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HyperTek · 06-26-2005, 01:46 PM

Anyone ever try it? Im swapping my subframe and was thinking if its worth doing or not. Stick a screwdriver in it and see that it flexes a lil bit. I know subframe spacers/collars are made for a reason and I have a set, but was just thinking about this as an added mod/cheap alternative to the more solid aluminum bushing replacements.. ANyone ever do it?

sideview_180sx · 06-26-2005, 02:25 PM

just order the upper pieces. only way to fully take advantage is to either run 8-piece spacers, or the SPL solid spacers. those are the only valid ways to fix the slop in the bushings. unless ES comes out with bushings for S13 subframe. I know they released them for S14 but im not sure if the design is the same b/w them.

m0rex · 06-26-2005, 02:35 PM

He means like the rtv urethane on like fwd engine mounts. I dont know though it might work. I havent even take a look at my subframe.

alkemyst · 06-26-2005, 02:55 PM

my same idea..I get a clunk when I turn to the left for the first time, and then to the right for the first time from the rear...need to get it in the air (next week)...

the 'easy' solutions I have seen are solid urethane or aluminum spacers...these will increase NVH in the cabin easily...I really don't want that.

I also don't want to have to drop the rear of the car to push/torch bushings.

The windoweld solution will add some extra NVH, but I don't think anywhere near the spacer solution.

You will have to let the car sit a few days or more if really filling it.

HyperTek · 06-26-2005, 06:52 PM

please keep the off topic comments out of this thread guys.. unless its a bump .. hehe thanks =D

back on topic.

It looks do-able.
One side of the bushing.

The other side (which shows some depth as what can be filled in )

Twisting with a screw driver to show the flex movement.

Yet i know the flex test probably really isnt much useful since I cant really imagine the subframe twisting at an angle on the car. But Im pretty sure that it can be filled. As long as I dont have the stuff pertrude any further then the metal bushing then it shouldnt have any fitment issues... this mod im hoping would add to complement the usual sub frame spacers.

***S14DB*** · 06-26-2005, 07:50 PM

Do it, Do it!

projectRDM · 06-26-2005, 10:00 PM

Yes you can do it easily. Pour it in and let it harden, then flip it over and do the other side.

And for the other kid who posted about ES bushings, S13/S14/S15 are the same. So are Z32.

**mrmephistopheles** · 06-27-2005, 12:46 AM

urethane is cheap. do it. it can't hurt.

sw20>>s14 · 06-27-2005, 03:13 AM

worked for my friends' engine mounts...why not give it a try...

HyperTek · 06-29-2005, 10:49 PM

gangsta chet! post pics later, hopefully ill swap new subframe installed tomarrow... i wanna paint the subframe tho so it can be bling bling. noticibly stiffer? yes with the screw driver trick. will see if it makes a difference on the car.. will be kind of hard to see the difference since i was rocking subframe spacers before hand. skeet skeet skeet

SochBAT · 06-30-2005, 04:10 AM

Do tell us how they work out. Us poorass Nissan owners want to know, and cut some corners. =]

06-26-2005, 01:46 PM	#1
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Urethane filling the subframe bussssshiiings.. Anyone ever try it? Im swapping my subframe and was thinking if its worth doing or not. Stick a screwdriver in it and see that it flexes a lil bit. I know subframe spacers/collars are made for a reason and I have a set, but was just thinking about this as an added mod/cheap alternative to the more solid aluminum bushing replacements.. ANyone ever do it? __________________ Keep it Classy

06-26-2005, 02:25 PM	#2
sideview_180sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: somewhere north of mexico Posts: 1,538 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	just order the upper pieces. only way to fully take advantage is to either run 8-piece spacers, or the SPL solid spacers. those are the only valid ways to fix the slop in the bushings. unless ES comes out with bushings for S13 subframe. I know they released them for S14 but im not sure if the design is the same b/w them. __________________ feel the rythym. feel the ride. get on up. it's bobsled time. COOL RUNNINGS!!! formerly sideviewcivic Save a Horse. Drift This Cowboy. AirBag Club Member #0014

06-26-2005, 02:35 PM	#3
m0rex Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,070 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	He means like the rtv urethane on like fwd engine mounts. I dont know though it might work. I havent even take a look at my subframe. __________________

06-26-2005, 02:55 PM	#4
alkemyst Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Florida Age: 53 Posts: 868 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my same idea..I get a clunk when I turn to the left for the first time, and then to the right for the first time from the rear...need to get it in the air (next week)... the 'easy' solutions I have seen are solid urethane or aluminum spacers...these will increase NVH in the cabin easily...I really don't want that. I also don't want to have to drop the rear of the car to push/torch bushings. The windoweld solution will add some extra NVH, but I don't think anywhere near the spacer solution. You will have to let the car sit a few days or more if really filling it. __________________ Now my Kensai, I curse you to be a Ronin and with the my remaining spirit I, beseech Chimata-No-Kami, to have you wander through time and distance lands, seeking a new master.

06-26-2005, 06:52 PM	#5
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	please keep the off topic comments out of this thread guys.. unless its a bump .. hehe thanks =D back on topic. It looks do-able. One side of the bushing. The other side (which shows some depth as what can be filled in ) Twisting with a screw driver to show the flex movement. Yet i know the flex test probably really isnt much useful since I cant really imagine the subframe twisting at an angle on the car. But Im pretty sure that it can be filled. As long as I dont have the stuff pertrude any further then the metal bushing then it shouldnt have any fitment issues... this mod im hoping would add to complement the usual sub frame spacers. __________________ Keep it Classy

06-26-2005, 07:50 PM	#6
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Do it, Do it! __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

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projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 50 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Yes you can do it easily. Pour it in and let it harden, then flip it over and do the other side. And for the other kid who posted about ES bushings, S13/S14/S15 are the same. So are Z32. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

06-27-2005, 03:13 AM	#9
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06-29-2005, 10:49 PM	#10
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	gangsta chet! post pics later, hopefully ill swap new subframe installed tomarrow... i wanna paint the subframe tho so it can be bling bling. noticibly stiffer? yes with the screw driver trick. will see if it makes a difference on the car.. will be kind of hard to see the difference since i was rocking subframe spacers before hand. skeet skeet skeet __________________ Keep it Classy

06-30-2005, 04:10 AM	#11
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 38 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Do tell us how they work out. Us poorass Nissan owners want to know, and cut some corners. =]