3D Scanning Design Website

[a-s-silvia]

For the past year I have been working on designing some parts for my 240Z and my S13 using a Faro Platinum Arm I got. After I tried to get a GoFund me campaign for a laser scanner so I could start a free website where CAD scans would be readily available was shot down by everyone that commented on it.



So now I have a Faro Laser scanner and will start off scanning in things I need for now it will be VK56DE, RB26DETT, SR20DET, LS1, L Series, CD009, S13, and 240Z. I will be working towards getting a larger scanner but am in the process of starting the website which will have a $350 yearly membership, or you will be able to download files at a higher fee without a membership.

The files will be IGES files that can be opened in any CAD software. The main purpose behind this is for easy design and once I get the larger scanner and can scan in whole chassis which was my original plan, designing one off or production parts will be simple and require no test fitting.

This will also include aero I plan on scanning the full S13 aero and once I have enough cash to build a large enough injection mold I will be reproducing legit ABS injection molded S13 aero. It is a lot of work for just one person so don't expect it to happen overnight a block like the VK after I scan it has 300,000,000 points that I have to edit and mesh. I will post up the website link here closer to the end of the year once I feel I have enough scans to justify charging a membership fee.

The above images are not scans it was a point cloud from the Faro Platinum of a RB26 and RB30 and is a custom RB36 that I am designing for my 240Z. I do not think there will be that huge of interest on here but once I get finished with my projects I am going to start with the Porsche 911 and Subaru STI

Let me know what you think, for current day to day progress check out my Instagram and ad me RoadBashTV

[a-s-silvia]

Since there have been no comments I am guessing that everyone was thinking that I was just blowing smoke up your guys skirts. Well after a few hours last night and soon to be a few more hours editing the meshes, here are some initial scans accurate to 25 microns.

Silvia rear valence


RB26 timing cover


240Z interior quarter window trim

[5280VertDET]

Whoa. Awesome!

[SoundEfx]

So is it that you have to input the measurements, or do you have to scan the actual item?

[a-s-silvia]

That is actual scans of parts, if you look close at the timing cover you can see the chips in the paint and some scale that was where that CAS sensor was. Once i edit the mesh it will be a smooth usable part, body panels are much easier to do since they are a fixed thickness and there are usually not features that are not on both sides.

Originally Posted by SoundEfx

So is it that you have to input the measurements, or do you have to scan the actual item?

[Gingersmurf]

We mess around with the 3D scanner at school too, they are amazingly accurate, and very easy to deal with and edit the model. I still prefer 3D design, like solid works where you can edit an individual feature like a fillet for example. I think once the design software catches up with the 3D scanner capabilities, it will become really cool.

Currently we are scanning, and replicating parts using a 3D printer.

[s13silvia123]

You are better off buying just a decent affordable 3D Scanner until you can spend $20k on a really good one.

[collegekid]

$350 yearly membership, ouch my heart

But it sounds cool as hell. So you are going to scan, design, and produce everything?

How does that membership work? I pay $350 and I can download everything you have and make my own parts or do I have to edit and save all my work on your website?

[a-s-silvia]

You will download models, lets say you want to put a 2JZ in a car, so you would download the chassis, subframe, engine and trans. You could then locate it where you wand and use the model surfaces to design engine mounts and trans mounts. Then you want to know the driveshaft length you would download the diff and rear subframe. This is the goal but getting there will take a lot of work and time.

Originally Posted by collegekid

$350 yearly membership, ouch my heart

But it sounds cool as hell. So you are going to scan, design, and produce everything?

How does that membership work? I pay $350 and I can download everything you have and make my own parts or do I have to edit and save all my work on your website?

[KAT-PWR]

Please send me .STL files so I can chop them up and print them. TY bb

[Hopkins973]

This is awesome. I know the intentions of what you are doing but I am also wondering if you are intersted in doing small pieces. Are you thinking of the possibilities to create 3DM files for 3D printing.

Just a thought because i am looking for some interior pieces for my s13 that i am unable to find and if someone has it and can be scanned and later on printed on that would be amazing.

[w0nderbr3ad]

Would have been nice to do this while making my DIY induction box, instead of having to measure, cut, file everything by hand. =\

[a-s-silvia]

Yeah later on I plan on scanning a whole chassis but for now I will stick with parts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcxBt9w4bxY

Originally Posted by w0nderbr3ad

Would have been nice to do this while making my DIY induction box, instead of having to measure, cut, file everything by hand. =\

[Croustibat]

I think this could be very useful, but at the same time i can see a big "cease and desist" coming from nissan.

What you are doing is selling plans of parts owned by nissan. HOW you got those plans, wether by scanning the part or stealing the blueprints, is an aggravating matter if you stole them. Scanning could fall under a "counterfeit" claim, as this is what people get sued for when they copy films or software.

I'd urge you to talk to a lawyer before spending much money. I doubt nissan will be a pain if you keep it at a local, part time business, but you need to know wether they can shut you down at any moment or not.

[a-s-silvia]

I doubt they can shut it down since it is a scan and even though it is precise within 25 microns, they are not an exact copy which is how patents are broken. Plus there are no blueprints with no substantial information like material specifications or tolerances, I would see it as a waste of time and bad for their PR to do so.

Originally Posted by Croustibat

I think this could be very useful, but at the same time i can see a big "cease and desist" coming from nissan.

What you are doing is selling plans of parts owned by nissan. HOW you got those plans, wether by scanning the part or stealing the blueprints, is an aggravating matter if you stole them. Scanning could fall under a "counterfeit" claim, as this is what people get sued for when they copy films or software.

I'd urge you to talk to a lawyer before spending much money. I doubt nissan will be a pain if you keep it at a local, part time business, but you need to know wether they can shut you down at any moment or not.

[KAT-PWR]

Send .stl files please

[a-s-silvia]

Why am I sending STL files?

Originally Posted by KAT-PWR

Send .stl files please

[KAT-PWR]

For science

[dorkidori_s13]

Are your files compatible with Lightwave?

[Croustibat]

Originally Posted by a-s-silvia

I doubt .

Yes, see, lawyers don't give a crap about doubts, and nissan, like every big company, NEED to protect their brand or risk lose it.

So go see a damn lawyer and then get ready to ask nissan for a cheap licence agreement. Or keep going at it, praying you don't get a ceast & desist with associated penalties, your choice.

Seriously though, are you ready to build the core of your business on doubts ? If so, you clearly are no businessman.

[a-s-silvia]

Thanks for the heads up but no patent protects against making a scan, possibly if I was going to go into business reproducing something within the 20 year window possibly. But as we all know Nissan stops producing the parts after that time frame so even if I started mass producing Aero bumpers and made millions off of it Nissan doesn't produce it, plus all of the knock offs of the parts floating around you do not see Nissan going after these companies that make millions off of the product example is Brocks or Keystone. A smart business man does first and asks for permission later.

Originally Posted by Croustibat

Yes, see, lawyers don't give a crap about doubts, and nissan, like every big company, NEED to protect their brand or risk lose it.

So go see a damn lawyer and then get ready to ask nissan for a cheap licence agreement. Or keep going at it, praying you don't get a ceast & desist with associated penalties, your choice.

Seriously though, are you ready to build the core of your business on doubts ? If so, you clearly are no businessman.

[a-s-silvia]

What files does lightwave take STL?

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

Are your files compatible with Lightwave?

[KAT-PWR]

I wanted the stl's to see if they were manageable to print.

[a-s-silvia]

You would be able to print but all of these parts are so large you would need a large printer to print any of it.

Originally Posted by KAT-PWR

I wanted the stl's to see if they were manageable to print.

[KAT-PWR]

Originally Posted by a-s-silvia

You would be able to print but all of these parts are so large you would need a large printer to print any of it.

That is a common misconception, there are all kinds of ways around build volume restrictions.

How do you eat an elephant?

[a-s-silvia]

I usually build a larger printer my current build volume is 1x3ft but I am trying to make a resin printer large enough to print a block.

Originally Posted by KAT-PWR

That is a common misconception, there are all kinds of ways around build volume restrictions.

How do you eat an elephant?

[dwnshft2drft]

Originally Posted by Croustibat

Yes, see, lawyers don't give a crap about doubts, and nissan, like every big company, NEED to protect their brand or risk lose it.

So go see a damn lawyer and then get ready to ask nissan for a cheap licence agreement. Or keep going at it, praying you don't get a ceast & desist with associated penalties, your choice.

Seriously though, are you ready to build the core of your business on doubts ? If so, you clearly are no businessman.

Hes not printing or using NISSAN logo or name brand on it. Its only a replacement repair parts.

[spooled240]

Nissan is more concerned with slapping nismo badges on weird looking crossovers at the moment...not copies of 25 year old timing belt covers.

[a-s-silvia]

Lol this is so true

Originally Posted by spooled240

Nissan is more concerned with slapping nismo badges on weird looking crossovers at the moment...not copies of 25 year old timing belt covers.