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gotta240 · 05-10-2006, 06:59 PM

Ok...hold your flaming horses!!!! I'm joking about actually needing them, but i do have a few questions...

1. Do you have any advice on getting a new inner boot on easily... I spent 40 minuts trying to get the damn boot over the rack!! DAMN i'm frustrated.

2. I installed my spl tie rods(kick ass parts and service), but i have one worry

I looked in the manual (AFTERWORDS OF COURSE!) and it said to use a "locking grease" on the inner rod threads... I didn't....Should i dissasemble, and re-install with a locking grease? I figure as long as the outer rod stays locked, nothing will come loose, but i need another opinion... thanks.

EchoOfSilence · 05-10-2006, 07:10 PM

if the inner tie rod twists, you'll get toe change. you better put some locktite on that.

gotta240 · 05-10-2006, 07:12 PM

C R A P. So tear it all apart i suppose???!!! GRRRRRR.

DJPimpFlex · 05-10-2006, 07:37 PM

yea you NEED those loctiteed. You remember when you took off the OEM ones and there was those thingys that you needed to bend out of the way, well those held it on origionally. Now that you have the spacers in you cant use those so they will eventually fall out or something. They take a lot of vibration from the wheels directally, so I wouldnt chance it. As far as the boots go, I dont know whats wrong with your method of putting them on. I didnt have any problems, only took like 2 seconds.

!Zar! · 05-10-2006, 07:48 PM

Blue thread lock, and to put the boots on, you have to slide them over before you put the outters back in.

slideways2004 · 05-10-2006, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by !Zar!

Blue thread lock, and to put the boots on, you have to slide them over before you put the outters back in.

+1. don't try to put them after you installed everything. lol

Neejay · 05-10-2006, 09:23 PM

Do a search, and you'll find the thread that I had on tie rods. Are you using spacers or not? You should be alright just using the locking plate. And the boots are easy to put on. (just make sure to do it BEFORE putting the tie rod end on

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420sx · 05-10-2006, 09:27 PM

theres a reason they come like that factory. always good to consult a manual, smart move on your part - people that wrote it definately know whats going on (ok, well, sometimes)

dct223 · 05-10-2006, 09:35 PM

i think the diameter of the boots are different... try switching sides... should go on pretty easy... try some WD40 to have them slip on easier also 2 small skrew drivers work well if your still having trouble.. one can be used to hold the boot on one side.. the other to stretch it over the rack.

gotta240 · 05-10-2006, 09:41 PM

yeah...i'm starting to think that there are two different diameter boots, and i have two rights!!! DOH!

After lots of hassle, and numerous curse words, i got it on....

thanks guys!

projectRDM · 05-11-2006, 08:17 AM

Nope, boots are identical. Same part number for left and right. Now you may have an S13 and S14 boot, since the S14 tie rod is a larger diameter so is the boot opening, an S13 boot would be a little more work to slide on an S14 rod. Though not four hours of work.

Neejay · 05-11-2006, 08:31 AM

Yeah, since I was going to replace them anyway, I made sure I bought the S14 boots. And yes, they are identical.

05-10-2006, 06:59 PM	#1
gotta240 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: so cal Posts: 3,496 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	Do i really need INNER tie rod dust boots?(aka rack boots) Ok...hold your flaming horses!!!! I'm joking about actually needing them, but i do have a few questions... 1. Do you have any advice on getting a new inner boot on easily... I spent 40 minuts trying to get the damn boot over the rack!! DAMN i'm frustrated. 2. I installed my spl tie rods(kick ass parts and service), but i have one worry I looked in the manual (AFTERWORDS OF COURSE!) and it said to use a "locking grease" on the inner rod threads... I didn't....Should i dissasemble, and re-install with a locking grease? I figure as long as the outer rod stays locked, nothing will come loose, but i need another opinion... thanks.

05-10-2006, 07:10 PM	#2
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	if the inner tie rod twists, you'll get toe change. you better put some locktite on that. __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

05-10-2006, 07:37 PM	#4
DJPimpFlex Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Age: 38 Posts: 6,158 Trader Rating: (115) Rides Gallery: DJPimpFlex Feedback Score: 115 reviews	yea you NEED those loctiteed. You remember when you took off the OEM ones and there was those thingys that you needed to bend out of the way, well those held it on origionally. Now that you have the spacers in you cant use those so they will eventually fall out or something. They take a lot of vibration from the wheels directally, so I wouldnt chance it. As far as the boots go, I dont know whats wrong with your method of putting them on. I didnt have any problems, only took like 2 seconds. __________________

05-10-2006, 07:48 PM	#5
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Blue thread lock, and to put the boots on, you have to slide them over before you put the outters back in. __________________

05-10-2006, 09:27 PM	#8
420sx Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Texas Age: 41 Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: 420sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	theres a reason they come like that factory. always good to consult a manual, smart move on your part - people that wrote it definately know whats going on (ok, well, sometimes) __________________ hydropgrahics! ls1......

05-10-2006, 07:12 PM	#3
gotta240 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: so cal Posts: 3,496 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	C R A P. So tear it all apart i suppose???!!! GRRRRRR.

05-10-2006, 09:23 PM	#7
Neejay Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: lol Age: 38 Posts: 2,586 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Neejay Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Do a search, and you'll find the thread that I had on tie rods. Are you using spacers or not? You should be alright just using the locking plate. And the boots are easy to put on. (just make sure to do it BEFORE putting the tie rod end on )

05-10-2006, 09:35 PM	#9
dct223 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: hella NORCAL! Age: 38 Posts: 1,664 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	i think the diameter of the boots are different... try switching sides... should go on pretty easy... try some WD40 to have them slip on easier also 2 small skrew drivers work well if your still having trouble.. one can be used to hold the boot on one side.. the other to stretch it over the rack. __________________ Sfourteen

05-10-2006, 09:41 PM	#10
gotta240 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: so cal Posts: 3,496 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	yeah...i'm starting to think that there are two different diameter boots, and i have two rights!!! DOH! After lots of hassle, and numerous curse words, i got it on.... thanks guys!

05-11-2006, 08:17 AM	#11
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 50 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Nope, boots are identical. Same part number for left and right. Now you may have an S13 and S14 boot, since the S14 tie rod is a larger diameter so is the boot opening, an S13 boot would be a little more work to slide on an S14 rod. Though not four hours of work.

05-11-2006, 08:31 AM	#12
Neejay Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: lol Age: 38 Posts: 2,586 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Neejay Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Yeah, since I was going to replace them anyway, I made sure I bought the S14 boots. And yes, they are identical.