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Mr. Phonso · 11-17-2012, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526

S15 HLSD's have 30 spline output shafts where S13 and S14 open diffs have 29 spline output shafts. The Axle Bolt pattern is the same Triangle pattern as an S13 or S14.

So I can use my 240sx triangle pattern axles on an s15 hlsd?

BiG MiKE86 · 11-19-2012, 06:40 AM

is anyone running a megasquirt + 2j? Thoughts?

CDD200 · 11-19-2012, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Phonso

So I can use my 240sx triangle pattern axles on an s15 hlsd?

Yes it bolts up like stock, might have to shorten drive shaft if the car is not Abs

Mr. Phonso · 11-19-2012, 06:29 PM

Is that what you're using in your 2jz setup? r154?

Xicor01 · 11-19-2012, 06:48 PM

Hey i was thinking that since we need a usdm Water Pump for this swap could we go down to the junkyard and grab a 2jz water pump from a lexus, it may be a ge but it should still fit the block right?

Flicktitty · 11-19-2012, 07:12 PM

honestly, at the price of a Waterpump $60 from a part store, or $155 from Toyota. There is no reason to take off a used 100K + Mile waterpump. If you don't have the money to buy a new one you shouldn't do the swap.

Xicor01 · 11-19-2012, 07:15 PM

i was just looking at the price on ebay or other places and everyone wanted 155 dollars, in no way did i say i dont have the money. but if everyone is complaining about a 10k investment in this swap i dont see why we arn't trying to find more affordable way of doing it rather than saying, oh well, it is what it is.

2muchboost · 11-19-2012, 07:39 PM

The water pump for a 2jge and a 2jzgte are different.....The GTE is designed to accommodate the GTE water neck. GE does not and exits out horizontally in comparison the the vertical design of he GTE .

Xicor01 · 11-19-2012, 08:01 PM

Well there you have it, thank you 2muchboost.

BiG MiKE86 · 11-19-2012, 09:42 PM

Shifter extension done by a local shop

2muchboost · 11-20-2012, 07:50 AM

No problem sir...here to help. Now if you were going to replace the oil pump then they are both compatible but I have read that the GTE oil pump has a greater flow capacity....so I opted for the GTE oil pump.

Big Mike86 I see everything is coming along....good progress.

RickS14 · 11-20-2012, 11:32 AM

Just a thougt anyone think the dual pass radiator that koyo offers for the sr is better than a ka radiator that koyo offers?

2muchboost · 11-20-2012, 01:50 PM

As far as the design, fit, application to a 2jz swap? If your asking about the design then typically, a dual pass radiator is more effective at heat transfer then a single pass. If your talking about application then it seems that it would be most convenient as far plumbing since the rad entrance tube (not technical terminology) is on the passenger side of the rad. If you were to fab up the 2jzgte water neck so that it does not cross over the front of the engine such as Ben Freed has...that would be ideal in my opinion.

» Freed’s 240sx. | SNTRL

RickS14 · 11-20-2012, 03:28 PM

My thing is a lot of people run in to cooling issues.im probably going 1jz cause I don't wanna spend 1000 for a r154 (that's the price quotes I'm getting)and its hard to find used ones.being that the necks in and out are on the same side(ka) is that why you think so many people have cooling issues?
Every car I ever looked under the hood Of a Factory spec car I have always seen radiator inlet and outlets are always opposite side never above each other.do you do you get were I'm getting with this? So do you think that ka radiators are really not allowing true flow thru the radiator? I'm in process of a swap I just wanna do it right the first time.thanks for the input also.

Flicktitty · 11-20-2012, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickS14

My thing is a lot of people run in to cooling issues.im probably going 1jz cause I don't wanna spend 1000 for a r154 (that's the price quotes I'm getting)and its hard to find used ones.being that the necks in and out are on the same side(ka) is that why you think so many people have cooling issues?
Every car I ever looked under the hood Of a Factory spec car I have always seen radiator inlet and outlets are always opposite side never above each other.do you do you get were I'm getting with this? So do you think that ka radiators are really not allowing true flow thru the radiator? I'm in process of a swap I just wanna do it right the first time.thanks for the input also.

I think the cooling issue people have is they are cheap. I was fighting cooling issues for the first few years. It's all on the setup and parts you use.

Koyo KA Radiator
Flex-a-lite 410/420 Series Electric fans with shroud
TRD 160 Thermostat
Toyota Coolant
Redline Water Wetter
Oil cooler
Car has ZERO issues now with running cool, even running and doing multiple dyno runs in a 100+ Degreet shop. I think the issue lies with people running cheap dual 10" or 12" fans without a shroud. Running whatever coolant is on sale this week at the local part shop, a part store thermostat and a second hand radiator. I had a CXRacing radiator,OEM Thermostat,no oil cooler,Toyota coolant and water wetter with 2 12" fans and had issues, i decided to redo it, So glad i did it i don't know why i even tried "cheap" crap.

Tech2 Motorsports started off these swaps using a modified SR20DET KOYO radiator and moved the water neck over so they could use off the shelf MKIV Toyota Supra radiator hoses. So yes it will work.

CDD200 · 11-20-2012, 04:46 PM

Has anyone installed a hks fcd, what was it set on? Just did mine and it will not run right way too rich or way too lean....

2muchboost · 11-20-2012, 06:58 PM

No I think the cooling issue is inadequate air movement + lack of quality parts as noted by Flick. The list of parts has been proven to work even for folks down in Florida. The radiator inlet/outlet location would not create enough of a difference to create significant temp differences. The location of the inlet/outlet would be an aesthetic choice and ease of access to he front of the motor space thing.

2js run hot...bottom line. So buy quality parts, create ducts to channel air movement across cooling parts, and use quality fluids and you should be good. But Dual Pass rads are still more efficient

2stepGoesPowPow · 11-20-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CDD200

Yes it bolts up like stock, might have to shorten drive shaft if the car is not Abs

sounds like the way to go, I am now in the market for a S15 diff lol, and then after its in i guess ill just measure and have a custom driveshaft made? also the S15 diff seems like a great diff for the occasional drifter too: [not so great quaity but gets the point across]

s14 Drift S15 Helical Diff - YouTube

Flicktitty · 11-20-2012, 09:04 PM

Since we are on the topic of S15 Diff swaps, Does anyone on here have a S15 Diff with the S15 gear/pinion to give the car a 3.69 Gear ratio? Seems most people leave the S13/S14 4.08 in the pumpkin.

RickS14 · 11-21-2012, 08:00 AM

Ok cool thanks for the input guys.
This has to be the most helpful thread ever.

BiG MiKE86 · 11-21-2012, 02:00 PM

cxracing.com: Oil Line Fitting kit Toyota Supra 1JZGTE 2JZGTE Single Turbo An10 AN4

Anyone use this kit?

CDD200 · 11-21-2012, 07:44 PM

^wow i got the oil line kit from driftmotion for $175.00 lol, that is cheap

^^^yes i have the complete s15 hlsd with the 3.69, its great, lets you stay in the gas more with less shifts

any one with the HKS FCD?? my car is trying to idle at 10:1 afr not good...

BiG MiKE86 · 11-22-2012, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDD200

^wow i got the oil line kit from driftmotion for $175.00 lol, that is cheap

^^^yes i have the complete s15 hlsd with the 3.69, its great, lets you stay in the gas more with less shifts

any one with the HKS FCD?? my car is trying to idle at 10:1 afr not good...

Yeah it is cheap and thats what Im worried about

Flicktitty · 11-22-2012, 11:54 AM

I'd be leary of that kit, Why not build your own?

BiG MiKE86 · 11-22-2012, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flicktitty

I'd be leary of that kit, Why not build your own?

Ive been doing research on what fittings are what so Broadfield can quote me those lines/fittings. Do you know what fittings go on the block/turbo?

Mr. Phonso · 11-22-2012, 09:52 PM

Chase Bays Tucked Aluminum Radiator - Nissan 240sx - ChaseBays.com

Anyone here run this radiator? Might be a good option for those that don't have their ac condenser anymore.

91ka24 · 11-23-2012, 10:22 AM

heres a pic of my completed swap. very happy with the way it runs, now I cant wait to go single and clean up the engine bay some!!

s13Kurt · 11-23-2012, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91ka24

heres a pic of my completed swap. very happy with the way it runs, now I cant wait to go single and clean up the engine bay some!!

Do you know what you have tied up in the swap if you don't mind me asking? or pm me.

s13Kurt · 11-23-2012, 01:24 PM

Also has anybody had any experience with the holset hx52 ? I think i would be perfect for my goal of 500 on pump gas with decent spool.

91ka24 · 11-23-2012, 01:45 PM

I have about 5-5500 in the entire swap. I did all the wiring, install, etc.. so that definitely saved me some money.

11-19-2012, 06:40 AM	#902
BiG MiKE86 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Age: 38 Posts: 1,776 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	is anyone running a megasquirt + 2j? Thoughts? __________________

11-19-2012, 07:12 PM	#906
Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 37 Posts: 3,685 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	honestly, at the price of a Waterpump $60 from a part store, or $155 from Toyota. There is no reason to take off a used 100K + Mile waterpump. If you don't have the money to buy a new one you shouldn't do the swap. __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo

11-19-2012, 09:42 PM	#910
BiG MiKE86 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Age: 38 Posts: 1,776 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Shifter extension done by a local shop __________________

11-20-2012, 11:32 AM	#912
RickS14 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: CLEVELAND Posts: 218 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Dual pass Just a thougt anyone think the dual pass radiator that koyo offers for the sr is better than a ka radiator that koyo offers?

11-20-2012, 03:28 PM	#914
RickS14 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: CLEVELAND Posts: 218 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Good point My thing is a lot of people run in to cooling issues.im probably going 1jz cause I don't wanna spend 1000 for a r154 (that's the price quotes I'm getting)and its hard to find used ones.being that the necks in and out are on the same side(ka) is that why you think so many people have cooling issues? Every car I ever looked under the hood Of a Factory spec car I have always seen radiator inlet and outlets are always opposite side never above each other.do you do you get were I'm getting with this? So do you think that ka radiators are really not allowing true flow thru the radiator? I'm in process of a swap I just wanna do it right the first time.thanks for the input also.

11-19-2012, 06:29 PM	#904
Mr. Phonso Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: toronto Posts: 315 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Is that what you're using in your 2jz setup? r154?

11-19-2012, 06:48 PM	#905
Xicor01 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Terre Haute Age: 32 Posts: 218 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Hey i was thinking that since we need a usdm Water Pump for this swap could we go down to the junkyard and grab a 2jz water pump from a lexus, it may be a ge but it should still fit the block right?

11-19-2012, 07:15 PM	#907
Xicor01 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Terre Haute Age: 32 Posts: 218 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	i was just looking at the price on ebay or other places and everyone wanted 155 dollars, in no way did i say i dont have the money. but if everyone is complaining about a 10k investment in this swap i dont see why we arn't trying to find more affordable way of doing it rather than saying, oh well, it is what it is.

11-19-2012, 07:39 PM	#908
2muchboost Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Age: 40 Posts: 2,183 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	The water pump for a 2jge and a 2jzgte are different.....The GTE is designed to accommodate the GTE water neck. GE does not and exits out horizontally in comparison the the vertical design of he GTE .

11-19-2012, 08:01 PM	#909
Xicor01 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Terre Haute Age: 32 Posts: 218 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Well there you have it, thank you 2muchboost.

11-20-2012, 07:50 AM	#911
2muchboost Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Age: 40 Posts: 2,183 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	No problem sir...here to help. Now if you were going to replace the oil pump then they are both compatible but I have read that the GTE oil pump has a greater flow capacity....so I opted for the GTE oil pump. Big Mike86 I see everything is coming along....good progress.

11-20-2012, 01:50 PM	#913
2muchboost Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Age: 40 Posts: 2,183 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	As far as the design, fit, application to a 2jz swap? If your asking about the design then typically, a dual pass radiator is more effective at heat transfer then a single pass. If your talking about application then it seems that it would be most convenient as far plumbing since the rad entrance tube (not technical terminology) is on the passenger side of the rad. If you were to fab up the 2jzgte water neck so that it does not cross over the front of the engine such as Ben Freed has...that would be ideal in my opinion. » Freed’s 240sx. \| SNTRL

11-20-2012, 04:46 PM	#916
CDD200 Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ga Age: 43 Posts: 81 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Has anyone installed a hks fcd, what was it set on? Just did mine and it will not run right way too rich or way too lean.... __________________ 93 s13 coupe 5 speed- Ls2 swap in the works 97 sc300-gte/v160

11-20-2012, 06:58 PM	#917
2muchboost Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Age: 40 Posts: 2,183 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	No I think the cooling issue is inadequate air movement + lack of quality parts as noted by Flick. The list of parts has been proven to work even for folks down in Florida. The radiator inlet/outlet location would not create enough of a difference to create significant temp differences. The location of the inlet/outlet would be an aesthetic choice and ease of access to he front of the motor space thing. 2js run hot...bottom line. So buy quality parts, create ducts to channel air movement across cooling parts, and use quality fluids and you should be good. But Dual Pass rads are still more efficient

11-20-2012, 09:04 PM	#919
Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 37 Posts: 3,685 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Since we are on the topic of S15 Diff swaps, Does anyone on here have a S15 Diff with the S15 gear/pinion to give the car a 3.69 Gear ratio? Seems most people leave the S13/S14 4.08 in the pumpkin. __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo

11-21-2012, 08:00 AM	#920
RickS14 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: CLEVELAND Posts: 218 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Thanks Ok cool thanks for the input guys. This has to be the most helpful thread ever.

11-21-2012, 02:00 PM	#921
BiG MiKE86 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Age: 38 Posts: 1,776 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	cxracing.com: Oil Line Fitting kit Toyota Supra 1JZGTE 2JZGTE Single Turbo An10 AN4 Anyone use this kit? __________________

11-21-2012, 07:44 PM	#922
CDD200 Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ga Age: 43 Posts: 81 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^wow i got the oil line kit from driftmotion for $175.00 lol, that is cheap ^^^yes i have the complete s15 hlsd with the 3.69, its great, lets you stay in the gas more with less shifts any one with the HKS FCD?? my car is trying to idle at 10:1 afr not good... __________________ 93 s13 coupe 5 speed- Ls2 swap in the works 97 sc300-gte/v160

11-22-2012, 11:54 AM	#924
Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 37 Posts: 3,685 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I'd be leary of that kit, Why not build your own? __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo

11-22-2012, 09:52 PM	#926
Mr. Phonso Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: toronto Posts: 315 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Chase Bays Tucked Aluminum Radiator - Nissan 240sx - ChaseBays.com Anyone here run this radiator? Might be a good option for those that don't have their ac condenser anymore.

11-23-2012, 10:22 AM	#927
91ka24 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Oklahoma city, ok Age: 35 Posts: 414 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	heres a pic of my completed swap. very happy with the way it runs, now I cant wait to go single and clean up the engine bay some!!

11-23-2012, 01:24 PM	#929
s13Kurt Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: georgia Posts: 224 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Also has anybody had any experience with the holset hx52 ? I think i would be perfect for my goal of 500 on pump gas with decent spool.

11-23-2012, 01:45 PM	#930
91ka24 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Oklahoma city, ok Age: 35 Posts: 414 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	I have about 5-5500 in the entire swap. I did all the wiring, install, etc.. so that definitely saved me some money. __________________ Follow me on Ig- Andydennington