. The "..... blatant irrefutable facts, and agrees to them..." is that an unknown GOP originally paid for the research. It is not only "leftist" sites posting this. This has been widely known for some time now. Why do you dismiss that single snippet of information, but quick to use the headline of the same story to explain away your argument??

And no, I am not retarded. You claimed HRC and the DNC initially paid for the research. You posted an article which refutes this. I point this out. The you say "how can you believe that piece of information?!!?"

But yet, you call me retarded

This is how "debates" go 100% of the time with staunch trump supporters They state something. I deny it with facts. They present some random out of context statement from an article which refutes their very point. I call them out on it. Then it immediately goes to name calling (by calling me retarded). I have YET to call anyone (including your Corbic) by random disrespectful names in this thread. But yet, I get called names all the time.

That is not how respectful conversation occurs..........but please do continue to call me names. Doesn't deny the fact the wall is NOT being paid for by Mexico and there is signs of collusion with the trump campaign.

Thanks for your input.
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You mean he created the worst recession... Failed to deliver a single campaign promises and wasted trillions..

But hey, let's not bring up that "inconvient truth"! We have Russian Spies to find!

I guess it makes sense the left now hates Russia since they are no lo ger communists.

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I was willing to drop it, but Please explain to me how Obama created a recession.

The US was waging war, and the housing market crashed due greedy bankers because of laxed banking regulation and the SEC turning a blind eye. I would LOVE to see you explain how Obama created the recession PRIOR to him becoming president.

I will sit here and wait for cold hard facts to support this..........Because there is NO WHERE on the web which supports this.

Obama was stuck between a rock and hard place. Bail out Auto Manufacturers, not upset the banking industry and somehow stimulate the economy, all while having to deal with a war the US essentially started in the middle east (go read about Operation Cylone; Operation Cyclone was the code name for the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) program to arm and finance the mujahideen, in Afghanistan from 1979 to 1989, prior to and during the military intervention by the USSR ).

I would love how you explain a way a war (for example) Obama started when he was 18 years old and still in school or the banking industry which began unscrupulous practices well before the 2008 crash (essentially began a decade prior to 2008, so 10 years prior to Obama's reign).

That single statement that Obama was the cause of the recession is the most ridiculous and inane thing you have posted to date............
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Yes. The "..... blatant irrefutable facts, and agrees to them..." is that an unknown GOP originally paid for the research. It is not only "leftist" sites posting this. This has been widely known for some time now. Why do you dismiss that single snippet of information, but quick to use the headline of the same story to explain away your argument??

And no, I am not retarded. You claimed HRC and the DNC initially paid for the research. You posted an article which refutes this. I point this out. The you say "how can you believe that piece of information?!!?"

But yet, you call me retarded

This is how "debates" go 100% of the time with staunch trump supporters They state something. I deny it with facts. They present some random out of context statement from an article which refutes their very point. I call them out on it. Then it immediately goes to name calling (by calling me retarded). I have YET to call anyone (including your Corbic) by random disrespectful names in this thread. But yet, I get called names all the time.

That is not how respectful conversation occurs..........but please do continue to call me names. Doesn't deny the fact the wall is NOT being paid for by Mexico and there is signs of collusion with the trump campaign.

Thanks for your input.
The problem is I'm not calling you names. I'm asking an actual honest question.

You act as if you have a learning disability. You are transfixed on the fact that someone failed to report income from 2012 on their taxes as proof of a a Russian plot.

You are fixed on Mexico writing a check for a wall. I've said several times in this thread, I don't care. Anyone supporting thr wall, does not care.

Trump saying that or not does nothing to invalidate the need for the wall.

You are hooked on the nuances and are unable to see the big picture. This is what people with autism do.

"Facts" show a wall will have an impact and it will be cost effective. Go watch the video I posted above.

That's the end of the argument.

No one has claimed it will stop all drugs, all illegal immigration and cure cancer. The fact that it can't do all that and give out free blowjobs does not mean it should not be built.

The fact that a political campaign Manger is a douche (shock) does not prove Trump is a Mancurian Cadidate or that a wall should not. E built.

The entire Mueller case boils down to this.

Someone acuses you, RalliartRsX, of being a Chinese Spie and a traitor! They post that on Facebook and then I go "wow, it's on the internet, it must be true! I need to investigate"

So I investigate you. I find out that you failed to report out of state internet purchases on your taxes and you didn't report the profit from the last car you sold as income. I threaten you with 15 years in prison for committing fraud on your taxes. You plead guilty, take a 14 day sentence and I proclaim "I knew he was a POS, thanks Facebook!!".

I'm under no delusion that no amount of facts, evidence, arguements etc will convince you that the wall should be built and that Orange Man Not So Bad.







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And yet no proof Obama started a recession.

Not even the GOP wants the wall as they voted against it today in the Senate....

Who wants the wall again??

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/01/24/...wall-bill.html

The Dem bill fared slightly better, although ultimately both failed on the vine....

What a ducking mess....no one really wants the wall ultimately lol.

Sad....
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MEXICO PAYING FOR THE WALL YET??




Still no proof Obama started the recession
Still no proof any DNC or HRC is in cohorts with Russia
The GOP voted against the wall TWICE
And Roger Stone gets arrested by the FBI. Go ahead and add him to the list of trumpanzees who is arrested.....

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So lets recap

1) GOP votes AGAINST the wall
2) trump's adviser gets FBI raid. You should read he indictment.
3) trump caves and opens the government for 3 weeks without his wall funding........wall funding the GOP voted against TWICE in as many months

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