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SuperBlackS14 · 02-28-2012, 08:08 PM

It's easier if the walls buckle... Which, unless you've removed some rubber, probably won't happen. I was able to knock it out using the method I described, but you probably couldn't have used the sleeve over again... I skipped the cutting cuz it took too much time, then again, my subframe was bare because I did all the bushings, and it was easier to finagle empty obviously... Sorry you're not having the same luck.

inopsey · 02-29-2012, 07:54 AM

lol at the amount of fail in this thread. anyone ever heard of a hydraulic press? im willing to bet it makes removing bushings from tight places extremely easy.

SuperBlackS14 · 02-29-2012, 09:46 AM

presses are expensive. I used one on one of my bushing's center pieces, and it was only a small one. The Subframe is large and unwieldy, I can sympathize with someone poor who can't be hauling around 100+ lbs of steel (he still has his diff, ect. in).

A press does wonders, if you use it right. After I knocked my sleeves out, I brought it to a local shop to press my new ones in. Because my press was too small and I didn't have the "proper" (read: makeshift) tool to press them in myself. Plus I was burnt out on the whole thing by then... Laziness prevailed.

jperez311 · 03-01-2012, 08:24 AM

I finally did it. Finally. I got the rings out and already installed the aluminum DIF solid bushing in and installed my subframe. All I have to say about the ride is .... Damn! My car is so much better

SuperBlackS14 · 03-01-2012, 08:51 AM

Congrats Man

slydin240sx · 03-01-2012, 08:55 AM

I really need to get mine swapped out with new aluminum ones. My subframe has to much play in it. :/

redline racer510 · 03-01-2012, 09:01 AM

Sorry to thread jack, but the ES poly sub-frame bushings only require to remove the inner sleeve, while the dif aluminum bushings require to remove both inner and outer sleeves?

*ManoNegra* · 03-01-2012, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inopsey

lol at the amount of fail in this thread. anyone ever heard of a hydraulic press? im willing to bet it makes removing bushings from tight places extremely easy.

so you're just speculating or do you actually have experience?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperBlackS14

presses are expensive. I used one on one of my bushing's center pieces, and it was only a small one. The Subframe is large and unwieldy, I can sympathize with someone poor who can't be hauling around 100+ lbs of steel (he still has his diff, ect. in).

A press does wonders, if you use it right. After I knocked my sleeves out, I brought it to a local shop to press my new ones in. Because my press was too small and I didn't have the "proper" (read: makeshift) tool to press them in myself. Plus I was burnt out on the whole thing by then... Laziness prevailed.

I've done this a couple of times
presses aren't the best way to do this, too awkward and a PITA
there's a specific tool made for bushings (look in the FSM) that makes the job cake, THAT is the best way to do it.

I did mine (SPL solids) a few years ago by myself over a weekend
left the bushings in the freezer overnight and used a caliper pad expander with a long threaded rod and washers to pull the bushings with an impact gun.

inopsey · 03-01-2012, 11:51 AM

yah i have a press; took all of 2 minutes to press out the bushing and put in the new one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManoNegra

so you're just speculating or do you actually have experience?

I've done this a couple of times
presses aren't the best way to do this, too awkward and a PITA
there's a specific tool made for bushings (look in the FSM) that makes the job cake, THAT is the best way to do it.

I did mine (SPL solids) a few years ago by myself over a weekend
left the bushings in the freezer overnight and used a caliper pad expander with a long threaded rod and washers to pull the bushings with an impact gun.

jperez311 · 03-01-2012, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redline racer510

Sorry to thread jack, but the ES poly sub-frame bushings only require to remove the inner sleeve, while the dif aluminum bushings require to remove both inner and outer sleeves?

Yea your correct. The s14 has only one sleeve on the rear bushing, then the front bushing has plastic/small metal ring/ big metal ring/ outer sleeve. It was confusing. It seemed like the s14 should have had metal collars already in the bushing from stock. Those things had toooo much gap.

SuperBlackS14 · 03-01-2012, 02:35 PM

I noticed that too... It was a bit odd because Energy Suspension really didn't say that in their S14 Specific Kit/Instructions.

02-28-2012, 08:08 PM	#31
SuperBlackS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Albany, NY Age: 33 Posts: 381 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	It's easier if the walls buckle... Which, unless you've removed some rubber, probably won't happen. I was able to knock it out using the method I described, but you probably couldn't have used the sleeve over again... I skipped the cutting cuz it took too much time, then again, my subframe was bare because I did all the bushings, and it was easier to finagle empty obviously... Sorry you're not having the same luck. __________________ "Power Is Nothing Without Control"

02-29-2012, 09:46 AM	#33
SuperBlackS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Albany, NY Age: 33 Posts: 381 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	presses are expensive. I used one on one of my bushing's center pieces, and it was only a small one. The Subframe is large and unwieldy, I can sympathize with someone poor who can't be hauling around 100+ lbs of steel (he still has his diff, ect. in). A press does wonders, if you use it right. After I knocked my sleeves out, I brought it to a local shop to press my new ones in. Because my press was too small and I didn't have the "proper" (read: makeshift) tool to press them in myself. Plus I was burnt out on the whole thing by then... Laziness prevailed. __________________ "Power Is Nothing Without Control"

03-01-2012, 08:51 AM	#35
SuperBlackS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Albany, NY Age: 33 Posts: 381 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Congrats Man __________________ "Power Is Nothing Without Control"

03-01-2012, 08:55 AM	#36
slydin240sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Missouri Posts: 919 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I really need to get mine swapped out with new aluminum ones. My subframe has to much play in it. :/ Last edited by slydin240sx; 03-01-2012 at 09:35 AM..

03-01-2012, 09:01 AM	#37
redline racer510 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: EARFF(earth for you idiots) Posts: 1,072 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Sorry to thread jack, but the ES poly sub-frame bushings only require to remove the inner sleeve, while the dif aluminum bushings require to remove both inner and outer sleeves? __________________ WARNING: User has a low tolerance for stupidity. Post at your own risk.

02-29-2012, 07:54 AM	#32
inopsey Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: canada Posts: 1,701 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	lol at the amount of fail in this thread. anyone ever heard of a hydraulic press? im willing to bet it makes removing bushings from tight places extremely easy.

03-01-2012, 08:24 AM	#34
jperez311 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Carson CA Age: 31 Posts: 277 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I finally did it. Finally. I got the rings out and already installed the aluminum DIF solid bushing in and installed my subframe. All I have to say about the ride is .... Damn! My car is so much better

03-01-2012, 02:35 PM	#41
SuperBlackS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Albany, NY Age: 33 Posts: 381 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I noticed that too... It was a bit odd because Energy Suspension really didn't say that in their S14 Specific Kit/Instructions. __________________ "Power Is Nothing Without Control"