Revised F/S forum "bump" rule.... - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

racepar1 · 11-30-2010, 01:40 PM

I personally think that our 2 bump limit is stupid. I do understand that we have to keep people from bumping all the time, but it's a waste of space and time to have to write 20 threads to sell one item because you're only allowed to bump it twice before it's closed. I propose that the bump rule should be changed to one bump per day, with unlimited bumps on a thread. I see no reason why having to write a new thread would provide any benefit to anyone.

JRwerks · 12-01-2010, 01:39 PM

+1
msglngthh

240sx123$ · 12-01-2010, 01:40 PM

GREAT idea. Two bump rule is retarded, one bump a day is much more practical.

holemilk00 · 12-01-2010, 03:20 PM

one bump a day is too much, it would be a pissing match for people bumping their threads for the day and extremely hard to track.

240sx123$ · 12-01-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by holemilk00

one bump a day is too much, it would be a pissing match for people bumping their threads for the day and extremely hard to track.

Just my opinion, but why is craigslist better than ebay? Because its a free for all. I can appreciate the need for some restriction, but for the most part I dont see the harm in a bump. Yeah, some threads get bumped back quickly, but it gives buyers the opportunity to find those deals that sometimes get overlooked. If a seller wants to bump his stuff once a day, i dont see that as a problem especially with how fast this forums moves.

And its easy to track. The dates and times are posted above each post.

OpieDopie · 12-01-2010, 06:07 PM

i agree.. one bump a day..
im not on zilvia every minute of the day to see peoples post and with out the bumps some of the greatest deals get overlooked all the time..

racepar1 · 12-01-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by holemilk00

one bump a day is too much, it would be a pissing match for people bumping their threads for the day and extremely hard to track.

Pretty much every seller on the forum bumps their threads once a day. The forum wouldn't be one single bit more competitive then it already is. The forum would be far less cluttered and take up less memory since there are less threads though.

holemilk00 · 12-01-2010, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 240sx123$

Just my opinion, but why is craigslist better than ebay? Because its a free for all. I can appreciate the need for some restriction, but for the most part I dont see the harm in a bump. Yeah, some threads get bumped back quickly, but it gives buyers the opportunity to find those deals that sometimes get overlooked. If a seller wants to bump his stuff once a day, i dont see that as a problem especially with how fast this forums moves.

And its easy to track. The dates and times are posted above each post.

First off, if you post the same thing for sale on craigslist day after day they will flag it, remove it and it is in violation of the user agreement.

Secondly, right now the classified mod only has to look over the thread to see the number of bumps. If you make it a daily limit, then the mod has to look at every thread and every post and take into account the time and day.

See where that would take more time?

racepar1 · 12-01-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by holemilk00

Secondly, right now the classified mod only has to look over the thread to see the number of bumps. If you make it a daily limit, then the mod has to look at every thread and every post and take into account the time and day.

I don't think it'll take much more time. The F/S moderator still has to look at every thread as it is, just instead of looking at the date of the bump he counts the amount. I don't see any reason to keep track of the time of the bump, just the date. Really if the guy wants to bump his thread at 11 PM and then 1 AM he's not doing himself any good anyways.

My biggest issues with the two bump rule is the hassle of creating thread after thread, and the clutter it creates in the F/S forum. I would think that the biggest benefit for zilvia.net would be the reduction of trash F/S threads. Hell I can't even close my own dead F/S threads anymore like I used to. All thost threads have to take up a considerable amount of memory.

CrOW · 12-01-2010, 11:50 PM

+1

One bump a day, keeps the doctor away.

Dninja · 12-02-2010, 12:02 AM

why not 1 bump per week from the threads creation?

240sx123$ · 12-02-2010, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dninja

why not 1 bump per week from the threads creation?

In one week, a thread will fall back 15 pages. I think a bump a day is seldom enough to prevent clutter, but often enough to keep a fast moving, competitive for sale forum.

racepar1 · 12-02-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 240sx123$

In one week, a thread will fall back 15 pages. I think a bump a day is seldom enough to prevent clutter, but often enough to keep a fast moving, competitive for sale forum.

Also that will be MUCH harder for the F/S moderator to keep track of. If you can only bump once a day it's more likely for the F/S moderator to be able to remember and recognize some of the threads that don't belong. In a couple day's time it's unlikely that the moderator would be able to remember which threads look out of place. That'll encourage more people to break the rules and would definitely create more work for the Mod.

I also think that this rule will reduce the need for moderation. If you can bump your thread once a day and not have to hassle with re-writing it then what's the point of breaking the rules? Right now people always try to squeeze in the extra bumps because they're too lazy to re-write their threads, even though it's as easy as copying it and pasting it...

5pecialist · 12-02-2010, 12:00 PM

It might help to have more subcategories.

drifter_for_life06 · 12-02-2010, 03:19 PM

+1 for once a day

sickstatus · 12-02-2010, 04:24 PM

i noticed replying to a response it counts as a "bump".

*Drift N Dragg* · 12-02-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sickstatus

i noticed replying to a response it counts as a "bump".

That is not true

Repling to a QUESTION is not a bump.

But Repling as " PM Sent ' or something along those lines are.

waxball88 · 12-03-2010, 08:18 AM

Have you guys ever been to PB nation? They run the same forums as you, they implemented an actual, clickable, bump button that lets you bump every 8 or 12hours. Simply click it and your thread goes to the top, posts are irrelevant i think.

240sx123$ · 12-03-2010, 08:22 AM

^^Thats pretty cool. Would save a LOT of mods time.

***enkei2k*** · 12-03-2010, 08:23 AM

how many of these threads are there going to be? we have many of these threads of people asking why the bump limit is 2 and it's been covered before here.

http://zilvia.net/f/forum-suggestion...w-threads.html

http://zilvia.net/f/forum-suggestion...ng-thread.html

http://zilvia.net/f/forum-suggestion...s-section.html

http://zilvia.net/f/forum-suggestion...mp-button.html

http://zilvia.net/f/forum-suggestion...e-bumping.html

vas570sx · 12-03-2010, 08:46 AM

1 bump a day!!!!

*Drift N Dragg* · 12-03-2010, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waxball88

Have you guys ever been to PB nation? They run the same forums as you, they implemented an actual, clickable, bump button that lets you bump every 8 or 12hours. Simply click it and your thread goes to the top, posts are irrelevant i think.

That is a really good Idea, I will pass it along to the Admins and the ppl in charge.

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Originally Posted by enkei2k

how many of these threads are there going to be? we have many of these threads of people asking why the bump limit is 2 and it's been covered before here.

http://zilvia.net/f/forum-suggestion...w-threads.html

http://zilvia.net/f/forum-suggestion...ng-thread.html

http://zilvia.net/f/forum-suggestion...s-section.html

http://zilvia.net/f/forum-suggestion...mp-button.html

http://zilvia.net/f/forum-suggestion...e-bumping.html

X2

azndoc · 12-03-2010, 09:03 AM

Oh that's cool I didn't know answering questions didn't count as a bump.

Thanks

azndoc · 12-03-2010, 09:08 AM

Also, I think the bump button is a good idea but should be reserved for premium members and advertisers since they already contribute to the forum and a special perk like that would be nice. It gives incentives for signing up for the $10 a year premium membership also.

Some people might bitch about having to pay $10 just to have the ability to have a bump button, but it helps with the cluster, they're selling shit anyways so what's $10 a year, and I think it helps out the forum.

Good luck

*Drift N Dragg* · 12-03-2010, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by azndoc

Oh that's cool I didn't know answering questions didn't count as a bump.

Thanks

No Problem, Just FYI .. Make sure its a legit answer .. as stated before something signle worded or not really answering is considered a bump.

Quote:

Originally Posted by azndoc

Also, I think the bump button is a good idea but should be reserved for premium members and advertisers since they already contribute to the forum and a special perk like that would be nice. It gives incentives for signing up for the $10 a year premium membership also.

Some people might bitch about having to pay $10 just to have the ability to have a bump button, but it helps with the cluster, they're selling shit anyways so what's $10 a year, and I think it helps out the forum.

Good luck

Another good Idea, I will be passing this along too.

racepar1 · 12-03-2010, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waxball88

Have you guys ever been to PB nation? They run the same forums as you, they implemented an actual, clickable, bump button that lets you bump every 8 or 12hours. Simply click it and your thread goes to the top, posts are irrelevant i think.

Quote:

Originally Posted by azndoc

Also, I think the bump button is a good idea but should be reserved for premium members and advertisers since they already contribute to the forum and a special perk like that would be nice. It gives incentives for signing up for the $10 a year premium membership also.

Some people might bitch about having to pay $10 just to have the ability to have a bump button, but it helps with the cluster, they're selling shit anyways so what's $10 a year, and I think it helps out the forum.

Good luck

Both are REALLY good ideas guys, thanks for posting them here! I want nothing from this thread but some sort of positive progression on refining the bump rule.

Yes I know there are other threads on this, although I haven't read them. I'm just hoping that this one might help where the others didn't...

sidewaysil80 · 12-03-2010, 11:54 AM

+1 i've seen it brought up alot but nothing has changed. hopefully this time it changes. btw, that bump button sounds like a great idea...hell, i would even become a premium member just to take advantage of it.

**mrmephistopheles** · 12-03-2010, 03:26 PM

Get us the info on how to make the bump button happen, and I'd definitely be willing to look into it.

The reasoning behind the bump limit is that I/we got tired of seeing 8 page threads with only one user posting in it saying 'bump!/bump it up!/to the top/etc'.

Jason913 · 12-04-2010, 10:06 AM

Here is a thread I have on pbnation:

!+~+! DM9 with virtue !+~+! FS *$520 shipped to your door* - PbNation

Top left, there is a button that says bump. Every 4 hours, it becomes green to the OP, and they can click it to bump their thread to the top of the forum their item is listed.

Obviously, every 4 hours on here would be chaotic. Once every 24 hours would be awesome.

drifter_for_life06 · 12-04-2010, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidewaysil80

+1 i've seen it brought up alot but nothing has changed. hopefully this time it changes. btw, that bump button sounds like a great idea...hell, i would even become a premium member just to take advantage of it.

x2 I've already contemplated becoming a premium member, but just one more perk would "bump" me towards actually doing it

11-30-2010, 01:40 PM	#1
racepar1 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Simi Valley, CA Age: 41 Posts: 9,006 Trader Rating: (106) Rides Gallery: racepar1 Feedback Score: 106 reviews	Revised F/S forum "bump" rule.... I personally think that our 2 bump limit is stupid. I do understand that we have to keep people from bumping all the time, but it's a waste of space and time to have to write 20 threads to sell one item because you're only allowed to bump it twice before it's closed. I propose that the bump rule should be changed to one bump per day, with unlimited bumps on a thread. I see no reason why having to write a new thread would provide any benefit to anyone.

12-01-2010, 03:20 PM	#4
holemilk00 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 2,485 Trader Rating: (33) Feedback Score: 33 reviews	one bump a day is too much, it would be a pissing match for people bumping their threads for the day and extremely hard to track. __________________ I had a cool signature

12-01-2010, 11:50 PM	#10
CrOW Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2010 Location: Where you live? Posts: 490 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	+1 One bump a day, keeps the doctor away. __________________

12-02-2010, 03:19 PM	#15
drifter_for_life06 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Freedom, PA Age: 35 Posts: 775 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	+1 for once a day __________________ RPS13: +.020" 2871r 264's AEM EMS http://enjukuracing.com/#_l_4s

12-02-2010, 04:24 PM	#16
sickstatus Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SoCal Age: 33 Posts: 1,539 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	i noticed replying to a response it counts as a "bump". __________________ straights are for fast cars, corners are for fast drivers.

12-01-2010, 01:39 PM	#2
JRwerks Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SOCAL Posts: 1,200 Trader Rating: (55) Feedback Score: 55 reviews	+1 msglngthh

12-01-2010, 01:40 PM	#3
240sx123$ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA Posts: 603 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	GREAT idea. Two bump rule is retarded, one bump a day is much more practical.

12-01-2010, 06:07 PM	#6
OpieDopie Join Date: May 2010 Location: SANTA MARIA, CA Age: 35 Posts: 14 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i agree.. one bump a day.. im not on zilvia every minute of the day to see peoples post and with out the bumps some of the greatest deals get overlooked all the time..

12-02-2010, 12:02 AM	#11
Dninja Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 8 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why not 1 bump per week from the threads creation?

12-02-2010, 12:00 PM	#14
5pecialist Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (at rock bottom) Posts: 442 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	It might help to have more subcategories.

12-03-2010, 08:18 AM	#18
waxball88 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gainesville Posts: 1,061 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Have you guys ever been to PB nation? They run the same forums as you, they implemented an actual, clickable, bump button that lets you bump every 8 or 12hours. Simply click it and your thread goes to the top, posts are irrelevant i think.

12-03-2010, 08:22 AM	#19
240sx123$ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: PA Posts: 603 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	^^Thats pretty cool. Would save a LOT of mods time.

12-03-2010, 08:23 AM	#20
*enkei2k* Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: over the river and through the woods Age: 39 Posts: 7,160 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	how many of these threads are there going to be? we have many of these threads of people asking why the bump limit is 2 and it's been covered before here. http://zilvia.net/f/forum-suggestion...w-threads.html http://zilvia.net/f/forum-suggestion...ng-thread.html http://zilvia.net/f/forum-suggestion...s-section.html http://zilvia.net/f/forum-suggestion...mp-button.html http://zilvia.net/f/forum-suggestion...e-bumping.html __________________ Ask enkei2k xquizitditz

12-03-2010, 08:46 AM	#21
vas570sx Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: west palm beach Posts: 844 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	1 bump a day!!!!

12-03-2010, 09:03 AM	#23
azndoc Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 42 Posts: 9,487 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: azndoc Feedback Score: 47 reviews	Oh that's cool I didn't know answering questions didn't count as a bump. Thanks

12-03-2010, 09:08 AM	#24
azndoc Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 42 Posts: 9,487 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: azndoc Feedback Score: 47 reviews	Also, I think the bump button is a good idea but should be reserved for premium members and advertisers since they already contribute to the forum and a special perk like that would be nice. It gives incentives for signing up for the $10 a year premium membership also. Some people might bitch about having to pay $10 just to have the ability to have a bump button, but it helps with the cluster, they're selling shit anyways so what's $10 a year, and I think it helps out the forum. Good luck

12-03-2010, 11:54 AM	#27
sidewaysil80 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NoVA Age: 37 Posts: 1,711 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	+1 i've seen it brought up alot but nothing has changed. hopefully this time it changes. btw, that bump button sounds like a great idea...hell, i would even become a premium member just to take advantage of it.

12-04-2010, 10:06 AM	#29
Jason913 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 276 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Here is a thread I have on pbnation: !+~+! DM9 with virtue !+~+! FS $520 shipped to your door - PbNation Top left, there is a button that says bump. Every 4 hours, it becomes green to the OP, and they can click it to bump their thread to the top of the forum their item is listed. Obviously, every 4 hours on here would be chaotic. Once every 24 hours would be awesome.