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Kingtal0n · 11-30-2014, 10:28 PM

Two owners, first owner drives it from 0 to 126,993 and then second owner drives it from there to 180,000. The second owner had it painted right after he got it to this color. He was a mechanic and I know he owned a boosted 240 before this one as well. I looked it over like I always do before buying any 240 and planned my swap accordingly. The same day I also saw the white one in my sig, and I saw nearly exactly what I would have built with this one and decided to go see it. It was in great shape, and just needed TLC so now I am driving that while I work on it. This green car would make a great daily for someone, I can say that because I know both of the previous owners drove it every day and the oil comes out looking very clean, and it shifts strongly and the transmission fluids smells good, I drove it about 200 miles and the only real annoying complaint I had was the rear shock, the car is bouncy so that needs to get fixed before any more daily driving is done.

this car has a clean carfax, no accidents, runs great, cold A/C, automatic, 180k

PROS
Frame
Auto
No Leaking
Headlights have not been adjusted or moved from OEM. they line up perfectly, even the original foam is in place.
Tires are new
The paint is about 4 years old
clean carfax, no accidents, great daily, cold A/C, automatic, 180k
pictures of every part of the car are available and detailed

CONS
Windshield has wiper streaks in it (I am leaving the OEM windshield in the car as proof it exists, it is more valuable this way).
One of the rear shocks is blown
S15 struts and shocks with aftermarket JDM lowering springs
dash typical sun cracked florida 240 dash

$6000
contact: three two one - (662) - 52 -seven- (zero)
or PM

I took the seats out and detailed the hell out of it when I got it.

Auto is a pro to me because I like to get the car with good subframe bushings, it guarantees the history of the vehicle does not involve a drift and bent suspension parts and torn rubbers. Part of the problem of finding a good chassis is also having a good starting base to swap. the last thing I need is to find bent brackets and have to replace parts of the chassis. You never get a chance to see these things when buying the car, you find them after. Also, since the destination is a swap, All I have to do is add a clutch pedal which I have done countless times, Nissan actually marks the spot for you so there is no guessing. The motor going in already has a clutch in it, not that I won't be taking the trans off anyways to clean it up and install a new clutch. might as well, if you are going to drive the car for the next 55,000+ miles maintenance free this is just an obvious step.

I have done at least twenty sr20 swaps and helped another one hundred or more start and finish. It is possible to do the swap in a single day by yourself without a lift. The second day is going to involve the car of course, but it will be driving around by the first. Pulling the engine takes about 90 minutes. Installing the next one takes about 120 minutes if you are alone, that includes the driveshaft, wiring harness, ps line, downpipe, and the radiator/hoses if the mounts don't hold you up for a few minutes. The intercooler plumbing can take from 10 minutes to over an hour depending on if you actually have the right shapes and coupler coverage. You arn't connecting the A/C lines the same day (day 2 perhaps), the wiring you did yourself the day before, along with the clutch, plugs, belts. You pop some oil in the trans and engine and distilled water into the radiator and start. That really is only about 4 solid hours of work and the car is running.

It is the countless other small details that take days, settling the engine harness and making it look tucked and bolting the ECU up, cleaning up the engine bay involves some custom brackets for best appearance. You can add a lot of attention to detail just by forming metal to hold hoses and lines and electronics like the igniter chip. Sometimes you can improve the throttle bracket, the A/C routing (going to tig the line anyways), the heat shielding on the exhaust side can be done creatively, I really would go crazy with the heat control wherever possible, it really is beneficial to keep the heat in the exhaust and out of the engine bay.

I was thinking of painting and swapping it. But I have a 240 like that already.

GIMJ · 11-30-2014, 11:21 PM

wow that is clean.. Good luck. Though you probably won't need it.

Kingtal0n · 12-07-2014, 10:44 AM

Still have this all original car ready for service

Why is this the car to swap

A swap is an investment. You just spent $3000+ on your car, a perfectly fine running driving car, for no reason. Well, for a stupid reason. you wanted to wake up the next day with an extra hundred horsepower. How will you justify your investment? Will you ever get your money back?

At this point the frame plays a role. If the car has a good frame, then it will maintain it's value. In fact, any money you spend on the car has the potential to hold it's value as long as the frame is good. If the frame has damage, then every penny you invest takes a percentage loss. The last thing you expect to see when looking at a properly built 240 for sale anywhere is looking under it and seeing a huge irreparable dent in the frame rail. The underside is a cosmetic aspect, just like the paint on the hood, except that unlike body work, it cannot be easily repaired. What you see is usually the accumulation of 20~ years of service life. A percentage of all 240sx ever produced will have their undersides mangled regardless of whether the car is in an accident or not.

97nismo · 12-07-2014, 11:06 AM

One ugly color what were they thinking

onehundredoctane · 12-08-2014, 12:32 PM

"ALL ORIGINAL"

sans paint.

Y0SH · 12-10-2014, 08:19 PM

Any interest in trades?

EDacIouSX · 12-10-2014, 09:50 PM

didn't know lime green was an original color

Syncade · 12-11-2014, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

didn't know lime green was an original color

It's not original bro...it's ALL original......

97nismo · 12-11-2014, 12:39 PM

Looks more like shit green...option for florida people

Kingtal0n · 12-12-2014, 05:35 PM

damn can you feel the love? god bless zilvia and everyone still breathing, happy holidays.

You know I would give anyone the shirt off my back right? that I would stop for you on a cold ass night in the middle of nowhere with my flashlight and tools, and fix your engine without even having ever met you before.

corbin · 12-13-2014, 02:10 PM

Car looks great. Comments aside, it is rare to find a 240SX relatively untouched like this where all the essentials--straight frame, no rust, original drivetrain--are there. Comments are probably from your somewhat "sale-sy" attitude/posting style. You are a bit too enthusiastic about the good points of the car and a bit dismissive of the cons, not to mention the perhaps somewhat high price. I think these things together turn people--or at least the broke-ass 17 year old dorifto kids who frequent Zilvia--off.

Kingtal0n · 12-20-2014, 04:05 PM

I just know how hard it is to find a frame like this. I am afraid if I sell it too quickly I will suddenly need one and look around... and find... all the trash you see out there now. Anyone with a good car knows it and keeps it or asks top dollar.

As to the paint; You realize that if this car's paint was original it would be all faded and clearcoat peeling. So if I had a choice when buying an all original 240 of original clear coat peeling vs painted a few years ago I wouldn't care what the colour was because even if I didnt like the colour, I would have to re-paint the car anyways in both cases. The owner liked the car enough (at 120,000 miles when it was painted) to get it painted to begin with, which says something about how the owner feels about the car.

I dont like the color much either, but it sure will be easier to repaint this car than one with all the dings/peeling fading original color.

pr

96maxima_se85 · 12-20-2014, 11:47 PM

that cars just begging for an LS swap

Nissan2nr22 · 12-23-2014, 01:07 PM

Nowhere close to original, that's not a OEM color, respray is understandable, oem color, ok say its original, but not some ugly ass ricer color then say its original lmao

car looks mint tho

Kingtal0n · 12-23-2014, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nissan2nr22

Nowhere close to original, that's not a OEM color, respray is understandable, oem color, ok say its original, but not some ugly ass ricer color then say its original lmao

car looks mint tho

Where have you been? Still driving a 240?

I already covered why the paint is desirable compared to OEM, furthermore, it has many non original parts if you think about it. The shocks and springs, the radio, tie rods, intake filter, plugs, plug wires, tires, Tension rods, and who knows what else. No 240 is truly original because if it was, even with 2 original miles, its going to need replacement parts due to age.

thanks for the bump and attention, I hope you still rock a 240 these cars are great, and going up in value still.

voiddweller · 12-25-2014, 12:40 PM

This is a very clean looking S14. I hope you get what you want for it. GLWS.

Y0SH · 12-27-2014, 07:12 PM

What's the original paint color?

Kingtal0n · 12-28-2014, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y0SH

What's the original paint color?

I think it was green. I'll check the vin. If I keep the car, however, I would never go back to OEM green. Over the years I've tried lots of different colours, and my favorite is still sunset metallic, back about 8 240's ago I had that color and just..

SUNSET METALLIC (About 5x 240s ago I had this colour on a 240)

God, I sure wish I had a stock 240 with which to build into anything I wanted.

Kingtal0n · 01-11-2015, 03:52 PM

$6000

daily me

xilovelsdx · 01-11-2015, 04:36 PM

Im just upset your build instructions ended so quickly.

I am lost now. I have no idea where to go after heat shielding.

Kingtal0n · 01-17-2015, 11:46 AM

I See zenkis everywhere

Kingtal0n · 02-05-2015, 11:06 AM

BUy-it-Now

$6000

last one

Kingcof22 · 02-06-2015, 12:56 AM

bump... cant wait to see the next kouki you get and sell

Kingtal0n · 02-06-2015, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingcof22

bump... cant wait to see the next kouki you get and sell

http://forums.nicoclub.com/1997-240s...r-t595793.html
Also has Electric cut-out now, Clifford alarm w/ keyless, profec B spec-II, and more

Kingcof22 · 02-06-2015, 03:50 PM

that white kouki is awesome!!! you are so lucky!

:drama

93smallblock · 02-06-2015, 08:41 PM

Interested in trades or for sale only?

Kingtal0n · 02-08-2015, 09:34 PM

No trades sorry
Its in CL, more Picture in CL here:

http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cto/4818882986.html

Kingtal0n · 02-14-2015, 02:28 PM

out of darkness we arise
in the presence of light we have eyes

tobroketobuildarealcar · 02-14-2015, 03:17 PM

Not really all original with that paint job

supradeluxe · 02-14-2015, 08:17 PM

in the fashion industry this color is literally called "baby poop" green.

11-30-2014, 10:28 PM	#1
Kingtal0n Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida Age: 41 Posts: 4,829 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	1997 Nissan 240sx $6000 All Original Two owners, first owner drives it from 0 to 126,993 and then second owner drives it from there to 180,000. The second owner had it painted right after he got it to this color. He was a mechanic and I know he owned a boosted 240 before this one as well. I looked it over like I always do before buying any 240 and planned my swap accordingly. The same day I also saw the white one in my sig, and I saw nearly exactly what I would have built with this one and decided to go see it. It was in great shape, and just needed TLC so now I am driving that while I work on it. This green car would make a great daily for someone, I can say that because I know both of the previous owners drove it every day and the oil comes out looking very clean, and it shifts strongly and the transmission fluids smells good, I drove it about 200 miles and the only real annoying complaint I had was the rear shock, the car is bouncy so that needs to get fixed before any more daily driving is done. this car has a clean carfax, no accidents, runs great, cold A/C, automatic, 180k PROS Frame Auto No Leaking Headlights have not been adjusted or moved from OEM. they line up perfectly, even the original foam is in place. Tires are new The paint is about 4 years old clean carfax, no accidents, great daily, cold A/C, automatic, 180k pictures of every part of the car are available and detailed CONS Windshield has wiper streaks in it (I am leaving the OEM windshield in the car as proof it exists, it is more valuable this way). One of the rear shocks is blown S15 struts and shocks with aftermarket JDM lowering springs dash typical sun cracked florida 240 dash $6000 contact: three two one - (662) - 52 -seven- (zero) or PM I took the seats out and detailed the hell out of it when I got it. Auto is a pro to me because I like to get the car with good subframe bushings, it guarantees the history of the vehicle does not involve a drift and bent suspension parts and torn rubbers. Part of the problem of finding a good chassis is also having a good starting base to swap. the last thing I need is to find bent brackets and have to replace parts of the chassis. You never get a chance to see these things when buying the car, you find them after. Also, since the destination is a swap, All I have to do is add a clutch pedal which I have done countless times, Nissan actually marks the spot for you so there is no guessing. The motor going in already has a clutch in it, not that I won't be taking the trans off anyways to clean it up and install a new clutch. might as well, if you are going to drive the car for the next 55,000+ miles maintenance free this is just an obvious step. I have done at least twenty sr20 swaps and helped another one hundred or more start and finish. It is possible to do the swap in a single day by yourself without a lift. The second day is going to involve the car of course, but it will be driving around by the first. Pulling the engine takes about 90 minutes. Installing the next one takes about 120 minutes if you are alone, that includes the driveshaft, wiring harness, ps line, downpipe, and the radiator/hoses if the mounts don't hold you up for a few minutes. The intercooler plumbing can take from 10 minutes to over an hour depending on if you actually have the right shapes and coupler coverage. You arn't connecting the A/C lines the same day (day 2 perhaps), the wiring you did yourself the day before, along with the clutch, plugs, belts. You pop some oil in the trans and engine and distilled water into the radiator and start. That really is only about 4 solid hours of work and the car is running. It is the countless other small details that take days, settling the engine harness and making it look tucked and bolting the ECU up, cleaning up the engine bay involves some custom brackets for best appearance. You can add a lot of attention to detail just by forming metal to hold hoses and lines and electronics like the igniter chip. Sometimes you can improve the throttle bracket, the A/C routing (going to tig the line anyways), the heat shielding on the exhaust side can be done creatively, I really would go crazy with the heat control wherever possible, it really is beneficial to keep the heat in the exhaust and out of the engine bay. I was thinking of painting and swapping it. But I have a 240 like that already. __________________ 5.3/4l80e/turbo 240sx playthrough: tinyurl.com/4l80er Last edited by Kingtal0n; 02-14-2015 at 02:58 PM..

12-07-2014, 10:44 AM	#3
Kingtal0n Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida Age: 41 Posts: 4,829 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	Still have this all original car ready for service Why is this the car to swap A swap is an investment. You just spent $3000+ on your car, a perfectly fine running driving car, for no reason. Well, for a stupid reason. you wanted to wake up the next day with an extra hundred horsepower. How will you justify your investment? Will you ever get your money back? At this point the frame plays a role. If the car has a good frame, then it will maintain it's value. In fact, any money you spend on the car has the potential to hold it's value as long as the frame is good. If the frame has damage, then every penny you invest takes a percentage loss. The last thing you expect to see when looking at a properly built 240 for sale anywhere is looking under it and seeing a huge irreparable dent in the frame rail. The underside is a cosmetic aspect, just like the paint on the hood, except that unlike body work, it cannot be easily repaired. What you see is usually the accumulation of 20~ years of service life. A percentage of all 240sx ever produced will have their undersides mangled regardless of whether the car is in an accident or not. Last edited by Kingtal0n; 02-14-2015 at 08:29 PM..

12-07-2014, 11:06 AM	#4
97nismo Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Asheville Posts: 2,133 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	One ugly color what were they thinking __________________ Feedback: http://zilvia.net/f/itrader.php?u=78978

12-11-2014, 12:39 PM	#9
97nismo Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Asheville Posts: 2,133 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	Looks more like shit green...option for florida people __________________ Feedback: http://zilvia.net/f/itrader.php?u=78978

12-20-2014, 04:05 PM	#12
Kingtal0n Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida Age: 41 Posts: 4,829 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	I just know how hard it is to find a frame like this. I am afraid if I sell it too quickly I will suddenly need one and look around... and find... all the trash you see out there now. Anyone with a good car knows it and keeps it or asks top dollar. As to the paint; You realize that if this car's paint was original it would be all faded and clearcoat peeling. So if I had a choice when buying an all original 240 of original clear coat peeling vs painted a few years ago I wouldn't care what the colour was because even if I didnt like the colour, I would have to re-paint the car anyways in both cases. The owner liked the car enough (at 120,000 miles when it was painted) to get it painted to begin with, which says something about how the owner feels about the car. I dont like the color much either, but it sure will be easier to repaint this car than one with all the dings/peeling fading original color. pr Last edited by Kingtal0n; 02-14-2015 at 01:24 PM..

11-30-2014, 11:21 PM	#2
GIMJ Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: So Cal Age: 38 Posts: 121 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	wow that is clean.. Good luck. Though you probably won't need it.

12-08-2014, 12:32 PM	#5
onehundredoctane Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Greensborough, NC Posts: 2,783 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	"ALL ORIGINAL" sans paint.

12-10-2014, 08:19 PM	#6
Y0SH Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 318 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Any interest in trades?

12-10-2014, 09:50 PM	#7
EDacIouSX Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 38 Posts: 4,565 Trader Rating: (53) Rides Gallery: EDacIouSX Feedback Score: 53 reviews	didn't know lime green was an original color

12-12-2014, 05:35 PM	#10
Kingtal0n Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida Age: 41 Posts: 4,829 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	damn can you feel the love? god bless zilvia and everyone still breathing, happy holidays. You know I would give anyone the shirt off my back right? that I would stop for you on a cold ass night in the middle of nowhere with my flashlight and tools, and fix your engine without even having ever met you before.

12-13-2014, 02:10 PM	#11
corbin Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Spring, TX Age: 33 Posts: 207 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Car looks great. Comments aside, it is rare to find a 240SX relatively untouched like this where all the essentials--straight frame, no rust, original drivetrain--are there. Comments are probably from your somewhat "sale-sy" attitude/posting style. You are a bit too enthusiastic about the good points of the car and a bit dismissive of the cons, not to mention the perhaps somewhat high price. I think these things together turn people--or at least the broke-ass 17 year old dorifto kids who frequent Zilvia--off.

12-20-2014, 11:47 PM	#13
96maxima_se85 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: South Dakota Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that cars just begging for an LS swap

12-23-2014, 01:07 PM	#14
Nissan2nr22 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,629 Trader Rating: (30) Rides Gallery: Nissan2nr22 Feedback Score: 30 reviews	Nowhere close to original, that's not a OEM color, respray is understandable, oem color, ok say its original, but not some ugly ass ricer color then say its original lmao car looks mint tho

12-25-2014, 12:40 PM	#16
voiddweller Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gulf Coast Age: 55 Posts: 251 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: voiddweller Feedback Score: 4 reviews	This is a very clean looking S14. I hope you get what you want for it. GLWS. __________________ 97 S14 SE w/S13 Blacktop 04 CL9

12-27-2014, 07:12 PM	#17
Y0SH Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 318 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What's the original paint color?

01-11-2015, 03:52 PM	#19
Kingtal0n Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida Age: 41 Posts: 4,829 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	$6000 daily me __________________ 5.3/4l80e/turbo 240sx playthrough: tinyurl.com/4l80er Last edited by Kingtal0n; 02-14-2015 at 01:23 PM..

01-11-2015, 04:36 PM	#20
xilovelsdx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Titusville, FL Age: 36 Posts: 376 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: xilovelsdx Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Im just upset your build instructions ended so quickly. I am lost now. I have no idea where to go after heat shielding. __________________

01-17-2015, 11:46 AM	#21
Kingtal0n Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida Age: 41 Posts: 4,829 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	I See zenkis everywhere

02-05-2015, 11:06 AM	#22
Kingtal0n Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida Age: 41 Posts: 4,829 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	BUy-it-Now $6000 last one __________________ 5.3/4l80e/turbo 240sx playthrough: tinyurl.com/4l80er Last edited by Kingtal0n; 02-14-2015 at 01:22 PM..

02-06-2015, 12:56 AM	#23
Kingcof22 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: oregon Posts: 229 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	bump... cant wait to see the next kouki you get and sell

02-06-2015, 03:50 PM	#25
Kingcof22 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: oregon Posts: 229 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	that white kouki is awesome!!! you are so lucky!:drama

02-06-2015, 08:41 PM	#26
93smallblock Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Taylorville, IL Posts: 73 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Interested in trades or for sale only?

02-08-2015, 09:34 PM	#27
Kingtal0n Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida Age: 41 Posts: 4,829 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	No trades sorry Its in CL, more Picture in CL here: http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/cto/4818882986.html Last edited by Kingtal0n; 02-09-2015 at 01:21 PM..

02-14-2015, 02:28 PM	#28
Kingtal0n Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South Florida Age: 41 Posts: 4,829 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	out of darkness we arise in the presence of light we have eyes

02-14-2015, 03:17 PM	#29
tobroketobuildarealcar Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 508 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Not really all original with that paint job

02-14-2015, 08:17 PM	#30
supradeluxe Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: CA Age: 38 Posts: 137 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	in the fashion industry this color is literally called "baby poop" green.