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Old 04-23-2020, 11:40 AM   #901
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Finally got my shifter and for some weird ass reason when in neutral pushing the shifter forward would be 5th gear and I have to go over to the left for 3rd. Sadly I?m almost positive it?s 5th too lol, I?ll figure it out once my driveshaft gets ordered


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Anyone using a twin disc clutch with the mazworx cd009 kit. What sleeve for the throw out bearing are you guys using ? I have a exedy twin disc. Not quite sure if the stock 30501-K0404 24mm S13/S14 works with it since it's a twin disc.id appreciate any feedback thanks
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So, I got a question for everyone. I'm about to order my adapter kid from my jz/cd swap.

Measurements:
a340 Bellhousing
14 3/8" exterior diameter (top to bottom), 4 3/4" depth; 13" inside diameter, input shaft is centered @ 6.5"

CD009
16" exterior diameter (top to bottom), 6 3/4" depth (to second rib where cut is made); 13 1/4" inside diameter, input shaft centered @ 6 5/8"

Assuming the no-cut adapter ring is 1/2" and the "cut kit" adapter flange is 1.5", the overall length would be shorter with the cut kit (1.5"), while also having about an inch extra ground clearance, and less firewall bashing.

Is it worth the extra money converting to an internal slave set-up needed for the cut kit since my CD is external with a new slave?
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Old 04-30-2020, 10:27 AM   #904
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Anyone using a twin disc clutch with the mazworx cd009 kit. What sleeve for the throw out bearing are you guys using ? I have a exedy twin disc. Not quite sure if the stock 30501-K0404 24mm S13/S14 works with it since it's a twin disc.id appreciate any feedback thanks
I've used an OsGiken TS2BD twin disc with the Mazworx kit. I used the throw out bearing and sleeve that OsGiken prescribes to use with their clutch. No clue about other brands.

For what it's worth you have to use a shorter sleeve with the OsG twin disc, the factory sr sleeve is too long.
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Anyone using a twin disc clutch with the mazworx cd009 kit. What sleeve for the throw out bearing are you guys using ? I have a exedy twin disc. Not quite sure if the stock 30501-K0404 24mm S13/S14 works with it since it's a twin disc.id appreciate any feedback thanks
ATS twin carbon carbon here with the Mazworx bell housing
Twin Disk TOB Sleeve
Standard S chassis fork (I was told my Maworx you cannot use the upgraded steel fork or pivot ball)
And twin disk TOB (part number Koyo/Nissan 30502-14601)

I think the TOB and sleeve are essentially universal across a majority of the most of the twin plates
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ATS twin carbon carbon here with the Mazworx bell housing
Twin Disk TOB Sleeve
Standard S chassis fork (I was told my Maworx you cannot use the upgraded steel fork or pivot ball)
And twin disk TOB (part number Koyo/Nissan 30502-14601)

I think the TOB and sleeve are essentially universal across a majority of the most of the twin plates
Have a # for the sleeve you are using or was it provided by ats ?

What about the nismo pivot ball . Looks identical as the stock sr one from a glance
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Yep. Give me a few let me look up my receipt,

As long as it the SR height pivot ball for the SR20DET 5 speed, the nismo one should work
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Yep. Give me a few let me look up my receipt,

As long as it the SR height pivot ball for the SR20DET 5 speed, the nismo one should work

Awesome thank you ! So far from what I've gathered for the mazworx bellhousing kit and exedy twin disc clutch I use the OEM sr20 24mm sleeve?
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The Mazworx bellhousing is designed around the SR bellhousing dimensions, so any clutch parts for the regular sr 5-speed trans are cross compatible and that's the parts you would use for aftermarket clutches.

I've posted all the bearing/sleeve info for ORC twin discs before, pretty sure its the same as OsGiken as well.:

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You coulda just asked me dude haha.

Both the 559 and 659 ORC clutch use their "Type A" release bearing that is 67.1mm diameter http://www.paramo.jp/vp3.php?ci=ogur...echnical_13_en .
It's available to order on Nengun supposedly: https://www.nengun.com/orc/release-bearing

The nissan part number for the bearing is 30502-14601, they use an oem nissan bearing from a pickup and can order it really anywhere.

As far as the sleeve, it SHOULD work with 16mm or 18mm sleeves, according to ORC documentation: http://www.ogura-racing.com/pdf/partslist.pdf

OEM part numbers:
16mm: 30501-02C74
18mm: 30501-S0284

(I'm 99% sure one is literally a 350z clutch bearing sleeve, same as the one I used with my OsGiken twin disc)
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Awesome thank you ! So far from what I've gathered for the mazworx bellhousing kit and exedy twin disc clutch I use the OEM sr20 24mm sleeve?
If that clutch is designed to use that sleeve, should probably contact Exedy to verify they don't require a specific sleeve for the twin disc.

Generally the twin disc stack height is taller than a single disc and requires a shorter sleeve. I'd be surprised if their twin plate is the same height as a single.
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So yea contacted exedy and they said it uses the stock oem sleeve from an sr20det which would be a 24mm sleeve and just pair it with thier tob provided . Def would have though it would of been a shorter one like said since it's for a twin disc . Looks like I'll have to mock it up and see how everything is lining up

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Guys I?m running Redline MT-85 fluid and I get some nasty shifts when the trans is cold but it shifts great once it finally warms up. You guys have the same experience? What?s everyone using?

Also with a the brand new trans do you guys change the fluid after a few miles or nah?


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Which is also the JDM S14 & S15 ratio.
S15 6spd maybe but the 5spds never had that low of gearing in the differential.
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Guys I?m running Redline MT-85 fluid and I get some nasty shifts when the trans is cold but it shifts great once it finally warms up. You guys have the same experience? What?s everyone using?

Also with a the brand new trans do you guys change the fluid after a few miles or nah?


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Switch to amsoil. Helped my cd a lot back in the day in my Z.
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Switch to amsoil. Helped my cd a lot back in the day in my Z.
Word ill have to give it a shot. Thanks!
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S15 6spd maybe but the 5spds never had that low of gearing in the differential.
S14 AND S15 turbo models had 3.69 final drive. S13 N/A and turbo, and S14 & S15 N/A had 4.08 final drive.

Source: factory service manuals, verified with JDM differentials. My S14 5spd 3rd is long af, gets me to 80-90 ish.
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Switch to amsoil. Helped my cd a lot back in the day in my Z.
Wild, I didn't like Amsoil in my G35. Was notchy in the winter when cold, Redline MT85 has been great for me.

I know some of the older trans pre-CD009 were notchy simply due to the unrevised syncro setup on those (double cone vs triple cone in CD009). A lot of people just call any Z33 trans a CD009 not realizing the early models kinda sucked.

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Wild, I didn't like Amsoil in my G35. Was notchy in the winter when cold, Redline MT85 has been great for me.

I know some of the older trans pre-CD009 were notchy simply due to the unrevised syndro setup on those (double cone vs triple cone in CD009). A lot of people just call any Z33 trans a CD009 not realizing the early models kinda sucked.
We're in Florida not Maryland. Mike run the amsoil trust me on this.
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We're in Florida not Maryland. Mike run the amsoil trust me on this.
Link to which formulation or details to which Amsoil gear oil you used?
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Link to which formulation or details to which Amsoil gear oil you used?
Their Manual Transmission Lube 75W-90 is GL4 formulated.
https://www.amsoil.com/p/manual-tran...be-75w-90-mtg/
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S14 AND S15 turbo models had 3.69 final drive. S13 N/A and turbo, and S14 & S15 N/A had 4.08 final drive.

Source: factory service manuals, verified with JDM differentials. My S14 5spd 3rd is long af, gets me to 80-90 ish.
So you're telling me, if I buy a JDM S14 SR20DET differential, it will have a 3.69 gear ratio?
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So you're telling me, if I buy a JDM S14 SR20DET differential, it will have a 3.69 gear ratio?
That's exactly what I'm telling you.

S14 FSM:


S15 FSM:
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That's exactly what I'm telling you.

S14 FSM:


S15 FSM:


Would it be possible to swap that ring gear into an S13 diff?


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Would it be possible to swap that ring gear into an S13 diff?
Yes, ring gear & pinion swaps are pretty common on R200 diffs. You can also use the whole pumpkin and just swap the rear cover to use it in an S13.
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Yes, ring gear & pinion swaps are pretty common on R200 diffs. You can also use the whole pumpkin and just swap the rear cover to use it in an S13.


Good to know. I?ve got a Kaaz 2 way in mine currently that I don?t want to lose. Just want better gearing for highway cruising


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