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Old 04-23-2021, 12:37 PM   #61
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This is the type of tone he is referencing. He clearly articulated his thoughts and he is called frail in response. This is a reflection on you, not him. You likely don't realize you're doing it, but many people here are so focused on maintaining the hard-nosed Zilvia reputation that it discourages people from commenting. There is a reason you see the same 5 people commenting on every thread.
Naw, it's a reflection on him.

Nobody was mean, called him names or making fun of him. So for him to be offended, that comes from the inside.

You can't control what other people say, do or think. But you can control how you feel and react.

I don't see any hostility at all in this thread. A difference of opinion, sure. But no one is being rude and using the wrong pronouns.

This is what happens when people are allowed to freely converse instead of being forced to immediately conform to the same group think "fact checked" correct opinion.
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Old 04-23-2021, 12:53 PM   #62
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Naw, it's a reflection on him.

Nobody was mean, called him names or making fun of him. So for him to be offended, that comes from the inside.

You can't control what other people say, do or think. But you can control how you feel and react.

I don't see any hostility at all in this thread. A difference of opinion, sure. But no one is being rude and using the wrong pronouns.

This is what happens when people are allowed to freely converse instead of being forced to immediately conform to the same group think "fact checked" correct opinion.
My man, this medium isn't your strong suit. I know you've contributed a lot, and you have a lot to contribute, but you don't do well with people disagreeing with you. You guys were making great points but then your comments grow hard to read because it feels like you're ranting, even if the facts are in your favor.
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Old 04-23-2021, 02:42 PM   #63
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One thing I'd like to point out: no one is bashing anyone for buying a track car. Now we're arguing what sort of condition JC in particular seems to be advertising. Brother, they are not advertising cars as-is.
Exactly and this right here is my problem with them.... JC is clearly positioning themselves as best in class/top of the food chain. All their vehicles appear to be professionally detailed, photographed, and come across as being described at a very detailed and honest level. And of course with premium pricing to match their supposedly premium product.
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I think we can all agree that whatever their business model is, there's no way it's sustainable.
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Old 04-23-2021, 03:59 PM   #65
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This is the type of tone he is referencing. He clearly articulated his thoughts and he is called frail in response. This is a reflection on you, not him. You likely don't realize you're doing it, but many people here are so focused on maintaining the hard-nosed Zilvia reputation that it discourages people from commenting. There is a reason you see the same 5 people commenting on every thread.
Dude...I just reread the thread, and I don't even know why this cat is upset.

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I'd be scared if you didn't love it after dropping $30K on an S14!
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I guess my point is....after reading economix's post - do you really think he spends any extensive amount of time working on his own cars? He uses his new NIsmo diff as an excuse to inspect his subframe "wonkiness." Don't write a review if you haven't even inspected/diagnosed your own car.
...and these are the two 'worst' comments regarding economix. No one cares that Zilvia is 'hard-nosed'. We care that we can air things out without being banned.


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Exactly and this right here is my problem with them.... JC is clearly positioning themselves as best in class/top of the food chain. All their vehicles appear to be professionally detailed, photographed, and come across as being described at a very detailed and honest level. And of course with premium pricing to match their supposedly premium product.
RDOG gets it.

...and I hope that anyone reading this is looking at the customer's stories and judging for themselves.

Key takeaways:

1. No, it isn't just Schassis.
2. Look at how JC (in particular) writes a fucking novel about their cars like they are some private collector on BaT.
3. No one cares if you are buying a 'collector' car or a track car...the point is they are selling cars that have hidden rust, accident history, and engine issues while marketing them as 'survivor' cars with no issues.
4. They are documented as directly lying about condition.
5. If you do not do the required research, discussion here will be difficult.
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Old 04-23-2021, 11:09 PM   #66
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bigs, dude, I'm sorry man. If you can ignore this shit after this post, then we gotta agree to disagree. We don't have to hate each other, but I really think you telling me I'm 'sensationalizing' this shit with 'zero context' is uncalled for.
I said that to Corbic, not you.

The part in that screenshot you posted where the guy talks about how he bought the car sight unseen kinda sums up my whole point.

You and Corbic are hyper focused on clueless buyer's reviews, which begs the question...where do the good reviews from informed buyers factor into this?

I understand that not everyone buying these cars has the knowledge or capability to make an informed purchase, but is that grounds to blow this shit out of proportion? There are so many factors that need to be accounted for. I'm seeing a lot of passive reviews from people that didn't take the time to inspect something they are paying "collector" prices for. Translation - I have disposable income, the picture of that car looks nice, and i'll complain about it later once I receive it.

Thanks for your review Economix. Let us know how the shop you send your car to solves your undiagnosed subframe "wonkiness" and bent exhaust

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These are real problems with big financial impacts for the kids and an over abundance of caution is always a good thing.
Welcome to 2021 Corbic. These cars aren't for kids anymore. Just accept that you're out of touch. Shit, i'm 30 and I feel out of touch. You guys crack me up.

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Old 04-24-2021, 02:18 AM   #67
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I’ll bite. Its been a while since last posting but in hopes of educating new community members and providing amplifying information to possible buyers, here’s my 2cents.

I have visited JC a few times and attended a meet hosted by JC several years ago.
I was in search of a Honda Acty or similar Kei truck. Being JC had the closest inventory, I made the trip.
The associates were very distant and let me inspect the vehicle alone without much interruption other than offering a test drive. The Acty seemed as advertised, its more difficult to hide discrepancies with these trucks than a s13 for example. There was acceptable levels of rust in common areas, engine idled smoothly, and not much evidence of oil leaking from seals. Either the truck had been recently overhauled or maintenance handled on time. Interior was far from perfect but acceptable for my needs. Test drive lasted around 20 minutes unsupervised, everything functioned fine. IIRC asking was 8k, too high in my opinion for the condition. JC asked 25% upfront to hold the vehicle until banks opened after the holiday weekend. I continued my search elsewhere, this was mid 2018.
About 7 or so months later I made the trip to JC to look at 4 door R32 M type. Once again the staff was friendly and hands off. The body seemed straight, no sounds of bondo or apparent patch work. Paint matched the door jams and trunk and paint peeling due to age. Common rust places were acceptable, RB20 had an ever so slight lifter resonance but typical to a decent engine swap set found stateside. The test drive again was unsupervised and around 20 minutes, gears were fine and did not overheat with AC blowing in traffic. This one was hard to walk away from, but I did not trust the swapped kouki side marker/headlight, freshly painted grill and gtr hood. This halfway “upgrade” raised too many questions that JC could not answer.
On my way out I spotted a white Navan R33 4 door. Again it seemed fine until the associate moved it outside for the test drive. It began to aggressively spill gasoline from the rear right , needless to say I did not test drive. I figured either the fuel lines were rotted or tank had been recently replaced incorrectly. This solidified my decision in not purchasing at JC. Why place a vehicle in a showroom ready status when it’s clearly not? This then raises other concerning questions.
Take what you will from my experience. I am not here to bias anyone from purchasing or otherwise from JC, just adding information to the registrar for those who may be in the market. Do your research, don't be lazy. Its all to easy to ride the cancel culture trend, but in the end its your time and money wasted. 2cents.
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Old 04-25-2021, 04:20 PM   #68
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I said that to Corbic, not you.

The part in that screenshot you posted where the guy talks about how he bought the car sight unseen kinda sums up my whole point.

You and Corbic are hyper focused on clueless buyer's reviews, which begs the question...where do the good reviews from informed buyers factor into this?

I understand that not everyone buying these cars has the knowledge or capability to make an informed purchase, but is that grounds to blow this shit out of proportion? There are so many factors that need to be accounted for. I'm seeing a lot of passive reviews from people that didn't take the time to inspect something they are paying "collector" prices for. Translation - I have disposable income, the picture of that car looks nice, and i'll complain about it later once I receive it.

Thanks for your review Economix. Let us know how the shop you send your car to solves your undiagnosed subframe "wonkiness" and bent exhaust



Welcome to 2021 Corbic. These cars aren't for kids anymore. Just accept that you're out of touch. Shit, i'm 30 and I feel out of touch. You guys crack me up.
I see your point 100%. I am not blind to the buyer's blurb about purchasing anyway, but again the fluids, the cracks...things that were specifically said to have been taken care of...that's the takeaway.


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Do your research, don't be lazy. Its all to easy to ride the cancel culture trend, but in the end its your time and money wasted. 2cents.

This post helps people do their research. Funny, Honda Acty's are like sub $1000 here, unless you want a classic one.
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Old 04-28-2021, 10:43 PM   #69
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Take what you will from my experience. I am not here to bias anyone from purchasing or otherwise from JC, just adding information to the registrar for those who may be in the market. Do your research, don't be lazy. Its all to easy to ride the cancel culture trend, but in the end its your time and money wasted.
Thanks for posting. Good first hand account of dealing with JC.
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Another great UTG video.

https://youtu.be/I-XYgwI4Zqs

Gas tank issue is very true.
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Old 05-11-2021, 09:57 AM   #72
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Great info in this thread! Info is much appreciated as I was curious about JC
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its great seeing this because JC is located very close to me , and i have a friend that has purchased several of their vehicles. hasnt had many problems with them, and the quality of each was better than most importers that i have seen
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