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Old 02-04-2012, 07:36 PM   #31
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Okay so time for a little update. Got the turbo mocked up. Everything fit together quite well and looks great. I'm still waiting for my wastegate to arrive, i have a little over 4" to the strut tower. The new Tial vmr wastegate is a little smaller than their previous version so hopefully everything fits! Next step is to install the wastegate and weld up a new 3" intake and dump tube at my shop.





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Old 02-05-2012, 10:34 AM   #33
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I bought the turbo from atp. It's about 1600 plus shipping. Shipping was around 40 for me. Plus 400 for the external gate. Might need some other miscellaneous stuff depending on your current set up.
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I'm on a 2871 external set up. Only thing I would need to change is the piping I think.

Is it really good for nearly 40psi? What's the power output supposed to be do you know?
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Okay, so i got my wastegate today, took it to my shop and went to bolt it up. Regretfully it did not fit. The top of the gate hit the strut tower and still needed a good 1/2 inch to clear, not to mention the banjo bolt for the top vent. So i decided to fab up my own elbow. After a few hours of cutting and welding i had it all where i thought it would work best. Pretty bummed that everything didnt bolt up to the housing, but still happy with the end result.





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I'm on a 2871 external set up. Only thing I would need to change is the piping I think.

Is it really good for nearly 40psi? What's the power output supposed to be do you know?
The Compressor map shows 40+ lbs/min of air flow. Not real sure of the power out put of the turbo, but hopefully we will all see real soon.
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You should've known that it wasn't going to fit in-between the motor/strut tower, however I do like your final placement. How close is it to the BMC/booster? When are you going to get tuned?
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I'm on a 2871 external set up. Only thing I would need to change is the piping I think.

Is it really good for nearly 40psi? What's the power output supposed to be do you know?
The gtx2867r will bolt in place of your current chra, you can keep the same exhaust housing/downpipe etc. The new compressor housing should be identically placed as the 71r's so your intercooler piping should bolt on in the same position. Additionally the turbo's inlet is the same 3" opening size. Unless you've opted for different housings you should be able to just swap the chra and compressor housing and go.

Compressor map shows this turbo is good for peak of 2.7 bar (39psi) but will bleed back down to 2.5bar (36psi) towards the top of the map. Depending how well your engine flows , you should be able to get a safe 30-35psi out of this turbo without overspinning it.

Additionally you can get this turbo for 1283.49 shipped from top speed. http://www.topspeedparts.com/Garrett...ger-gtx28.html
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Do they make a 5 bolt turbine housing without the external flange and just a blocked off internal?

I want this turbo so bad lol
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Do they make a 5 bolt turbine housing without the external flange and just a blocked off internal?

I want this turbo so bad lol
Isn't that how your 2871 is set up? If it's true that one could just switch turbine housings, you could just get the turbo with no turbine housing and swap yours on.

Garrett GTX2867R Dual Ball Bearing Turbo - less turbine housing : atpturbo.com
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My 2871 internal is welded shut.

I don't want to switch housings I want to straight up sell the 2871 and get the gtx lol
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this is awesome.. im excited to see what kind of numbers your putting down..

i wonder if that exhaust housing is efficient or would be better flow with a wastegate on the manifold..

and i would like this a whole lot more if you had a tomei or full race style manifold
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Yeah i wish i had either of those. But i decided to focus my money on other things. I figure since im a welder i can prob weld the stainless if it cracks any way.
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The gtx2867r will bolt in place of your current chra, you can keep the same exhaust housing/downpipe etc. The new compressor housing should be identically placed as the 71r's so your intercooler piping should bolt on in the same position. Additionally the turbo's inlet is the same 3" opening size. Unless you've opted for different housings you should be able to just swap the chra and compressor housing and go.

Compressor map shows this turbo is good for peak of 2.7 bar (39psi) but will bleed back down to 2.5bar (36psi) towards the top of the map. Depending how well your engine flows , you should be able to get a safe 30-35psi out of this turbo without overspinning it.

Additionally you can get this turbo for 1283.49 shipped from top speed. Garrett GTX2867 Billet Wheel Turbocharger - New GTX Series Turbo Avaliable Now

Where the heck did you pull this outta your ass from? The GTX2876 will NOT bolt into a GT2871R.... The housings are not interchangeable cause the compressor wheel is different. Already checked with someone from Garrett....
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Can't wait to see some actual numbers!

We have a group buy going on these on another site (will be adding it here as soon as they get back to us) as we are also very excited about this turbo. Better spool than the 2871r with the similar power output potential.
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Interesting placement with the external gate on the pre flanged ATP housing, at least we all know now definitivly that it will not fit without some well placed fabrication. I'm curious as to how to how close it is the steering shaft.

Personally, I'm still a fan of how we have JPC put them atop the manifold (which we'll be doing a different setup with the 2 bolt flanged turbos soon) as the MVS is no where near the BMC that way, and out of the way of everything.


COol stuff though. When are your planned power pulls? My entire turbo setup is off my car, and dare I say, awaiting your results to see which way I go.

However if you're far out, I'll probably just follow through my gut and get one too...I'm hoping to have it back on the dyno by mid march if I do go through with it
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Where the heck did you pull this outta your ass from? The GTX2876 will NOT bolt into a GT2871R.... The housings are not interchangeable cause the compressor wheel is different. Already checked with someone from Garrett....
Of course the compressor hsg is different, it's a different wheel and trim. But the turbine housing and wheel IS the exact same between the turbos. Hence why the GTX2867R is sold without a turbine hsg.

Get your facts straight before acting like an arse...
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Of course the compressor hsg is different, it's a different wheel and trim. But the turbine housing and wheel IS the exact same between the turbos. Hence why the GTX2867R is sold without a turbine hsg.

Get your facts straight before acting like an arse...
I did misread his post, my bad... he was just talking about the exhaust housing, but doesn't the exhaust housing have a twin scroll option vs your standard gt2871R standard housing?
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So this turbo doesn't come with the turbine housing and you have to buy it separate?
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So this turbo doesn't come with the turbine housing and you have to buy it separate?
Apparently not for 1200 bux....
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So this turbo doesn't come with the turbine housing and you have to buy it separate?
You can purchase it with and without the turbine housing. Your old 2871R housing will work with it....
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But then who am I going to sell a 2872 with no turbine housing to? Lol

I have to get this turbo now. I just need it. I gotta look for turbine housings with just the internal blocked off and not a waste gate connection.
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But then who am I going to sell a 2872 with no turbine housing to? Lol

I have to get this turbo now. I just need it. I gotta look for turbine housings with just the internal blocked off and not a waste gate connection.
I actually have a 2871R .86 AR housing.... It has a hairline crack on where the wastegate is... kinda weird and I can take a pic if you interested in using it.
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So this turbo doesn't come with the turbine housing and you have to buy it separate?
You do need to buy a housing separate. You can also use the TiAl T25/T28 v-band housing with this.

If you're primarily spool focused I'd go with the .64 A/R and .86 A/R if you want more top-end.
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I actually have a 2871R .86 AR housing.... It has a hairline crack on where the wastegate is... kinda weird and I can take a pic if you interested in using it.
I said I don't need one with a waste hate attachment. Lol. I already have a external set up.

I would love to go v band turbine but I would have to get a new downpipe and I fancy my PBM Flex Cobra.
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Interesting placement with the external gate on the pre flanged ATP housing, at least we all know now definitivly that it will not fit without some well placed fabrication. I'm curious as to how to how close it is the steering shaft.

Personally, I'm still a fan of how we have JPC put them atop the manifold (which we'll be doing a different setup with the 2 bolt flanged turbos soon) as the MVS is no where near the BMC that way, and out of the way of everything.


COol stuff though. When are your planned power pulls? My entire turbo setup is off my car, and dare I say, awaiting your results to see which way I go.

However if you're far out, I'll probably just follow through my gut and get one too...I'm hoping to have it back on the dyno by mid march if I do go through with it
If everything goes as planned I am hoping to have it on a dyno by the end of next week. Also, are you speaking of the stock cast manifold that they are attaching the wastegate to? If so do you know the process they are using to attach? I just welded one up for an rb motor, and used a stainless tube on the top of the mani. It was my first time working with cast but it seemed to work well. I do know that cast isnt the easiest to attach a disssimilar metal to, and if not done with the right material can can lead to cracks. I used 99ni rod to weld it up. Just looking for more info on working with these materials, thanks.
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Where are you llocated in CA? What shop is doing the install?
Im in Chino ca. But my car is at our welding shop in Orange. Ive been doing all my own work so far. Its been a fun project. If any one ever needs anything hit me up.
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