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Sileighty_85 · 10-17-2011, 06:27 PM

Finished up the Pinout ID and soldering the Plug pins

Sileighty_85 · 10-22-2011, 07:14 PM

Well had to work today so i made the best of it. Stage 1 is done.

I hate that S14's dont have a plug for the cluster harness, So I yanked a S13 one and wired it in the S14 so I can easily switch between the R33 cluster and S14 cluster.

Cut and wired up each wire one by one to make sure nothing got mixed up since there are a few same colored wires.

brought it home for a few touch ups and Bam Works like a charm

Sileighty_85 · 10-23-2011, 05:17 PM

Fuck what a day, Dont think I'll be doing cluster swaps anytime soon :/
Its a little trickier than it looks especially when theres not much info on this.
plus sucks not having a good Soldering Iorn

I had to trace all the tracks on both clusters just to make sure i was wiring it up correctly.

Almost

Done

I can now swap between the R33 cluster and S14 cluster.

Now i just need to wire up the Oil Pressure and Stock Boost meter

Sileighty_85 · 10-23-2011, 06:36 PM

Works like a charm

Matthew Murphy · 10-23-2011, 08:00 PM

bad ass dude. hey are you going to go with a different turbo set up eventually

Sileighty_85 · 10-23-2011, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew Murphy

bad ass dude. hey are you going to go with a different turbo set up eventually

Thanks, Yeah I have a bigger turbo sitting in the house, just need to get some injectors and a PFC

zomgsohc · 10-23-2011, 11:02 PM

Excellent build! I would love to see more of the cluster-swap

Sileighty_85 · 10-24-2011, 06:32 AM

I was gonna try and do a write up but It got a little confusing in the middle
when I was trying to figure out which tracks were positive or negitive, seeing that a few lights are ground triggered.

in the beggining I used this guide for basic location, but then just went for tracing the tracks since there were a few wires not mentioned on here
http://www.nicoclub.com/articles/ima...r_into_S14.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by zomgsohc

Excellent build! I would love to see more of the cluster-swap

Sileighty_85 · 10-24-2011, 08:11 PM

Installed
Fits pretty damn good, just had to mod the top mounting bracket.
Seems the Fuel Gauge is accurate as well as Temps with the OE S14 Sensors

I can move it over slightly so there are no gaps

All thats left is to wire up the boost sensor and Oil pressure

zomgsohc · 10-24-2011, 09:28 PM

That looks awesome! Kudos to your skills!

240Texas · 10-26-2011, 12:37 PM

Wow, this is an awesome thread. This is the kind of swap I want to do.
I am new to this site and new to the thread so excuse me.
When you did the swap did you have issues with the clearence or issues with the shifter during the install?

Sileighty_85 · 10-26-2011, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zomgsohc

That looks awesome! Kudos to your skills!

Thanks, i try to make with what i got.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240Texas

Wow, this is an awesome thread. This is the kind of swap I want to do.
I am new to this site and new to the thread so excuse me.
When you did the swap did you have issues with the clearence or issues with the shifter during the install?

No issues with the Shifter, When using a SYKO Kit and an R33 Crossmember the shifter sit pretty much in the OEM location.

higgzy · 10-27-2011, 08:53 PM

Did you have any difficulty with the sway bar when installing the rb. I bought an s13 with an RB25 in it and have been having many overheating problems. I took out the engine and the sump has been cut they they welded the bit they cut on the side of it as it didn't clear the sway bar.

Sileighty_85 · 10-27-2011, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by higgzy

Did you have any difficulty with the sway bar when installing the rb. I bought an s13 with an RB25 in it and have been having many overheating problems. I took out the engine and the sump has been cut they they welded the bit they cut on the side of it as it didn't clear the sway bar.

I used the SYKO Mount kit with mine, If you get that kit, they give you spacers and you flip the Sway bar to correct that issue.

As far as cooling get a Nismo thermo, N1 Water Pump, Big radiator, and some FAL fans that pull alot of CFM (Its either 2.5K or 25K CFM canot remember)

240Texas · 10-28-2011, 08:12 PM

Great job on the cluster swap. I am new to the seen and a new s14 owner. I am trying to learn as much as I can.

Why an R33 cluster? Are there others that work? Also, is there a guide on the wiring?

Sileighty_85 · 10-29-2011, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240Texas

Great job on the cluster swap. I am new to the seen and a new s14 owner. I am trying to learn as much as I can.

Why an R33 cluster? Are there others that work? Also, is there a guide on the wiring?

Thanks,

The R33 cluster fits good and the Tach is calibrated for the RB, as well as a stock Oil pressure gauge.

You can rewire any cluster into a car, just fitment is an issue

LUCKYxS13 · 10-30-2011, 12:24 AM

Wow i haz jealousy lol. But seriously bro awesome job with the car and the engine!!!

Sileighty_85 · 11-01-2011, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUCKYxS13

Wow i haz jealousy lol. But seriously bro awesome job with the car and the engine!!!

Thanks, I still have a bit to go..

Need new fenders, headlights, Wing, and paint
Power FC, injectors, and tune, Possibly some new control arms...

Highway Riding · 11-01-2011, 07:01 PM

Wow the cluster came out stock as fawk lookin. Very nice work. Congrats and thx for sharing for sure man!

Davetheslave · 11-05-2011, 05:26 PM

How much space did you have between the radiator and motor?

EazyS13 · 11-05-2011, 06:50 PM

nother sweet build brother man

Sileighty_85 · 11-06-2011, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davetheslave

How much space did you have between the radiator and motor?

Probably a little over 1 inch

Quote:

Originally Posted by EazyS13

nother sweet build brother man

Thanks!

Finished wiring up the RB cluster. Now have Oil Pressure and Boost Gauge

Yeah almost kinda pointless, but I like Full Functionality

Stock R33 Boost Sensor

If anyone needs to know the Wire pinouts are
Green/Blue Stripe = Switched 12V
White/Green Stripe = Signal
Red/ Black Stripe = Ground

Bam

Davetheslave · 11-06-2011, 10:13 AM

Sweet then I might just be able to get away with a 3 row radiator when I do my swap. That'd probably leave just under a half inch between the motor and radiator though

schrapnel85 · 03-01-2012, 09:36 PM

So when are you getting up to that 350hp goal? I see raw brokerage is gonna have that modded mani for sale here soon..are you going that route with a bigger turbo,inj, power and tune?

Sileighty_85 · 03-01-2012, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schrapnel85

So when are you getting up to that 350hp goal? I see raw brokerage is gonna have that modded mani for sale here soon..are you going that route with a bigger turbo,inj, power and tune?

Been side tracked so much with my other projects and having issue on finding a PFC for the RB.

I have a turbo already just need ECU and Inj. But all my plans have changed now since I just received orders to go to Misawa Japan for a few years haha

Sileighty_85 · 04-25-2012, 05:41 PM

Me and the Mechanic Keyteh Installed a Tomei FPR on the RB

Seriously though some random cat that hopped up in there

smoked240 · 04-28-2012, 10:46 PM

How are you liking the hyper gear turbo? My car has been running weird and now after I pulled my turbo I'm thinking it could be that. There is about 1/8-1/4 inch shaft play. Is that bad? When my car is under 70 c it runs like shit, sometimes of I step on the gas it will just die out. If it shuts off it won't want to start. If I let it warm up to 70 c it runs good and pulls strong. I'm lost haha. So I have been thinking of ordering a hyper gear turbo.

Sileighty_85 · 04-29-2012, 06:17 PM

I took off the HG turbo I while ago cuz the Stock ECU doesnt like it.
Felt good when I had it on though. Quick and responsive.

That much shaft play on a BB turbo is def not good.

Id look into boost leaks and check ECU for codes

smoked240 · 04-29-2012, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

I took off the HG turbo I while ago cuz the Stock ECU doesnt like it.
Felt good when I had it on though. Quick and responsive.

That much shaft play on a BB turbo is def not good.

Id look into boost leaks and check ECU for codes

Alright. Yeah I don't plan on putting that turbo back on. I'll be picking up a hg when I sell my truck. I haven't tried checking codes. Never had to.

sexcii-zenki · 05-07-2012, 10:39 AM

awesome build man!!!

10-17-2011, 06:27 PM	#391
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Finished up the Pinout ID and soldering the Plug pins __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

10-22-2011, 07:14 PM	#392
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Well had to work today so i made the best of it. Stage 1 is done. I hate that S14's dont have a plug for the cluster harness, So I yanked a S13 one and wired it in the S14 so I can easily switch between the R33 cluster and S14 cluster. Cut and wired up each wire one by one to make sure nothing got mixed up since there are a few same colored wires. brought it home for a few touch ups and Bam Works like a charm __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit Last edited by Sileighty_85; 10-22-2011 at 08:10 PM..

10-23-2011, 05:17 PM	#393
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Fuck what a day, Dont think I'll be doing cluster swaps anytime soon :/ Its a little trickier than it looks especially when theres not much info on this. plus sucks not having a good Soldering Iorn I had to trace all the tracks on both clusters just to make sure i was wiring it up correctly. Almost Done I can now swap between the R33 cluster and S14 cluster. Now i just need to wire up the Oil Pressure and Stock Boost meter __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit Last edited by Sileighty_85; 10-24-2011 at 06:38 AM..

10-23-2011, 06:36 PM	#394
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Works like a charm __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

10-24-2011, 08:11 PM	#399
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Installed Fits pretty damn good, just had to mod the top mounting bracket. Seems the Fuel Gauge is accurate as well as Temps with the OE S14 Sensors I can move it over slightly so there are no gaps All thats left is to wire up the boost sensor and Oil pressure __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

10-23-2011, 08:00 PM	#395
Matthew Murphy Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: houston Age: 32 Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	bad ass dude. hey are you going to go with a different turbo set up eventually

10-23-2011, 11:02 PM	#397
zomgsohc Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Earth Age: 34 Posts: 24 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Excellent build! I would love to see more of the cluster-swap

10-24-2011, 09:28 PM	#400
zomgsohc Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Earth Age: 34 Posts: 24 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That looks awesome! Kudos to your skills!

10-26-2011, 12:37 PM	#401
240Texas Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wow, this is an awesome thread. This is the kind of swap I want to do. I am new to this site and new to the thread so excuse me. When you did the swap did you have issues with the clearence or issues with the shifter during the install?

10-27-2011, 08:53 PM	#403
higgzy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Sydney Posts: 25 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did you have any difficulty with the sway bar when installing the rb. I bought an s13 with an RB25 in it and have been having many overheating problems. I took out the engine and the sump has been cut they they welded the bit they cut on the side of it as it didn't clear the sway bar.

10-28-2011, 08:12 PM	#405
240Texas Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Great job on the cluster swap. I am new to the seen and a new s14 owner. I am trying to learn as much as I can. Why an R33 cluster? Are there others that work? Also, is there a guide on the wiring?

10-30-2011, 12:24 AM	#407
LUCKYxS13 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 26 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Wow i haz jealousy lol. But seriously bro awesome job with the car and the engine!!!

11-01-2011, 07:01 PM	#409
Highway Riding Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Out on the Highway! Posts: 602 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Wow the cluster came out stock as fawk lookin. Very nice work. Congrats and thx for sharing for sure man!

11-05-2011, 05:26 PM	#410
Davetheslave Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Spring Hill Posts: 83 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How much space did you have between the radiator and motor?

11-05-2011, 06:50 PM	#411
EazyS13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 187 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nother sweet build brother man

11-06-2011, 10:13 AM	#413
Davetheslave Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Spring Hill Posts: 83 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sweet then I might just be able to get away with a 3 row radiator when I do my swap. That'd probably leave just under a half inch between the motor and radiator though

03-01-2012, 09:36 PM	#414
schrapnel85 Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: wilkie sk/moose jaw sk, canada Age: 38 Posts: 224 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	So when are you getting up to that 350hp goal? I see raw brokerage is gonna have that modded mani for sale here soon..are you going that route with a bigger turbo,inj, power and tune?

04-25-2012, 05:41 PM	#416
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Me and the Mechanic Keyteh Installed a Tomei FPR on the RB Seriously though some random cat that hopped up in there __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

04-28-2012, 10:46 PM	#417
smoked240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Dakota Age: 33 Posts: 1,067 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	How are you liking the hyper gear turbo? My car has been running weird and now after I pulled my turbo I'm thinking it could be that. There is about 1/8-1/4 inch shaft play. Is that bad? When my car is under 70 c it runs like shit, sometimes of I step on the gas it will just die out. If it shuts off it won't want to start. If I let it warm up to 70 c it runs good and pulls strong. I'm lost haha. So I have been thinking of ordering a hyper gear turbo. __________________

04-29-2012, 06:17 PM	#418
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I took off the HG turbo I while ago cuz the Stock ECU doesnt like it. Felt good when I had it on though. Quick and responsive. That much shaft play on a BB turbo is def not good. Id look into boost leaks and check ECU for codes __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

05-07-2012, 10:39 AM	#420
sexcii-zenki Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2011 Location: neu joyzee Posts: 357 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	awesome build man!!!