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Old 12-07-2001, 01:52 PM   #1
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I am looking to invest in racing hart cp035's or c2 evos. I was wondering if anyone knew if they were strong? I plan to do some drifting in my car and i wanted to know if there would be any consequences in using these rims. There is a 3 piece c2 and a 1 piece. Which one is better?...err..stronger? and why? Thanks
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Old 12-07-2001, 02:22 PM   #2
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shuang they are really nice rims exremely light weight
I dont think they are the best type of rims for drifting.
you may want to go with a more solid rim. the reason they are soo light weight is they are'nt as dense as some rims. find out from a supplier to see what is the
best type of rim for drifting
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Old 12-07-2001, 04:02 PM   #3
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If your gonna actually get in to drifting just pick up some junk rims with tires at a junk yard. People that actually drift on a regular basis go through tires too fast to waste money on top rate shit everytime they go drifting.
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they go through all 4 tires? could i just have shitty backs and nice front wheels?
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rota's make great drifting Rims light weight 12lb's , strong , made to IS9001 specs. cheap too you can get a set of 4 15's new for$400-500. Not only that they make them for other wheel companys so you can buy that Racing Hart cpo35 from Rota. Its called a Sub Zero .
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Old 12-08-2001, 03:42 AM   #6
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yea you can use nice rims and put black doughnuts on the black.. kinda looks funny though.. but you can..
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Old 12-08-2001, 04:42 AM   #7
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mesh wheels on the rear n bald tires seem to be the way to go for the back, n whatever u want on the front. 15-16 x 8 is also a decent size.
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Old 12-08-2001, 11:44 AM   #8
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thats just the style in japan, it doesnt really matter what kind of rims you use. however generally you want to have good tires up from so you can retain control of the car while sideways, and bald tires in the back. however its not only the style, theres a reason for having your car look like this....the only part of your car touching the ground is always the first part to break when you go flying into a curb sideways. why drift in a pair of $800 rims with $500 worth of rubber on it? if you do, you're retarded
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Old 12-08-2001, 12:40 PM   #9
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so the back generally hits the curbs or what?
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Old 12-08-2001, 01:09 PM   #10
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i think nething could hit the curb, or a rail, or whatever. if ur drifting n lose control, ur rear could come loose n slam into the curb, u could end up doing a 180 then having the front hit. there's just 2 many different possibilites depending on road conditions, what u do to prevent it, n other factors.
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Old 12-08-2001, 01:43 PM   #11
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definatley not the best rims for drifting... but racing hart has a good rep around here (fredericksburg, va). lots of people love em.
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Old 12-08-2001, 03:07 PM   #12
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in japan, if a drifter DOES have a set of nice rims, theyll put a set of crap rims and tires in their trunk/hatch area when they go, so if he is gonna go race togue or anything, he wont rip his nice rims up, or shred his tires. you just gotta remember that this is the first thing that makes contact with a curb usually (unless you're an idiot and lowered your car too low, which isnt a good idea if you plan to go drifting, for other reasons as well). accidents do happen, even to the best. ever seen the pictures of keiichi tsuchiya completely totaling his R31? nobody is perfect, not even the king
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Old 12-08-2001, 04:40 PM   #13
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90% of the drifting cars i've seen r slammed though.
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Old 12-08-2001, 04:57 PM   #14
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yeah slammed but not too low, if you drop it too low you will scape the shit out of it, and you dont want the center of gravity to be way too low, it'll get harder to put into a drift. the whole point of suspension tuning for drifting is to keep the wheels formly planted on the ground, especially the rear wheels, becasue this is what is moving you, and you want to keep the front wheels firmly planted on the ground so you can actually control where the car is going to go next. rather than an insane drop, you want to think about better sway bars, bushings, tie rods, stiffening the chassis as much as you possibly can, keeping it very hard in the rear and very soft in the front. and of course the first item you need before drifting, the VLSD.
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Old 12-08-2001, 08:53 PM   #15
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agreed. slammed is still considerably low to me though n if u got a stiff suspension it shouldn't be that bad if ur trying to drift in a smooth open area or track.
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Old 12-08-2001, 11:54 PM   #16
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Well, most hardcore touge and drifting enthusiasts have coilover suspension systems. So they probably adjust their suspension settings, put on a proper set of wheels and tires, then run 'em. After that, they just readjust it back for street driving and put back their regular wheels. Usually people would have vans and stuff in the galleries (sidelines) to hold their stuff.

Anyway, if you want a strong and lightweight wheel. Get forged wheels. They require less metal to make, thus making them lighter, plus the process of forging the wheels makes them VERY strong. However, they're very high priced because they're extremely high quality, strong, and lightweight. Cast wheels however are cheaper and a bit heavier. Most companies make cast wheels. Concerning your choices of wheels being the CP-035 and the C2 Evos. The C2 Evos only come casted unless you get the 3-piece C2's. While the CP-035's come in either cast or forged versions. How can I tell the difference between the two? I have no clue. >_<

Here's one thing I know for sure, NEVER, EVER get ADR wheels. Those wheels have horrible quality and structure. Sure they look like copies of popular wheel styles, but I've seen numerous sets get bent, spokes getting cracked, and wheels falling apart under heavy use or just accidently knocking a curb. Then again, not all wheels are indestructable.
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