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slider2828 · 03-10-2012, 12:16 PM

Really? damn on my track days, the xp12's on my 300zx's are cooking my rotors by the end of the day... I had to put in ducting.... Works great now....

The XP8's cook my rear rotors almost....

Have to think about that upgrade after engine build.

codyace · 03-10-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by slider2828

Really? damn on my track days, the xp12's on my 300zx's are cooking my rotors by the end of the day... I had to put in ducting.... Works great now....

The XP8's cook my rear rotors almost....

Have to think about that upgrade after engine build.

When I was on the stock 300zx stuff, I'd agree that I'd end up getting them hot and they'd have a hard time working as intended. Going to the 12/10 helped the setup, as did going to the larger rotor (better internal venting on the Cobra rotor too).

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Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

The pad is huge and the calipers, brackets and hats are nice and stiff so it's easy to modulate.

That's another benefit of them...it just seemed that car was just easier to bring down from speed with this new setup. Then again it's a full optioned s14 too, so I've got an easy 400 on your car with me in it (scarey to know the weight difference). I can say this though, the DefSport Wilwood setup works damn good, at least up to 5th gear limiter so far

0wn3r · 03-10-2012, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by codyace

That's another benefit of them...it just seemed that car was just easier to bring down from speed with this new setup. Then again it's a full optioned s14 too, so I've got an easy 400 on your car with me in it (scarey to know the weight difference). I can say this though, the DefSport Wilwood setup works damn good, at least up to 5th gear limiter so far

What are you running for rears? I'm struggling over here trying to figure out what rear setup to pair up with that same front kit. I still have the stock S14 rears... I'm a little worried about bias, but the S14 auto booster may be able to correct some of that?

In a way, I'd like to get the Z32 rears and the 1" BMC, but that rear parking brake assembly looks like a PITA and truthfully I'd prefer to rebuilt/reman'd calipers.

I've seen the ArizonaZ brake page, but I dunno...I prefer an e-brake over a line lock in case I ever wind up trying out drifting.

I suppose I should be posting pics here to qualify the other half of posting in this thread lol.

codyace · 03-10-2012, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 0wn3r

What are you running for rears? I'm struggling over here trying to figure out what rear setup to pair up with that same front kit. I still have the stock S14 rears... I'm a little worried about bias, but the S14 auto booster may be able to correct some of that?

In a way, I'd like to get the Z32 rears and the 1" BMC, but that rear parking brake assembly looks like a PITA and truthfully I'd prefer to rebuilt/reman'd calipers.

I'm running stock S14 calipers on Altima rotors, with the XP12 pads. S14 Manual booster+Z31 M/C to keep the split similar to the JDM Silvia K car combo. Then again my feel may be off as I'm used to shitty car setups, but if this works (comfortably) at 160+ at the Glen, I'm totally fine with it. And that's not even at 20 psi either. I'd say every track sees me at least at 140mph minimum, and the brakes have never had a problem.

Ralliart4 · 03-11-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by codyace

I'm running stock S14 calipers on Altima rotors, with the XP12 pads. S14 Manual booster+Z31 M/C to keep the split similar to the JDM Silvia K car combo. Then again my feel may be off as I'm used to shitty car setups, but if this works (comfortably) at 160+ at the Glen, I'm totally fine with it. And that's not even at 20 psi either. I'd say every track sees me at least at 140mph minimum, and the brakes have never had a problem.

Yezzer, that altima rear rotor is a gem of a rear brake option and can be done for almost no cost at all. I run the z33 tracks with z32 calipers and the altima/z31 rears with no problems.. the only thing i may be short of is a slightly stronger master cylinder.

codyace · 03-11-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralliart4

Yezzer, that altima rear rotor is a gem of a rear brake option and can be done for almost no cost at all. I run the z33 tracks with z32 calipers and the altima/z31 rears with no problems.. the only thing i may be short of is a slightly stronger master cylinder.

I've contemplated going with the 1" MC, but I don't have any wierd front or rear lock up issues...which is what leads me to beleive I've got the knee/splint point sorted. I've contemplated an auto booster though too.

But yes, that rear Altima rotor setup works so well. I wasn't up to pay for the Z32 setup, nor deal with the lines/e brake stuff at all. It was the next best thing IMO. Sure a vented rotor would be cool, but I'm not cooking them. I hate to sound cocky, but if I'm not having an issue, I don't see how others could be.

slider2828 · 03-11-2012, 09:14 PM

I cook them pretty easily... with xp10's out back though

meimeilarry · 04-01-2012, 11:58 PM

Why are you going with the Buddy club coil overs? Are they valved for race tires? I was told that none of the JDM coil overs are properly valved for race tires. Even the Zeal super functions say recomended for semi slick use.

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Fuego · 04-23-2012, 08:33 PM

Had my first track event this weekend at the outside road course in Vegas. I was actually surprised the 2-way didnt really cause any problems. I was running damn hot though seeing temps of 250 after four laps. Do SRs normally run that hot? I was considering v mount anyway, but not this soon.

The only video I've found so far is from a gopro in someone elses car, but I figure it's better than nothing. Not my fastest lap either since we were still being paced by an instructor.
I come into frame a little after 2:50

slider2828 · 04-23-2012, 09:15 PM

What cooling are you running? But nope, I run a GT2871R at 19PSI on the track and get no higher than about 85-90 Celsius...

Swirl Pot, Distilled Water + WaterWetter Only, Koyo Rad, Stance Oversized Water Pump pulley, Oil Cooler...

Done...

*hOngsterr* · 04-23-2012, 10:18 PM

have you seen this guy yet?

pretty quick for what he has
and thats his second time on that track with the s14, first time he went on that track with that car he also did a 2:08.

Kirin · 04-23-2012, 10:46 PM

^ that civic in front of him is pretty darn fast.

*hOngsterr* · 05-02-2012, 01:54 AM

4/8/12

im going to play again in june!

Fuego · 05-02-2012, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by slider2828

What cooling are you running? But nope, I run a GT2871R at 19PSI on the track and get no higher than about 85-90 Celsius...

Swirl Pot, Distilled Water + WaterWetter Only, Koyo Rad, Stance Oversized Water Pump pulley, Oil Cooler...

Done...

Sorry, just saw this. Mostly factory stuff GSP fmic, Koyo rad, dual fans, and a colder thermostat and oil cooler on the way.

Mesarina · 05-02-2012, 08:45 AM

which dual fans?

stance2828, does the stance oversized water pump pulley really works? at what rpms do you shift at? still running fan clutch I guess..

driftthis · 05-03-2012, 07:11 AM

What colder (coolant) thermostats are you guys running? What are the alternatives for sr20dets? Any experience with Cosworth thermostats?

t0mmyd · 05-03-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hOngsterr

have you seen this guy yet?

pretty quick for what he has
and thats his second time on that track with the s14, first time he went on that track with that car he also did a 2:08.

thats sickk!

i was at buttonwillow track on april 21st. it was my first time track, but it was awesome. i only saw one fellow 240 there though. a whit kouki

*hOngsterr* · 05-16-2012, 01:12 AM

who wants to drive SOW on july 7/8th? lmk i got a code for 95 bucks with free timing and food.

also did someone sign up for BW june 3rd?

jacobzking · 05-16-2012, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by driftthis

What colder (coolant) thermostats are you guys running? What are the alternatives for sr20dets? Any experience with Cosworth thermostats?

i don't think you can go wrong with Nismo.

tougetuned · 05-29-2012, 01:30 AM

What is everyone here using for DIY alignments? Besides string..

slider2828 · 05-29-2012, 10:25 AM

There is a set from Longacre, but usually I just got to a race shop....

nickdk · 06-01-2012, 05:30 PM

I would pay the money to have it setup by a shop.... the entire sport of road racing is expensive. Alignments are $100-$200.. if you are going to spend the massive heaps of cash necessary to go to the track you might as well spend the extra hundred bucks and get it done right.

After its done mark all of your bolts on your suspension so you can tell in your pre track inspection if anything has moved. Until you either change something or something moves you don't have to mess with it...

vehicle336 · 06-06-2012, 09:08 PM

Just went to get mine corner weighted and balanced and professionally aligned. It's worth it to me to make sure everything is set right the first time. Also, it's a good way to have a definitive base before you start making changes.

codyace · 06-07-2012, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by scs13

What is everyone here using for DIY alignments? Besides string..

A SmartStrings setup and a digital caster/camber gauge is well worth the investment. Mine's paid for itself countless times.

codyace · 06-07-2012, 09:27 AM

NJMP Memorial Day Weekend. THunderbolt.

Car ran great, cracked rotor ended the day though

slider2828 · 06-07-2012, 09:51 AM

Cracked rotor? was it heat or was it not a good brand? That sucks man

codyace · 06-07-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by slider2828

Cracked rotor? was it heat or was it not a good brand? That sucks man

WilWood Ultralight Rotor

I'm sure it's from heat or stress, but who really knows. Only a few events on them too.

SicBastard · 06-07-2012, 11:19 AM

Looks like it's time to step up to hd48 rotors. I presume those are the gt32s?

slider2828 · 06-07-2012, 12:16 PM

Damn gotta pay to play.... are they a lot better than Z32 with cooling ducts and XP14s?

codyace · 06-07-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SicBastard

Looks like it's time to step up to hd48 rotors. I presume those are the gt32s?

That's what I just did

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Originally Posted by slider2828

Damn gotta pay to play.... are they a lot better than Z32 with cooling ducts and XP14s?

These brakes BLOW the Z32 setup out of the water. Better modulation, better force...everything. Cheaper in general too!

03-10-2012, 12:16 PM	#871
slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Really? damn on my track days, the xp12's on my 300zx's are cooking my rotors by the end of the day... I had to put in ducting.... Works great now.... The XP8's cook my rear rotors almost.... Have to think about that upgrade after engine build. __________________ Turn and Burn!

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slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I cook them pretty easily... with xp10's out back though __________________ Turn and Burn!

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Fuego Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Las Vegas Age: 34 Posts: 629 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Had my first track event this weekend at the outside road course in Vegas. I was actually surprised the 2-way didnt really cause any problems. I was running damn hot though seeing temps of 250 after four laps. Do SRs normally run that hot? I was considering v mount anyway, but not this soon. The only video I've found so far is from a gopro in someone elses car, but I figure it's better than nothing. Not my fastest lap either since we were still being paced by an instructor. I come into frame a little after 2:50 __________________

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slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	What cooling are you running? But nope, I run a GT2871R at 19PSI on the track and get no higher than about 85-90 Celsius... Swirl Pot, Distilled Water + WaterWetter Only, Koyo Rad, Stance Oversized Water Pump pulley, Oil Cooler... Done... __________________ Turn and Burn!

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driftthis Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 39 Posts: 460 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	What colder (coolant) thermostats are you guys running? What are the alternatives for sr20dets? Any experience with Cosworth thermostats? __________________ ++LUX Auto Brand ++ http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=162960 Last edited by driftthis; 05-03-2012 at 07:55 AM..

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Kirin Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bay Area Posts: 4 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^ that civic in front of him is pretty darn fast.

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Mesarina Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Guatemala Age: 36 Posts: 158 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	which dual fans? stance2828, does the stance oversized water pump pulley really works? at what rpms do you shift at? still running fan clutch I guess..

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slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	There is a set from Longacre, but usually I just got to a race shop.... __________________ Turn and Burn!

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nickdk Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 45 Posts: 13 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would pay the money to have it setup by a shop.... the entire sport of road racing is expensive. Alignments are $100-$200.. if you are going to spend the massive heaps of cash necessary to go to the track you might as well spend the extra hundred bucks and get it done right. After its done mark all of your bolts on your suspension so you can tell in your pre track inspection if anything has moved. Until you either change something or something moves you don't have to mess with it... __________________ 1993 Mazda RX7 w/LS1 V8 Race Car 2011 NASA SE TTU Champion

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vehicle336 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Spocompton, WA Posts: 187 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just went to get mine corner weighted and balanced and professionally aligned. It's worth it to me to make sure everything is set right the first time. Also, it's a good way to have a definitive base before you start making changes.

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slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Cracked rotor? was it heat or was it not a good brand? That sucks man __________________ Turn and Burn!

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SicBastard Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 803 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Looks like it's time to step up to hd48 rotors. I presume those are the gt32s? __________________ BURN OUT IN YOUR FACE! 1998 S14 LS7/T56 swap in progress, build thread: http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/147301...d-gto-pan.html

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slider2828 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,998 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Damn gotta pay to play.... are they a lot better than Z32 with cooling ducts and XP14s? __________________ Turn and Burn!