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ka-titties · 07-29-2016, 06:39 AM

You're going to want to recoat that hardware in the nickel or cadmium plating that they had on them or else that hardware is going to rust to shit on your pretty calipers!

Mister.E · 07-29-2016, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ka-titties

You're going to want to recoat that hardware in the nickel or cadmium plating that they had on them or else that hardware is going to rust to shit on your pretty calipers!

Didn't think about that earlier. Probably just gonna buy some new bolts at Home Depot later.

soundboy · 08-01-2016, 04:58 PM

Most excellent, whats ur plans for fuel setup?

Mister.E · 08-01-2016, 06:01 PM

Nothing crazy, I'm going to give the Walbro 400 that I have a chance and see how it goes. It will run from the pump to some standard fuel hose down to the factory lines that I'm hoping to relocate. The ends of the lines will terminate with AN fittings, one line (return) going up to the Aeromotive AFPR and the other line (feed) going into a GM fuel filter with AN adapters and out to the fuel rail. I'm running the factory fuel rail with SARD 650cc drop-ins that I bought from RHDjapan.

If I run into issues I will start with a surge tank. If anything further is required it would be a change of the fuel rail and injectors. I'm not looking for huge numbers with this build, the car will be tuned on 91 pump. I want the ability to drive the car wherever I'd like in this area and not have to worry about finding corn or paying $8.00/gallon at exclusive stations for 100 octane. This will not be a car that I plan on storing in the garage, I'm a dickhead and I want to show it off. [emoji57] Seriously though, I'm replacing damn near every major component on the car, so I plan to drive the shit out of it until the chassis gives up. Motors can always be rebuilt/replaced, so the chassis is the only thing I can think of that can give up and put the car in it's grave. I'm putting my heart & soul into this build and it's not something that I think will ever leave my possession.

/weird ass tangent

Sorry for the rant but I have really fallen in love with this POS the more I've put work into it. This summer has been so brutal and I haven't had any chances to work on the car due to the excessive heat; it's been depressing to say the least. I feel like I'm not too far off from starting it, but there is still a lot of stuff that needs to be done.

Mister.E · 08-01-2016, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJTTon

I forgot that was part of the car
But great color choice nonetheless, did you do it yourself?

Sorry I missed this earlier, but no, I did not do the coating. This is another item I've added to the list of things I'd love to learn to do.

DJTTon · 08-01-2016, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mister.E

Sorry I missed this earlier, but no, I did not do the coating. This is another item I've added to the list of things I'd love to learn to do.

One of mine is to learn to weld in general.

Mister.E · 08-01-2016, 08:29 PM

That's my number one. I have to finish this car first though.

Mister.E · 08-07-2016, 11:17 AM

So everything I ordered to complete my brakes has been delivered.

Things to note when rebuilding your calipers to this extent:

If you are replacing the bolts that hold the halves together it can be extremely frustrating. They are a special type of bolt called metric Japanese Industry Standard (JIS) bolts. When talking about these specific bolts JIS standard calls for a 14mm head on an M10x1.25 whereas the standard M10x1.25 has a 17mm head. This is very important since there isn't really any room on the caliper for a 17mm head to fit.

The rear caliper require 65mm bolts and one M10 washer with a small outside diameter (OD). This is a size that's readily available. The part info for the bolts I used is pictured below.

The front calls for 75mm bolts for the 30mm calipers, but I could not find that length anywhere. I decided that I would buy the 80 mm bolts and cut them down to 75mm if they were too long. They ended up fitting perfectly with one M10 small OD washer and there was still a little thread in the caliper to spare.

Here are the washers that I used. They fit perfectly in the washer grooves on the calipers. I got these at Home Depot.

For the front calipers I ended up getting the seal kit from Z1 Motorsports since it comes with the little o-rings that go in between the caliper halves. The rear seal kit is usually considerably harder to find but I ended up getting a Centric seal kit from Rock Auto. To my surprise, the Centric kit also came with the o-rings for the rear halves as well. I have NEVER seen this happen so here here is the part info for that seal kit. Make sure you buy two, each kit is for a single caliper.

I ended up torquing the bolts on the front calipers to 55ft•lb and did 45ft•lb on the rears since they're aluminum.

I won't go through seal replacement since that is pretty basic, but here is the final product. I think it turned out really well, it's exactly what I pictured in my head.

Mister.E · 08-08-2016, 09:12 AM

So here is where I leave you today. The calipers are fully assembled and loaded with pads. I reassembled the brake system in the rear and got everything mounted up to the GKtech rear knuckles. I am very pleased with the end results and can't wait to get everything on the car. I still need to trim the brake dust shield a little, though, to make room for the rear calipers.

Fred Allen Burge · 08-08-2016, 10:25 AM

Very grateful for the bolt info good sir! I snapped one of my front bolts (siezed into the caliper) and wasn't sure what I needed for a replacement so you just saved me a ton of time!

Mister.E · 08-08-2016, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Allen Burge

Very grateful for the bolt info good sir! I snapped one of my front bolts (siezed into the caliper) and wasn't sure what I needed for a replacement so you just saved me a ton of time!

No problem man. It took me quite some time to get everything right before I placed my order. I'm glad the info can help you out, that is precisely why I posted it.

If anyone is using 26mm front calipers, I would recommend buying 70mm bolts.

Fred Allen Burge · 08-09-2016, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister.E

No problem man. It took me quite some time to get everything right before I placed my order. I'm glad the info can help you out, that is precisely why I posted it.

If anyone is using 26mm front calipers, I would recommend buying 70mm bolts.

Oddly when I got back to my shop yesterday I measured the bolts that came out of my front calipers and they were right at 100mm long on one caliper and about 96mm long on the other caliper. Both calipers are the 30mm versions (but I can tell they came out of different cars/years which I guess explains the 96mm and 100mm difference.) But the point is neither were 75mm, not sure why. Could be because my fronts are aluminum and I think yours are iron right? May be a design difference there.

Mister.E · 08-09-2016, 09:21 AM

Yes mine are iron. That's interesting that the bolt lengths are that much different.

OBEEWON · 08-09-2016, 12:36 PM

Rebuilding 4 pot brakes is fun. Those came out good. I should have used new hardware on mine.

Mister.E · 08-09-2016, 01:57 PM

I do get a bit of enjoyment out of it, but it can be a huge pain in the ass at the same time. Luckily the fronts were still pretty clean from the last time that they were powder coated. The first time I had to take them apart took some serious finesse with an air compressor to get the pistons out.

Mister.E · 08-13-2016, 10:15 PM

Ayyyyy lmao [emoji89][emoji41]

DJTTon · 08-14-2016, 09:09 AM

Haha, your emojis are on point

tricky_ab · 08-14-2016, 04:36 PM

I like those rims... ALL OF THEM!

Mister.E · 08-14-2016, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tricky_ab

I like those rims... ALL OF THEM!

Thanks man. Only the BRW03's and KF's are mine.

Mister.E · 08-30-2016, 03:11 PM

In my quest to keep rust to a minimum, I had the rotors powder coated as well. I think it turned out nice, but if I did everything over again I'd probably buy boated rotors.

I got everything bolted up and realized that there was a problem. The calipers were rubbing the rotors for some reason.

I wanted a glamour shot so I took this pic prior to troubleshooting the brake issues.

After a ton of wasted time, I figured out that there weren't any problems with my parts, the GKtech front knuckles are warped. I measured it and the distance between the mounting points and the rotor differ by about 2mm. I have confirmed that the knuckles were most likely taken out of the jig too early and have warped.

Marks where powder coat was damaged.

Here is where I spaced the caliper with a washer in the area that I thought was a problem. This allowed the rotor to move a bit more freely and operate more like it should. After speaking with GKtech, they said that a spacer usually solves the problem (this is a known issue with some knuckles). This is NOT a viable solution to me for paying for a product and receiving something defective. I am still waiting for further communication on their part to determine the next course of action. Their customer service has always been top notch so I don't think there will be any problems.

The rear GKtech knuckles haven't posed any problems yet, so after trimming the brake shield I was able to get everything put together.

DJTTon · 08-30-2016, 07:10 PM

I want to see wheels on the rear!!!

EnvisionMore · 08-31-2016, 09:12 AM

Wheels look good! Almost like the C5 Z06 wheels. Keep up the good work, looking forward to more updates.

JIMB0 · 09-01-2016, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnvisionMore

Almost like the C5 Z06 wheels.

i died laughing at this

tricky_ab · 09-01-2016, 04:34 PM

Hopefully they sort out those front knuckles for you. This should be a "normal" issue that should be sorted with spacers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIMB0

i died laughing at this

RIP Jimmy

Mister.E · 09-01-2016, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tricky_ab

This should be a "normal" issue that should be sorted with spacers.

You think the spacers are legit? Or is this sarcasm? It seems really sketchy to me.

tricky_ab · 09-02-2016, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister.E

You think the spacers are legit? Or is this sarcasm? It seems really sketchy to me.

No way, this is sketchy as fuck. I wouldn't recommend that to OP at all. I actually meant "shouldn't" and that's why I said hopefully they can sort that out.

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stopbruh · 09-07-2016, 06:51 AM

awesome build! and thank you for your service! i'm also currently station in Misawa AB and i've picked up a 91' S13 Silvia.

Mister.E · 09-07-2016, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stopbruh

awesome build! and thank you for your service! i'm also currently station in Misawa AB and i've picked up a 91' S13 Silvia.

Nice man! I really do miss that place. Lots of good times were had with friends.

_poo40 · 02-26-2018, 11:40 AM

Amazingly inspiring story and great details. I appreciate the time you took out to post something like this and share your personal story. I recently purchased a 95 240 myself and am currently (at this very moment actually) piecing together a little build sheet with a friend who has an aluminum LS2 built for his S13 hatch. Can't wait to do something like this myself. Thank you so much. ALSO, feel free to message me if you decide to part with any of your beloved Work's LOL.

Mister.E · 05-14-2018, 03:43 PM

Man, it looks like I need to drop some updates in here. Nothing too worthwhile, though, I've had a lot of hold-backs since the last post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by _poo40

ALSO, feel free to message me if you decide to part with any of your beloved Work's LOL.

08-01-2016, 06:01 PM	#124
Mister.E Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 39 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	Nothing crazy, I'm going to give the Walbro 400 that I have a chance and see how it goes. It will run from the pump to some standard fuel hose down to the factory lines that I'm hoping to relocate. The ends of the lines will terminate with AN fittings, one line (return) going up to the Aeromotive AFPR and the other line (feed) going into a GM fuel filter with AN adapters and out to the fuel rail. I'm running the factory fuel rail with SARD 650cc drop-ins that I bought from RHDjapan. If I run into issues I will start with a surge tank. If anything further is required it would be a change of the fuel rail and injectors. I'm not looking for huge numbers with this build, the car will be tuned on 91 pump. I want the ability to drive the car wherever I'd like in this area and not have to worry about finding corn or paying $8.00/gallon at exclusive stations for 100 octane. This will not be a car that I plan on storing in the garage, I'm a dickhead and I want to show it off. [emoji57] Seriously though, I'm replacing damn near every major component on the car, so I plan to drive the shit out of it until the chassis gives up. Motors can always be rebuilt/replaced, so the chassis is the only thing I can think of that can give up and put the car in it's grave. I'm putting my heart & soul into this build and it's not something that I think will ever leave my possession. /weird ass tangent Sorry for the rant but I have really fallen in love with this POS the more I've put work into it. This summer has been so brutal and I haven't had any chances to work on the car due to the excessive heat; it's been depressing to say the least. I feel like I'm not too far off from starting it, but there is still a lot of stuff that needs to be done. __________________ : @e_lemonation

08-01-2016, 08:29 PM	#127
Mister.E Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 39 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	That's my number one. I have to finish this car first though. __________________ : @e_lemonation

08-07-2016, 11:17 AM	#128
Mister.E Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 39 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	E's '95 S14 Build - The true "forever" build So everything I ordered to complete my brakes has been delivered. Things to note when rebuilding your calipers to this extent: If you are replacing the bolts that hold the halves together it can be extremely frustrating. They are a special type of bolt called metric Japanese Industry Standard (JIS) bolts. When talking about these specific bolts JIS standard calls for a 14mm head on an M10x1.25 whereas the standard M10x1.25 has a 17mm head. This is very important since there isn't really any room on the caliper for a 17mm head to fit. The rear caliper require 65mm bolts and one M10 washer with a small outside diameter (OD). This is a size that's readily available. The part info for the bolts I used is pictured below. The front calls for 75mm bolts for the 30mm calipers, but I could not find that length anywhere. I decided that I would buy the 80 mm bolts and cut them down to 75mm if they were too long. They ended up fitting perfectly with one M10 small OD washer and there was still a little thread in the caliper to spare. Here are the washers that I used. They fit perfectly in the washer grooves on the calipers. I got these at Home Depot. For the front calipers I ended up getting the seal kit from Z1 Motorsports since it comes with the little o-rings that go in between the caliper halves. The rear seal kit is usually considerably harder to find but I ended up getting a Centric seal kit from Rock Auto. To my surprise, the Centric kit also came with the o-rings for the rear halves as well. I have NEVER seen this happen so here here is the part info for that seal kit. Make sure you buy two, each kit is for a single caliper. I ended up torquing the bolts on the front calipers to 55ft•lb and did 45ft•lb on the rears since they're aluminum. I won't go through seal replacement since that is pretty basic, but here is the final product. I think it turned out really well, it's exactly what I pictured in my head. __________________ : @e_lemonation

08-08-2016, 09:12 AM	#129
Mister.E Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 39 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	So here is where I leave you today. The calipers are fully assembled and loaded with pads. I reassembled the brake system in the rear and got everything mounted up to the GKtech rear knuckles. I am very pleased with the end results and can't wait to get everything on the car. I still need to trim the brake dust shield a little, though, to make room for the rear calipers. __________________ : @e_lemonation

08-08-2016, 10:25 AM	#130
Fred Allen Burge Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri Age: 44 Posts: 524 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Very grateful for the bolt info good sir! I snapped one of my front bolts (siezed into the caliper) and wasn't sure what I needed for a replacement so you just saved me a ton of time! __________________ Silvia, built 5.3 turbo, 4l80e, 9.8@142

07-29-2016, 06:39 AM	#121
ka-titties Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Near that guy you know Posts: 1,561 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	You're going to want to recoat that hardware in the nickel or cadmium plating that they had on them or else that hardware is going to rust to shit on your pretty calipers!

08-01-2016, 04:58 PM	#123
soundboy Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: trinidad Age: 43 Posts: 320 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Most excellent, whats ur plans for fuel setup?

08-09-2016, 09:21 AM	#133
Mister.E Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 39 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	Yes mine are iron. That's interesting that the bolt lengths are that much different. __________________ : @e_lemonation

08-09-2016, 12:36 PM	#134
OBEEWON Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Posts: 6,053 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Rebuilding 4 pot brakes is fun. Those came out good. I should have used new hardware on mine. __________________

08-09-2016, 01:57 PM	#135
Mister.E Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 39 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	I do get a bit of enjoyment out of it, but it can be a huge pain in the ass at the same time. Luckily the fronts were still pretty clean from the last time that they were powder coated. The first time I had to take them apart took some serious finesse with an air compressor to get the pistons out. __________________ : @e_lemonation

08-13-2016, 10:15 PM	#136
Mister.E Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 39 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	Ayyyyy lmao [emoji89][emoji41] __________________ : @e_lemonation

08-14-2016, 09:09 AM	#137
DJTTon Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Where the bad guys are Posts: 886 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Haha, your emojis are on point

08-14-2016, 04:36 PM	#138
tricky_ab Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It's dark, and hell is hot! Posts: 9,414 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	I like those rims... ALL OF THEM! __________________ Instagram Back for round two... 4 doors this time around...

08-30-2016, 03:11 PM	#140
Mister.E Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Las Vegas Age: 39 Posts: 4,590 Trader Rating: (53) Feedback Score: 53 reviews	In my quest to keep rust to a minimum, I had the rotors powder coated as well. I think it turned out nice, but if I did everything over again I'd probably buy boated rotors. I got everything bolted up and realized that there was a problem. The calipers were rubbing the rotors for some reason. I wanted a glamour shot so I took this pic prior to troubleshooting the brake issues. After a ton of wasted time, I figured out that there weren't any problems with my parts, the GKtech front knuckles are warped. I measured it and the distance between the mounting points and the rotor differ by about 2mm. I have confirmed that the knuckles were most likely taken out of the jig too early and have warped. Marks where powder coat was damaged. Here is where I spaced the caliper with a washer in the area that I thought was a problem. This allowed the rotor to move a bit more freely and operate more like it should. After speaking with GKtech, they said that a spacer usually solves the problem (this is a known issue with some knuckles). This is NOT a viable solution to me for paying for a product and receiving something defective. I am still waiting for further communication on their part to determine the next course of action. Their customer service has always been top notch so I don't think there will be any problems. The rear GKtech knuckles haven't posed any problems yet, so after trimming the brake shield I was able to get everything put together. __________________ : @e_lemonation

08-30-2016, 07:10 PM	#141
DJTTon Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Where the bad guys are Posts: 886 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I want to see wheels on the rear!!!

08-31-2016, 09:12 AM	#142
EnvisionMore Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 61 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wheels look good! Almost like the C5 Z06 wheels. Keep up the good work, looking forward to more updates.

09-07-2016, 06:51 AM	#147
stopbruh Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: PNW Age: 28 Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	awesome build! and thank you for your service! i'm also currently station in Misawa AB and i've picked up a 91' S13 Silvia.

02-26-2018, 11:40 AM	#149
_poo40 Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 26 Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Amazingly inspiring story and great details. I appreciate the time you took out to post something like this and share your personal story. I recently purchased a 95 240 myself and am currently (at this very moment actually) piecing together a little build sheet with a friend who has an aluminum LS2 built for his S13 hatch. Can't wait to do something like this myself. Thank you so much. ALSO, feel free to message me if you decide to part with any of your beloved Work's LOL.