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Old 01-20-2008, 11:05 AM   #1
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Real MPG solution?

Ok i don't really know where to put this since it is a technical article and it does relate to 240sx, but mods if you feel this is wrong please move it appropriately. LINK: http://www.preignitioncc.com/default/index.htm

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WELCOME TO THE PICC REVOLUTION
In Fuel Economy Technology

The PICC, Pre-Ignition Catalytic Converter is a breakthrough new technology that could get your car up to five times the gas mileage! Its genius is its simplicity. Here’s how it works:
Our scientific testing has led us to believe that the PICC will increase the mileage of all personal vehicles to over 100 miles per gallon (city or highway).

Every car has a Catalytic Converter. The Catalytic Converter that is currently installed on your car is intended to help eliminate pollution and is located in your exhaust pipe. It works by breaking down the large gas molecules that were not burned in your engine and turns them into smaller particles that can be burned in your tailpipe before being released into the air, so less exhaust hits the environment. What if we could turn the gases you are throwing away via your exhaust into added mileage and power for your vehicle?
In other words, what if we “cracked” the gas and broke it down into smaller particles before it went into the engine — not after the engine had wasted it? Everything you would otherwise be throwing away would now be burnedIN YOUR ENGINE, providing additional mileage and power! Well, that is what we did! Using a magnetic and electrical reaction to break down the fuel molecules into their elemental state, the PICC creates a plasma, which burns super efficiently and cleanly! Our “Pre-Ignition” Catalytic Converter feeds the engine instead of the environment. So the gasoline you pay for goes further and the exhaust is so negligible it hardly registers.</SPAN>
What Kind of Savings Can Be Achieved?

Can you imagine what being able to burn all the gasoline in your engine would mean to fuel savings? Here’s what our scientific testing has shown: In one test at our Research Facility, we got 9X the fuel efficiency from a gas guzzling 318 V-8 Chrysler engine. We ran a 318 V-8 Chrysler engine on a brand new state of the art dynamometer (the same testing equipment that Detroit uses) at 3,000 rpms under a 50% load for an hour. This test condition approximated an 8 cylinder van with a 318 engine, traveling up a 30 degree incline for one hour, at 65 miles per hour. Before the PICC modification, the engine used 18 pounds of fuel. At an average weight of 6.15 pounds per gallon for gasoline, that would equal 2.93 gallons of fuel. Converting that into miles per gallon, it got around 22 mpg.
The researchers then switched the fuel injection process to the PICC Modification and ran the engine under the exact same conditions for another hour. Now, the engine used only 2 pounds of fuel instead of 18 — an increase in efficiency of 9x. In other words, the vehicle traveling at 65 mph up a 30 degree incline for an hour would have obtained almost 200 mpg! When they shut off the engine, the researchers reported that it coasted on the plasma for another two minutes.
What Does This Mean To You?

This test with a 318 V-8 gas guzzling engine is just the first big V-8 engine that we ran under scientific conditions at our Research Facility. We believe based on results like these that our plasma could revolutionize fuel economy for ALL vehicles — including SUVs and Pickups — that should easily get better than 100 miles per gallon with the PICC. To be able to modify SUVs of any size to get 100 mpg minimal fuel economy will revolutionize the auto industry!
i don't really know how new this is, but if its not i am surprised it hasn't been discussed (i searched). Anyways imagine this in a 240...well for those of you not trying to make gobs of HP
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Old 01-20-2008, 11:34 AM   #2
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Old 01-20-2008, 11:48 AM   #3
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Won't mount up on an s14. At least not in the stock location.

Oh, and they're full of shit.
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but wait....
your telling me that only 1/9 of my gas is combusted in the cylinder????
and the rest just goes out the exhaust????
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If you have the common sense/science knowledge of a 5th grader, you should realized how preposterous this is.
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File this one under "Sounds too good to be true..."
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Yea i know this sounds too good to be true, but it honestly did not fall under the Turbonator category in my head. The science sounds like it is there, but then again im not a scientist HAHA.

Post up more ish if you guys see independent reviews for this. BTW i did see this in a magazine ad so take that for what its worth
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i know a bit about physics and this PICC seems like it could work. and it's definitely not like the TORNAD-ER. that thing was full of crap. i looked up their organization, the United Community Services of America, but i don't know much about marketing, so i can't tell if they're a legitimate group. though they seem to be. they research all kinds of methods to make energy efficient. we'll see what happens though.
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yeah thats bullshit they don't list any real figures or facts. Just another version of "atomization" of fuel, which helps but not a significant amount.
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i know a bit about physics and this PICC seems like it could work. and it's definitely not like the TORNAD-ER.
You do? Where is the energy to ionize the fuel into plasma going to come from?
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It's the atomization of fuel in your cumbustion chambers (from heat) that helps prevent knock. Without that, your definitely going to get pre ignition, but of a different kind.
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Wow, let's just throw the Ideal Gas Law and Boles Law out the window...

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LOL wow that made no sense. kinda like i thought it would. I like his Magnetic non magnetic aluminum piece.
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The more I think of it, the less thrilled I would be with fuel being anywhere near a hot ass catalytic converter.... but the PICC will never exist, and therefore I will not have to worry about it.
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