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Old 01-25-2018, 03:11 PM   #31
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In Instyle mag she said she won’t run, it’s not in here DNA. However that was BEFORE her speech at the awards though. Lots of people said they wouldn’t do lots of shit. I think she’s full of shit and she’s going to run.
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In Instyle mag she said she won’t run, it’s not in here DNA. However that was BEFORE her speech at the awards though. Lots of people said they wouldn’t do lots of shit. I think she’s full of shit and she’s going to run.
Like trump??

He said he would never run to be president............and here we are several years later.
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Like trump??

He said he would never run to be president............and here we are several years later.
He actually said TO Oprah on her show he would run for President if the country needed him.
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He actually said TO Oprah on her show he would run for President if the country needed him.
..............which proves just how much trump flip flops on his stance. So he said on Oprah's show he would run for president. However, he has also said on many ocassions he would NOT run for president (he said so in 2011-2012 when Obama was up for relection)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.86e69629a2de


Again, trump said he would never run for the presidency several years ago.

Not sure why the standard is now different. Stop moving the goal posts.........
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Ummmm yeah he flip flops. He’s been a NY Democrat and friend of the Clintons for most of his adult life.
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Ummmm yeah he flip flops. He’s been a NY Democrat and friend of the Clintons for most of his adult life.
Incorrect again. He has been a repub for most of his adult life (and this only too 2 secs to find). Actually he has been a repub atleast twice as long as any other affiliation

(20 years a registered repub. the next closest is dem at a paltry 9 years in comparison). Fun fact; the last time he registered Democrat was almost 10 years ago

Political party Republican (1987–99, 2009–11, 2012–present)
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Reform (1999–2001)
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trump has switch political parties atleast 5 times in the last 20 years.

Is there anything else you would like to erroneously report on??
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Old 01-26-2018, 06:22 AM   #37
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Dude, it’s not that serious. I was speaking in general terms just trying to have a casual discussion.
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.............yep sure.

A discussion is bringing up factual topics. Not just posting random (incorrect) statements and then backing down when someone calls you out on your impasses and trying to hide behind "general terms"........

And yes, I take this as a discussion. But when someone consistently posts false information, I am going to call them out on it. Ignoring is the reason we have what we have now........tv stars paying escorts who cannot stop from telling blatant lies as president.

And yes, trump tried to fire Mueller. Watergate de ja vue.........

The man really cannot be that stupid.......

And yes it's that serious. Its the president of the USA. I am taking it seriously as it directly affects me and my family. trump is not the human I want any of my children to aspire to.
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Oh boy. Lol.

Please google “casual” and “general terms “. I used the word Ummmmm for crying out loud.

I’ll pass on the rest of this convo though. I genuinely don’t have time to fact check everything I say in a political discussion.

Enjoy your day folks.
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I’ll pass on the rest of this convo though. I genuinely don’t have time to fact check everything I say in a political discussion.

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That single quote right there sums up everything in regards to this "discussion"

The fact that you simply do not have the time (or refuse to make the time) to research actual facts.........as opposed to parrotting whatever talking points you subscribe to and just to just posting (for all intents and purposes) "hearsay" as supposed "facts". Or even attempting to challenge the "hearsay" with some of your own thoughts and trying to decipher if it indeed makes sense. Critical thinking 101.

And if you have time to post discussion topics on Zilvia, you have time to research proper facts.......Just saying. It takes me less time read 1 article a day than to sit on Zilvia having a "casual" discussion.......Like I am doing now. Google is (literally) a click away.

That is a basis for any discussion......be it "general" or "casual". Facts are indeed.........Facts.
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Facts are indeed.........Facts.
But facts can be disagreed with...
... right?
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Nowhere did I say you can disagree with facts.

You guys are exhausting.

This is half the reason I got off of FB. I used to let this shit fuck my whole day up. You CANT have a casual conversation. It always turns into the most important discussion in the word...to people like RalliartX. I realized not a single thing you think about me or my views has any relevancy in my personal life. Not to my kids, my wife, my mortgage, nothing. Even more so now that Obama isn’t in office.

I’ll get back to my life now.

/discussion for me. Feel free wasting more of your day replying, fact checking, researching, etc though.
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Now that we got this Oprah nonsense out of the way, let's run Stacy Dash for 2020
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Did I say anything about economics during the obama era? Have I said that EVERYTHING obama did was wrong?
I was talking about how Liberalism during his era affected our traditional values to a point of almost no return.
Also, if the economy had tanked ths past year, would you had blamed obama's admin for it? Yeah, i dont think so.
Please tell me what traditional values liberalism changed.

I blame Obama's administration for many, many problems. Neoliberalism is not great for the country, nor the world (but you don't know what neoliberalism is, you'll just call him a commie)

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Damn, didn't know that, or anything about their shows for that matter. But for this reason, i think they should add more restrictions on everything for freeloaders, including their rights to vote. We shouldn't let good for nothing lazy mofos dictate where out country heads.
Please tell me where you got your political education. I'd also appreciate your employment background, IQ and location history. Something tells me you're woefully inexperienced in interacting with people of different backgrounds than yourself, have minimal education, minimal critical thinking skills & are generally filled with xenophobia as a result of crushing ignorance.

For someone who hates what "Liberalism has done to American values," fighting to strip Americans of their right to vote is the most un-American thing you can do.

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^if it wasn’t a popularity context Obama would have never been elected. Be carful what you wish for.
A political platform based on popular ideas that benefit more of the population led by a charming, intelligent person = bad, popularity contest.

Platform based on lies & hate that solely benefits the mega rich with a real estate trust fund boomer at its head = good popularity contest, in which the winner is somehow the one who is supported by less people

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Please, no more electing people with zero political background.

On the real though, if Trumpito survives his first term, he's more likely to win a second term. Especially more likely than he was his first.

People hate change and the unknown.

They rather stick with what they are familiar with.
He's not good for the economy, civil society nor the national security. But you're right, his base of uneducated white folks will always be there for him.

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Ummmm yeah he flip flops. He’s been a NY Democrat and friend of the Clintons for most of his adult life.
My friend is a libertarian. I am not. I am friends with him, I would not vote for him. It is shocking that one can be friends with someone they are not wholly in agreement with politically.

Also, Trump has been sued for racist behavior time & time again, he's never been a democrat per his actions.
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Now that we got this Oprah nonsense out of the way, let's run Stacy Dash for 2020
Stacy's nudes > Milania's nudes
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What had Oprah in 2020 deal with in the way this is beginning to look the aisle of hopeful athletes that turn a bad idea into a great ship?
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What had Oprah in 2020 deal with in the way this is beginning to look the aisle of hopeful athletes that turn a bad idea into a great ship?
Not to be offensive, but I literally have no idea how to decipher what has been written
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So if the teachings we've all had been in asia, Does that make us here for Oprah Winfrey
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On the road doin' ten toes, like my toes (like my toes)
You man thought I froze, I see a peng girl, then I pose (chilin')
If she ain't on it, I ghost, hah, look at your nose (check your nose fam)
You donut, nose long like garden hose
That's ok. More food, less cars. Maybe we can attach that for our delinquents?
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Our delinquents future win. More victory less equal, more participation, less sad. Someday we may bagel.
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Stacy Dash has always been one of my celeb crushes. So fucking hot.
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^^^So hot. But she's literally boner killingly stupid.
I can't be the only one noticing that she has started aging in dog years over the past few years, can I?
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No Phlip. its just you

She's still a 50+ year old after all.....and looks much better than 90% of the 50 year olds out there. Shoot, still looks better than some 30 year olds hahahahah (only half joking...........)
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I can't be the only one noticing that she has started aging in dog years over the past few years, can I?
She still looks good, but yeah, her bullshit is catching up to her fast. She's gonna look like the black Kellyanne Conway in no time.
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No Phlip. its just you

She's still a 50+ year old after all.....and looks much better than 90% of the 50 year olds out there. Shoot, still looks better than some 30 year olds hahahahah (only half joking...........)
Nah man, for a black celeb with money, she's starting to get haggard a little bit. Black ain't supposed to crack like that.

Shiddd, I ain't got no money but got mistaken for 25 the other day and my ass is damn near 40...lol
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