Donald Trump For President

[zombiewolf513]

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

Trump is the only one that will enforce some serious change. Now, he could possibly drive the country to the ground or he can turn it around into a prosperous nation again, flip a coin... it's kinda exciting...

However, if you want Obama v2.0 with more of your rights slowly and methodically taken away vote for Hillary / Sanders / insert puppet name here.

Thank God someone said it.

I'd rather put the country into Trump's untested political hands than into the hands of someone that's already proven themselves unworthy of the presidency.

[Lees_Garage]

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[chris_240sx]

Originally Posted by brndck

trump is a racist, hypocritical, misogynistic liar, who claims to be successful, but his father gifted him a million dollars when he was 20 for him to start buying and selling real estate.

His grandparents were immigrants, yet he rails against immigrants, he had bankrupted his businesses and exploited loopholes in the tax laws, how anyone can consider him to be a viable candidate is beyond me.

More or less how I feel about him. A lot of people like his brashness and the image he would take on anyone/anything, but I think it makes him look immature and unprofessional.

[simmode1]

Originally Posted by zombiewolf513

You can't even say that you dont want other country's people overfilling your country without being called racist nowadays. Act like the country and taxpayer money is a free for all or something.

Sounds like a bunch of Hillary voters in here...

Why does Trump demonize only certain groups of immigrants? We know that Mexicans aren't the only ppl coming here. We have tons of Europeans & Asians coming here as well. But Trump wants to deport all of the brown ppl rather than presenting a path to citizenship like other ethnicities have access to. It's a double standard, its easy to see through and it's bullshit. Give them a road to citizenship and make them taxpayers as well. Deporting them and losing the money they spend would damage our economy so damn bad.

[brndck]

People neglect the fact that "brown" people do pay into our tax base, with no chance of ever receiving anything in return for their contribution.

Furthermore, the "stealing our jobs" claim is bullshit. I have yet to meet a single person who looks forward to a career of picking strawberries or lettuce in the Santa Maria sun for 12+ hrs a day.

I'm quite liberal, and I think Clinton is a fucking snake. I hope to science that she gets run out of town on a rope.

Ben carson is quickly proving that "brain surgeon" should no longer be used as a synonym for "very intelligent".

Bernie Sanders is the only reason I'm not voting for Vermin Supreme again.

[Highway Riding]

Sad state of politics to be honest. If your a conservative even more reason to be sad. Trump has common sense idea's like use a umbrella if you are going out in the rain. Ben Carson is just silly. But yet these are the front runners. FML! I like Chris Christie, Marco Rubio and Carly Fiorina yet they will not go far at all! Sad state for sure.

[STR8 H8N]

did trump drop out yet?

[brndck]

Originally Posted by Highway Riding

Sad state of politics to be honest. If your a conservative even more reason to be sad. Trump has common sense idea's like use a umbrella if you are going out in the rain. Ben Carson is just silly. But yet these are the front runners. FML! I like Chris Christie, Marco Rubio and Carly Fiorina yet they will not go far at all! Sad state for sure.

"common sense" like "I'm a self made billionaire" when his father loaned him a million bucks to go invest (some reports claim it was MUCH more than the Trump-claimed number of $1million) when he was just starting out. Hardly "self made".

Furthermore, he would be worth an estimated $10 BILLION more if he had just invested in a unmanaged index fund.

http://www.vox.com/2015/9/2/9248963/...ump-index-fund
http://www.moneytalksnews.com/why-yo...-donald-trump/

Fiorino slashed THOUSANDS of jobs during her tenure at HP and then walked off with a severance package worth millions. Yeah I definitely want her at the helm.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-job-scam.html

[Highway Riding]

Originally Posted by brndck

"common sense" like "I'm a self made billionaire" when his father loaned him a million bucks to go invest (some reports claim it was MUCH more than the Trump-claimed number of $1million) when he was just starting out. Hardly "self made".

Furthermore, he would be worth an estimated $10 BILLION more if he had just invested in a unmanaged index fund.

http://www.vox.com/2015/9/2/9248963/...ump-index-fund
http://www.moneytalksnews.com/why-yo...-donald-trump/

Fiorino slashed THOUSANDS of jobs during her tenure at HP and then walked off with a severance package worth millions. Yeah I definitely want her at the helm.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-job-scam.html

I most certainly get the Fiorina hate as my uncle was fired directly after she took office along with all the others. But that is business. Out of all the candidates feel Christie (even hated in our home state), Marco and Fiorina are the only true contenders. An old timer told me you have to pick your poison. I would pick Carly over Hillary any day of the week.

[Highway Riding]

Originally Posted by STR8 H8N

did trump drop out yet?

Unfortunately not yet. The circus continues. While I get it for sure he is just taking good votes away!

[TMW]

Originally Posted by Highway Riding

like Chris Christie, Marco Rubio and Carly Fiorina.

i literally hate those 3 candidates more than anyone on either side

the debate last night...

in all honesty, hate to sound like reince, but the moderators were horrible. jake tapper is obviously not some right winger, but he did a decent job during the cnn debate.

i have no idea why they let fiorina ramble on forever when it wasnt her turn to speak, but when anyone else went over by 1 second it was "thank you thank you thank you"

the debate didnt really change my opinion (for the better) of anyone on the stage, just made me hate fiorina, christie, and rubio more.

the fact that rubio can talk about firing federal workers when they dont show up, then not show up to his federal job is unbelievable. since june 1 rubio has missed more than 60% of roll call votes in the senate. paul who is also running has missed 1%...

fiorina runs some businesses into the ground. gets destroyed in a senate race, now wants to run the country.

christie wants more nsa spying, will enfore marijuana prohibition, more war, more spending...

[unpaintedhatch]

I don't vote because when Politicians make promises they are not legally obligated to keep said promises and most are scumbag law school snakes!!

[mixeds14]

Originally Posted by simmode1

Why does Trump demonize only certain groups of immigrants? We know that Mexicans aren't the only ppl coming here. We have tons of Europeans & Asians coming here as well. But Trump wants to deport all of the brown ppl rather than presenting a path to citizenship like other ethnicities have access to. It's a double standard, its easy to see through and it's bullshit. Give them a road to citizenship and make them taxpayers as well. Deporting them and losing the money they spend would damage our economy so damn bad.

something tells me that trumps hate towards mexico has something to do with his business failure he had back in 07 I believe, there nothing more hateful for a business man than losing and as he said it, he hates losing.


he lost a lot of money or potential money in that resort that started to be built in Tijuana, Baja California mexico (trump ocean resort) even though the investors of the condominiums lost 200k+ a piece and seems like he took that personally.
funny how nobody seems to mention any of it or atleast ask him about it on the debates to see if that has something to do with his hate wich acourse he will deny.

[Highway Riding]

Originally Posted by TMW

i literally hate those 3 candidates more than anyone on either side

the debate last night...

in all honesty, hate to sound like reince, but the moderators were horrible. jake tapper is obviously not some right winger, but he did a decent job during the cnn debate.

i have no idea why they let fiorina ramble on forever when it wasnt her turn to speak, but when anyone else went over by 1 second it was "thank you thank you thank you"

the debate didnt really change my opinion (for the better) of anyone on the stage, just made me hate fiorina, christie, and rubio more.

the fact that rubio can talk about firing federal workers when they dont show up, then not show up to his federal job is unbelievable. since june 1 rubio has missed more than 60% of roll call votes in the senate. paul who is also running has missed 1%...

fiorina runs some businesses into the ground. gets destroyed in a senate race, now wants to run the country.

christie wants more nsa spying, will enfore marijuana prohibition, more war, more spending...

This is the good thing about a democracy. We can "try to choose" or pick our "poison". the HP thing has been beaten to death. Same thing happened with Obama as far as a no show or absent senator with a barely there record. Chris Christie actually is the best candidate as a republican Gov in the bluest state in America. Fed has spoken on Marijuana. It is legal for medical purposes in NJ right now! When it comes to wars we can leave that to our generals. Politics isn't pretty!

[TMW]

Originally Posted by Highway Riding

This is the good thing about a democracy. We can "try to choose" or pick our "poison". the HP thing has been beaten to death. Same thing happened with Obama as far as a no show or absent senator with a barely there record. Chris Christie actually is the best candidate as a republican Gov in the bluest state in America. Fed has spoken on Marijuana. It is legal for medical purposes in NJ right now! When it comes to wars we can leave that to our generals. Politics isn't pretty!

so you think fiorina despite her record is qualified, and you would want her president?

obama doing that is unacceptable as well. rubio is literally the republican obama. has no experience in the real world. just college, state legislature, and a first term senator. now he wants to be president and people on the right dont call him on it like they did obama.

i dont think nj is the bluest state in the country first. and the reason that he does well is because hes such a big government rino. medical marijuana is so hard to obtain in nj it might as well be illegal still. the fact is, he has said that he would enforce federal law on marijuana and lock people up for it. sounds like someone who doesnt respect the 10th amendment. and the federal government hasnt spoken on marijuana. they said it was a schedule 1 in 1970 and it still is. the obama justice department has just decided to turn a blind eye to states who have decided otherwise.

[sean710]

I am from Vermont, if Bernie Sanders becomes president I am moving to Canada. F that guy, he hasn't done anything but fuck farmers in this state. Bernie says free college and everyone loses there mind. If you want to live in a socialist country vote Bernie you pinko liberals.

[brndck]

Originally Posted by sean710

I am from Vermont, if Bernie Sanders becomes president I am moving to Canada. F that guy, he hasn't done anything but fuck farmers in this state. Bernie says free college and everyone loses there mind. If you want to live in a socialist country vote Bernie you pinko liberals.

you DO realize how much MORE socialist canada is compared to the USA right???

[TMW]

^^and that was with a conservative leader for the last decade

with trudeau its gonna be crazy

[simmode1]

Originally Posted by sean710

If you want to live in a socialist country vote Bernie you pinko liberals.

That's the plan.

[sean710]

Originally Posted by brndck

you DO realize how much MORE socialist canada is compared to the USA right???

Canada is a socialist country, yes I know, but you do realize the national debt is 18 plus trillion dollars? Canada has what? 1.5 trillion dollars max? Get ready to pay taxes out the ass. Bernie Sanders has already made Vermont hard to live in for actual Vermonters, you can hardly retire here and is in the top 5 worsts states to make a living. There's a reason why we are the same size as New Hampshire land wise but have what? less than half the people they do? I'm not saying I would vote Trump but Bernie Sanders is not the option here.

watch this if you think you're feeling the bern, you are just sheeple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTyqHHoifNY

[simmode1]

For Bernie's plans to work, his entire platform hangs on campaign finance reform. Forget all the socialist programs for a minute and focus on that. His PRIMARY goal is to ensure that elected officials can no longer be bought by companies and that those companies can no longer funnel ginormous secret donations to lobbyists who push any agenda for the highest bidder, no matter how harmful it is. IF (and thats a huge IF) Bernie can reform the political donation process, he will ensure that citizens have a louder voice in DC because politicians will have to build more community support rather than have their campaign paid for by some corporate entity looking to maximize their profits via legislation. Some of these corporations/banks are using the existing process to rob us blind and that's why there's no money for programs that benefit the greater good. Sadly, the last candidate to take a serious go at this issue was JFK and we know what happened to him...

[TMW]

Originally Posted by simmode1

Forget all the socialist programs for a minute and focus on that.

what

i really really dont like hillary, but id prefer her to bernie

how can bernie seriously think that spending huge amounts of money on government programs right now is the right solution

oh but he'll pay for it by taxing the 1% 90% (which is grotesque and immoral) and taxing wall street speculation... thatll definitely cover everything he's talking about

"every other major country in the world" blah blah blah

i actually want to know your take on this simmode since you seem to be a real supporter of him. money wise, nothing he says makes any sense whatsoever

[sean710]

Like TMW said, it's the socialist aspect that is wrong, socialism slows innovation and technology, makes people think that the government owes them every thing, and it rewards people who are trying to actually make a difference in this country the same as someone who could care less. Socialism just wouldn't work in America and people need to realize that. I'm not saying Bernie sanders doesn't have some good points but he would just destroy this country financially.

[KiLLeR2001]

Checkmate.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by roboticnissan

I don't trust him to not have hidden agendas. He is for himself above all else. His views have all.flip flopped the last few years to fit the majority.

The main one being his view on the 2nd amendment. Not trust worthy, not getting my vote unless he's going up against Hilary or sanders

Was going to say, how is that any different then Hillary?


Unfortunately it's so hard to be President that you really have to be a cunning manipulative bastard with ulterior motives. I'm sure Trumps motive truly is just power (to shove it in all his doubters faces) and to cement his legacy.

He's 69 and has money. He has 10 years left before he is shitting in a diaper.

What would you rather be known as, hotel owner with a silly TV show, or the 45th President of the United States?

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by simmode1

That's the plan.

Move to China then.

[TMW]

Originally Posted by Corbic

What would you rather be known as, hotel owner with a silly TV show, or the 45th President of the United States?

dont forget he is in the wwe hall of fame

so even if he became president, wwe hall of fame would be his biggest accomplishment

[Highway Riding]

Originally Posted by TMW

so you think fiorina despite her record is qualified, and you would want her president?

obama doing that is unacceptable as well. rubio is literally the republican obama. has no experience in the real world. just college, state legislature, and a first term senator. now he wants to be president and people on the right dont call him on it like they did obama.

i dont think nj is the bluest state in the country first. and the reason that he does well is because hes such a big government rino. medical marijuana is so hard to obtain in nj it might as well be illegal still. the fact is, he has said that he would enforce federal law on marijuana and lock people up for it. sounds like someone who doesnt respect the 10th amendment. and the federal government hasnt spoken on marijuana. they said it was a schedule 1 in 1970 and it still is. the obama justice department has just decided to turn a blind eye to states who have decided otherwise.

I still consider her a good candidate. There is no such thing as Captain America with zero skeletons. Who else is actually qualified? Dems didn't call out Obama as is customary for either side. That's why we unfortunately have a 2 party system lol. You have to pick your poison or sit on the sidelines and do nothing.

[STR8 H8N]

[gearhead55]

Originally Posted by TMW

what

i really really dont like hillary, but id prefer her to bernie

how can bernie seriously think that spending huge amounts of money on government programs right now is the right solution

oh but he'll pay for it by taxing the 1% 90% (which is grotesque and immoral) and taxing wall street speculation... thatll definitely cover everything he's talking about

"every other major country in the world" blah blah blah

i actually want to know your take on this simmode since you seem to be a real supporter of him. money wise, nothing he says makes any sense whatsoever

What makes you think he would spend "huge amounts of money" on government programs? What we spend needs to be distributed differently, and thats what Bernie is proposing.

Look at this:


And this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...092102074.html

The cost of providing college tuition is a drop in the bucket compared to what we spend on wars. We need to change that.

Military spending is absolutely ridiculous but no politician will cut spending there because every state has some hand in producing whats needed to keep the military operating at the current size.

The student debt issue is a fucking disgrace for this country. You mock the "every other country" thing, but people say that for a reason. The united states is a fucking joke for raping the futures of the current generation to make money now. People act like having education paid for is some crazy idea and the same people don't bat an eye at paying for a new stealth fighter that costs 180 million for EACH JET that performs WORSE than the planes that we already have.

We need a reallocation of spending, not an increase in taxes, and thats what Bernie is proposing.

Originally Posted by sean710

Like TMW said, it's the socialist aspect that is wrong, socialism slows innovation and technology, makes people think that the government owes them every thing, and it rewards people who are trying to actually make a difference in this country the same as someone who could care less. Socialism just wouldn't work in America and people need to realize that. I'm not saying Bernie sanders doesn't have some good points but he would just destroy this country financially.

Show me some evidence that socialism does these things. People are so scared of "socialism" because of scare tactics. Why wouldn't policies that work effectively elsewhere not work in the united states? The only thing that separates us from everywhere else is the value placed on the pursuing of material wealth at the expense of other humans. There is nothing wrong with thinking about the good of the society instead of focusing on the individual.