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Old 10-11-2019, 02:11 PM   #12331
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I'd suggest future of the "enthusiast's" automobile. There is as many non-RWD converation, as there is cars that 98% of zilvians can't even afford so...

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Annnnnnd the C8.R! Call it generic looking if you want. Shit looks fucking rad imo.




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As far as changing the thread title not a bad idea, lots of us have bought different cars and discuss different cars as things have changed drastically.
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2019 lightning lap results. very impressed with the gt3rs and urus

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Old 10-15-2019, 09:41 AM   #12338
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Looks like the gag order has been lifted and results are coming in on the C8:

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Looks like C and D may be doing a little more swinging than the other two...
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reviews are pretty awful. what I got out of the road and track review was that it does great in straight line, understeers, doesnt handle well at the limit. comfortable for old farts to cruise in.

seems more like a touring car. hoping it gets sorted out somehow, and really hoping hard thats the case. would suck bad if the way the car drives is intentional.
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So how do those reviews compare to the reviews when the base C7 was coming out?
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or change it to "Future SHITBOX Thread" since thats what all these cars will wind up being anyway lol
I cosign this one, as I am always in this thread or on the lookout for newer cars that will (at least, eventually) fit that same slot that the 240sx did for me...
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So how do those reviews compare to the reviews when the base C7 was coming out?
Exactly,

When I hear understeer, I think easily corrected street safety. As much as manufacturers love to brag about track times, they are just as concerned with killing inexpenerienced drivers with snap over steer.


I doubt the car has the Subaru nose plow problem.
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I cosign this one, as I am always in this thread or on the lookout for newer cars that will (at least, eventually) fit that same slot that the 240sx did for me...

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So "You need a Mustang Thread"
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Old 10-16-2019, 06:12 AM   #12344
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Looks like the gag order has been lifted and results are coming in on the C8:

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Looks like C and D may be doing a little more swinging than the other two...
Yeah I wasnt expecting a flawless car by any means. Im sure if they compared a 2014 C7 to the first year C8 the C8 beats it in every way.
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I recall the C7 stingray pulled more g's, had a shorter stopping distance, was around 200 lbs lighter. reviewers weren't complaining about the steering and noticeable understeer. Reviewers seemed disappointed in the response of the DCT compared to Porsche, but realistically what can you expect there? I will definitely say it was a poor choice by not offering a manual.

The C7 was most likely better than the C6 in every way, but the reviewers for the C8 seemed more placating than genuinely excited.
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I recall the C7 stingray pulled more g's, had a shorter stopping distance, was around 200 lbs lighter. reviewers weren't complaining about the steering and noticeable understeer. Reviewers seemed disappointed in the response of the DCT compared to Porsche, but realistically what can you expect there? I will definitely say it was a poor choice by not offering a manual.

The C7 was most likely better than the C6 in every way, but the reviewers for the C8 seemed more placating than genuinely excited.
This is also the Media Entertainment Industrial Complex we are talking about here.


I'll reserve judgment until I can see for myself or actual enthusiast content.

Would not shock me to see butthurt journalists looking to nitpick and cry or just being edgy and snooty for personnel validation and revenue.

Understeer doesn't surprise me. It's a base model and GM doesn't want to see a slew of snap oversteer crashes.

C7 ZR1 and Z06 are comptely different then a regular Stingray.
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Saw this last night.

Like, um... What!!?

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i actually like the Challenger... and the new Camaro.

had a new 4 cyl turbo Camaro here at the shop getting its windshield replaced (was damaged during transport). i got to sit in it and fiddle a bit. super nice car, though i hate the huge blind spot caused by that tiny rear side window (stupid modern safety bullshit). clutch was really squishy though, i expected something a bit firmer!
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i actually like the challenger... and the new Camaro.


Big fan of the Challenger for many reasons.

I'm seriously interested in what Dodge does and what the outcome is. Hopefully it's 392 based and not a HC/RE varient.

4,200lb track special....




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Puerto Ricans doing Puerto Rican things in Puerto Rico apparently. The vid description says they managed it with just nitrous, exhaust, slicks and some minor weight reduction.

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That title change messed with me. Thought this was a whole new thread until I started reading the comments.
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https://www.motortrend.com/news/dodg...ggest-baddest/

The wide body treatment totally changes the look of the Challenger into something I can tolerate and actually like. I hate green sea, but I dig this audacity of this car.
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yeah they are nice looking cars. cool paint options too that I wish other manufacturers would apply. saw a yellow on black demon (not super rare in los angeles) the other day and it was stunning on the road. nice exhaust and no obnoxious burbles either.

hope dodge makes a widebody acr grand caravan some day.
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FCA's marketing is spot on too.

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