Wheels & Tires forum rule - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

**mrmephistopheles** · 12-18-2006, 09:16 AM

This one:
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=101654
Regarding posting all pertinent wheel info in thread title.

Tell me what you think.
Pick your answer and if you feel the need, expound in a reply.

*exitspeed* · 12-18-2006, 10:21 AM

I almost voted for Pineapple, but then I thought...

I think it's completely appropriate and valuable. For instance if your 5 lug and looking for wheels, you don't even have to look at the 4 lug wheels threads cause they're usless to you.

I know I've mentioned this to you before, but I think Pics should be mandatory too. Digi cams are so incredibly cheap now-a-days there's no excuse.

*MELLO*SOS* · 12-18-2006, 10:54 AM

The more info required in post title/post the better. Otherwise it seems you get these posts that leave out crucial details... It's almost like if you don't tell half these guys to include the PCD, offset & diameter, they'll "forget".

Exitspeed, I agree with you on mandatory pics.

'90RPS13 · 12-18-2006, 11:33 AM

+1 for everything mentioned so far. *a

articdragon192 · 12-18-2006, 11:43 AM

Me like.

drew935 · 12-18-2006, 12:41 PM

I say the more info the better. It helps save with asking so many redundant questions. They should also post pics or list that they can email pics if requested.

*exitspeed* · 12-18-2006, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drew935

I say the more info the better. It helps save with asking so many redundant questions. They should also post pics or list that they can email pics if requested.

I don't like the "em for pics" thing. It's an extra step someone has to take to see the wheels. If you really wanna sell'em take 2 sec initially and post'em up and you save yourself and everyone else a lot of time.

drew935 · 12-18-2006, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

I don't like the "em for pics" thing. It's an extra step someone has to take to see the wheels. If you really wanna sell'em take 2 sec initially and post'em up and you save yourself and everyone else a lot of time.

+1 you're right. They should take the extra time to post pics since they want them sold...

LB.Motoring · 12-18-2006, 03:24 PM

at first pinnapple. haha JK

its for the win.

the only thing I think I can add, would be how pissed I usualy am when they never post pictures of the rims / condition etc.

azndummie · 12-18-2006, 07:04 PM

It is definately necessary because of the different types of wheels out there. Pics should be mandatory because even if u can't afford a camera you can borrow one.

***FaLKoN240*** · 12-18-2006, 07:12 PM

The rule should only be enforced if they DON'T put it in the TITLE, and then don't post it in the FOR SALE.

On this forum stuff like width and offset are important, PCD is kinda redundant (Look at the wheel face and count the holes).

Bascially it should be

In title

in post

In title

not in post

Not in title

in post

Not in title

not in post.

ChicagoS14 · 12-18-2006, 07:39 PM

pineapple???

sorry.... just had to vote

but its a good rule because it saves time asking about all the info etc. and why would you list a product like that without giving full specs anyhow.... sloppy posting means you might be a bad seller...

S13 Charlie · 12-18-2006, 10:59 PM

The wheels for sale section ends up being cluttered with a kajillion locked threads. If there is relevant info left out of the title, I think the post should be allowed as long as it's in the body of the thread. When you hover over a thread link, it gives you the first few lines of the post, and usually any left out info is there.

McRussellPants · 12-19-2006, 12:25 AM

Shits stupid, Mr. daddypants rolling into my thread and locking it because I didn't list a PCD.

If you can't look at the picture, and see 5 holes, then see that they came off a 240SX, and still can't tell that they're 5x114.3 I don't need your dumbass spamming in my PM box with "I'd buy them if my cat hadn't died".

**mrmephistopheles** · 12-19-2006, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McRussellPants

....locking it because I didn't list a PCD.

If you can't look at the picture, and see 5 holes

The idea is to prevent users from having to open a thread to SEE a pic to find out if it's 5 holes or not. On top of that, not all FS posts have pics, so your argument is moot.
People need to stop taking locked threads personally.

**Phlip** · 12-19-2006, 02:14 AM

I voted "pineapple," because I know where it came from

*exitspeed* · 12-19-2006, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McRussellPants

Shits stupid, Mr. daddypants rolling into my thread and locking it because I didn't list a PCD.

If you can't look at the picture, and see 5 holes, then see that they came off a 240SX, and still can't tell that they're 5x114.3 I don't need your dumbass spamming in my PM box with "I'd buy them if my cat hadn't died".

Yea, why should I even have to open your thread if I'm not looking for 5 lug wheels? It saves time. Don't be a time waster.

***FaLKoN240*** · 12-20-2006, 11:01 AM

Does anyone agree with me or what? I think that's the most logical way to handle it. Also the locked threads should just be deleted, with a PM sent to the user linking them to my rule.

*exitspeed* · 12-20-2006, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240FaLKoN

Does anyone agree with me or what? I think that's the most logical way to handle it. Also the locked threads should just be deleted, with a PM sent to the user linking them to my rule.

The PM part would be a pain for the Mods, though I think deleting it is a better solutions then just locking it and filling the area up with locked threads. Especially after Phlip whirlwinds his way through there.

*MELLO*SOS* · 12-20-2006, 02:04 PM

locked threads are like skulls and skeletons on the ground leading up to a dungeon. They serve as a reminder and a warning...

Locked threads don't clutter the board IMO.

Wei240 · 12-20-2006, 03:15 PM

saves time and bandwith because sometimes going to zilv feels like i'm using 2400bps modem (blleeee, blaaaaaa, pssssssshhhh, nggggggg, beeeeeep) even tho i have broadband,

*exitspeed* · 12-20-2006, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wei240

saves time and bandwith because sometimes going to zilv feels like i'm using 2400bps modem (blleeee, blaaaaaa, pssssssshhhh, nggggggg, beeeeeep) even tho i have broadband,

It shouldn't anymore with the new server...

Wei240 · 12-20-2006, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

It shouldn't anymore with the new server...

you'd think so...
but out of all the sites i normally go to daily, zilvia is slowest of 'em all,
sometimes even times out...

dunno...

**mrmephistopheles** · 12-20-2006, 05:37 PM

Wei - it's likely an issue for you locally or at your ISP.
Zilvia is fast for me, and I'm in Japan.

**Phlip** · 12-20-2006, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

The PM part would be a pain for the Mods, though I think deleting it is a better solutions then just locking it and filling the area up with locked threads. Especially after Phlip whirlwinds his way through there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mello88

locked threads are like skulls and skeletons on the ground leading up to a dungeon. They serve as a reminder and a warning...

Locked threads don't clutter the board IMO.

Both above posts quoted for truth.
Locking the thread is one CLICK that comes with posting, watch this:

Simple enough?
Compare that to doing it this way:
First, I click here, which shows me this new drop down,, where I must now click "Delete Thread":

And now I must select HOW I want to delete it, I can "soft" delete it, showing users that there was a thread there, or I can "physically remove" it, which makes it seem like it never happened. See here:

But wait, NOW I have to initiate a PM to a user who might have a problem with their thread being locked, so I must scroll back to and click their name, as in:

Now I have to go fully to the motions of titling and typing a private message to the user explaining what happened to their thread...

My issue, here, is that in that PM, I will GLADLY include a link to the thread that reasoned my locking/deleting their thread, but in the time it took, I now have to take the same action with 5 more.
-OR-
I can simply copy the link, paste it into every offending thread accompanying the post with which I lock the thread, then move on to the next.
The graveyard it frequently creates is FAR more effective than deleting them and holding their hands, almost as if to reward them for ignoring what was in a sticky at the top of the very forum they posted in.

mr_240sx · 12-21-2006, 10:25 AM

dammm phlip..... not enough threads for you to lock today? so you had to tkae 30 minutes to post up all those pics? lol

your the man!

CrazyIvan · 12-21-2006, 11:08 AM

Lol, +1 rep to Philip for fully explaining why its easier to lock threads than deleting them.

edit: Im not a big fan of pineapple so I voted #1 option :P

**Phlip** · 12-21-2006, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_240sx

dammm phlip..... not enough threads for you to lock today? so you had to tkae 30 minutes to post up all those pics? lol

your the man!

Dude, I had explained it in plain English to people before, but some just won't seem to want to like it. I figured to go ahead and take the necessary time to make that post to explain with photographs, my very point.

*NemeGuero* · 12-21-2006, 05:55 PM

I think that the first option is best...

I see McRussellPant's point.. but not everyone is 5 lug, which isn't something I didn't think about at first.

snatch13 · 12-22-2006, 01:46 PM

I like the first option.

If anyone has a problem with it, Phlip can just get out the ban stick...

View Poll Results: What do you think of that rule?
It's great - Saves my time / Zilvia's bandwidth	106	55.50%
It's ok - I see it's value, but don't really care	27	14.14%
It's crap - Serves no purpose / Too strict	8	4.19%
My opinion doesn't match any of these. See my reply.	4	2.09%
Pineapple?	46	24.08%
Voters: 191. You may not vote on this poll

12-18-2006, 10:21 AM	#2
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 44 Posts: 20,900 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I almost voted for Pineapple, but then I thought... I think it's completely appropriate and valuable. For instance if your 5 lug and looking for wheels, you don't even have to look at the 4 lug wheels threads cause they're usless to you. I know I've mentioned this to you before, but I think Pics should be mandatory too. Digi cams are so incredibly cheap now-a-days there's no excuse. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

12-18-2006, 12:41 PM	#6
drew935 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Silver Creek - San Jose Posts: 996 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I say the more info the better. It helps save with asking so many redundant questions. They should also post pics or list that they can email pics if requested. __________________ I'm driving fast -drew

12-18-2006, 03:24 PM	#9
LB.Motoring Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SòCal♥ Age: 37 Posts: 5,840 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: LB.Motoring Feedback Score: 1 reviews	at first pinnapple. haha JK its for the win. the only thing I think I can add, would be how pissed I usualy am when they never post pictures of the rims / condition etc. __________________ Robby Leuer

12-18-2006, 07:04 PM	#10
azndummie Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: orange county Posts: 1,362 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	It is definately necessary because of the different types of wheels out there. Pics should be mandatory because even if u can't afford a camera you can borrow one. __________________

12-18-2006, 10:54 AM	#3
MELLOSOS* LAID OUT Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: LAS VEGAS Age: 42 Posts: 2,015 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: MELLO*SOS Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The more info required in post title/post the better. Otherwise it seems you get these posts that leave out crucial details... It's almost like if you don't tell half these guys to include the PCD, offset & diameter, they'll "forget". Exitspeed, I agree with you on mandatory pics.

12-18-2006, 11:33 AM	#4
'90RPS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NC Age: 37 Posts: 2,839 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	+1 for everything mentioned so far. *a

12-18-2006, 11:43 AM	#5
articdragon192 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West covina Age: 38 Posts: 6,792 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Me like.

12-18-2006, 07:12 PM	#11
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,885 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	The rule should only be enforced if they DON'T put it in the TITLE, and then don't post it in the FOR SALE. On this forum stuff like width and offset are important, PCD is kinda redundant (Look at the wheel face and count the holes). Bascially it should be In title in post In title not in post Not in title in post Not in title not in post. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

12-18-2006, 07:39 PM	#12
ChicagoS14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Chicago Age: 37 Posts: 695 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	pineapple??? sorry.... just had to vote but its a good rule because it saves time asking about all the info etc. and why would you list a product like that without giving full specs anyhow.... sloppy posting means you might be a bad seller...

12-18-2006, 10:59 PM	#13
S13 Charlie Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 716 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	The wheels for sale section ends up being cluttered with a kajillion locked threads. If there is relevant info left out of the title, I think the post should be allowed as long as it's in the body of the thread. When you hover over a thread link, it gives you the first few lines of the post, and usually any left out info is there.

12-19-2006, 12:25 AM	#14
McRussellPants Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 2,168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Shits stupid, Mr. daddypants rolling into my thread and locking it because I didn't list a PCD. If you can't look at the picture, and see 5 holes, then see that they came off a 240SX, and still can't tell that they're 5x114.3 I don't need your dumbass spamming in my PM box with "I'd buy them if my cat hadn't died".

12-19-2006, 02:14 AM	#16
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,976 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I voted "pineapple," because I know where it came from __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

12-20-2006, 11:01 AM	#18
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,885 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	Does anyone agree with me or what? I think that's the most logical way to handle it. Also the locked threads should just be deleted, with a PM sent to the user linking them to my rule. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

12-20-2006, 02:04 PM	#20
MELLOSOS* LAID OUT Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: LAS VEGAS Age: 42 Posts: 2,015 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: MELLO*SOS Feedback Score: 1 reviews	locked threads are like skulls and skeletons on the ground leading up to a dungeon. They serve as a reminder and a warning... Locked threads don't clutter the board IMO.

12-20-2006, 03:15 PM	#21
Wei240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: socal Posts: 1,778 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	saves time and bandwith because sometimes going to zilv feels like i'm using 2400bps modem (blleeee, blaaaaaa, pssssssshhhh, nggggggg, beeeeeep) even tho i have broadband,

12-21-2006, 10:25 AM	#26
mr_240sx Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ottawa Age: 37 Posts: 6,320 Trader Rating: (4) Rides Gallery: mr_240sx Feedback Score: 4 reviews	dammm phlip..... not enough threads for you to lock today? so you had to tkae 30 minutes to post up all those pics? lol your the man!

12-21-2006, 11:08 AM	#27
CrazyIvan Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kissimmee, FL Age: 42 Posts: 1,820 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Lol, +1 rep to Philip for fully explaining why its easier to lock threads than deleting them. edit: Im not a big fan of pineapple so I voted #1 option :P __________________ powder-coated.com - I do Custom Powder Coating

12-21-2006, 05:55 PM	#29
NemeGuero No more nissan. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: RAIN, Washington. Age: 39 Posts: 8,132 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: NemeGuero Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I think that the first option is best... I see McRussellPant's point.. but not everyone is 5 lug, which isn't something I didn't think about at first. __________________

12-22-2006, 01:46 PM	#30
snatch13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Age: 37 Posts: 749 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: snatch13 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I like the first option. If anyone has a problem with it, Phlip can just get out the ban stick...