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Old 08-16-2009, 10:31 PM   #1
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whaaaat!!!??? Damn, that blows.... but, yes.. too vague. This letter doesn't warn the recipient of definite/immediate action.
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that guy needs to cash it in as a clunker...lol
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wow that really sucks is that only for california residents with a kaizo cars or does that include the whole U.S?
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i would register it as a race car for off highway use. i'm gonna call that immigrations and customs enforcement special agent doosh named jeffrey eastman 949-250-1950 xt 230 and bother him with a bucket full of questions. see what he's doing to keep illigal immigrants from running in from mexico, and why this car seems like a problem.... i honestly don't see a problem with these super cars, the gembala or the ruf turbo cars coming in from germany, making gobs of power and some how being epa complient
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wow that really sucks is that only for california residents with a kaizo cars or does that include the whole U.S?
Its Federal, that letter is from the U.S. Attorney's office. Not a State of California . Now is it completely legal? That's hard to say. The U.S. Attorney that wrote it is definitely hesitant in the wording which creates a valid legal challenge in court.
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Its Federal, that letter is from the U.S. Attorney's office. Not a State of California . Now is it completely legal? That's hard to say. The U.S. Attorney that wrote it is definitely hesitant in the wording which creates a valid legal challenge in court.
not only that but if the car was imported in parts there is absolutely nothing wrong with it it ha sbeen discussed many times over on the freshalloy forums
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Wow thats horrible, I wonder if changing it to a "race" car would stop the Feds or are they just trying to find ways to impound these cars. My other question is if they impound all the Skylines and whatnot. What will they do with them? Its not like they can resell them seeing that they are "not road legal" and I dont think US customs can just ship them back to Japan, theres no one there to take them. So what are their plans?
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i thought they had been doing this for a long time
all non R33s needs to be OUT
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Wow thats horrible, I wonder if changing it to a "race" car would stop the Feds or are they just trying to find ways to impound these cars. My other question is if they impound all the Skylines and whatnot. What will they do with them? Its not like they can resell them seeing that they are "not road legal" and I dont think US customs can just ship them back to Japan, theres no one there to take them. So what are their plans?

I'd imagine they would do the same thing that the Car Manufacture's Cash for Clunkers deal would, seizing the motor and not allowing the resale of any of the car's parts, maybe in an attempt to stimulate the consumer purchase of newer cars/parts.

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I never asked this since it's so annoying to hear about imported cars, but why don't people find a p.o.s s13 or s14 and swap all the vins onto their skylines? i mean how can a cop possibly prove that a skyline isn't a 240 w/ extensive fabbing to appear as a skyline?
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I never asked this since it's so annoying to hear about imported cars, but why don't people find a p.o.s s13 or s14 and swap all the vins onto their skylines? i mean how can a cop possibly prove that a skyline isn't a 240 w/ extensive fabbing to appear as a skyline?
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that extensive fabbing and skyline motor would render the vehicle unfit for highway use anyway, so you'd still end up taking it off the street.



it was an r33.

It's extensive fabbing, but there's nothing wrong with that. And i know more friends w/ rb's and sr's then ka's and they've had no problem when a cop popped their hoods. I can see this being a problem in cali, but not at all in ny.
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Sorry if this has be asked already but, How did the Government find out about the car?

Did the owner try to register it, therefore alerting the Government to it's existence?

I'm asking because a friend of mine and I were discussing the possibility of getting an R32 from Canada and using it as a race only chassis and never attempting to register it or drive it on the streets, assuming that the car was never entered into the system, the Government shouldn't know about it's existence. I know California is going to be different from NJ but I'm under the impression that this is a Federal Order to get rid of the car.
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I never asked this since it's so annoying to hear about imported cars, but why don't people find a p.o.s s13 or s14 and swap all the vins onto their skylines? i mean how can a cop possibly prove that a skyline isn't a 240 w/ extensive fabbing to appear as a skyline?
Fraud is worse than having an "illegal" car in the US. You'd go to federal pound you in the ass prison and have some fines.
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First fail was registering it as a skyline, need to register it as a kit car or something so the they cant goverment cant track it, idk, utah is totally diffrent the other states, we can get state issued vin numbers so the fed. gov. cant track a state issued vin, i had a freind register 5 skylines he imported as a Nissan 2door coupe on the title lol... i dont think any of his customers have had any problems with them either...
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cool, i totally didn't know swapping vins was a crime, like really. Can anyone awnser my question?
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Sorry if this has be asked already but, How did the Government find out about the car?

Did the owner try to register it, therefore alerting the Government to it's existence?

I'm asking because a friend of mine and I were discussing the possibility of getting an R32 from Canada and using it as a race only chassis and never attempting to register it or drive it on the streets, assuming that the car was never entered into the system, the Government shouldn't know about it's existence. I know California is going to be different from NJ but I'm under the impression that this is a Federal Order to get rid of the car.
You still need to claim it through customs as a race car i think.
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I always thought you could bring it in as parts and then register it as a kit car.

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