Rennsport: The German Car thread

[ripnbst]

C63 AMG Benz are almost reasonably priced now. The last big V8's before everyone went to forced induction. Damn they sound sweet.

[racebread240sx]

We have a new c63 507 edition sitting in the shop room. Love that thing
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[simmode1]

[simmode1]

Yeah, soooo ummmm.... This used to be a 986. Now it's got a twin turbo v8:

http://www.speedhunters.com/2014/09/...rsche-boxster/

[gearhead55]

Originally Posted by simmode1

Yeah, soooo ummmm.... This used to be a 986. Now it's got a twin turbo v8:
http://www.speedhunters.com/2014/09/...rsche-boxster/

holy fucknuggets

[Corbic]

[Corbic]

http://www.speedhunters.com/2014/02/sarto-racing-clk/




How much was a 5.8 V12 again!??


$4,800 obo,

[Corbic]

[Corbic]

http://www.stancenation.com/2014/06/...edes-benz-clk/

[simmode1]

Sooo, I started driving a RUF 3400S in Gran Turismo because of this thread. Dear god. Can't believe how badly it embarasses turbo MR2's. Glad this thread happened before I bought an SW20 in real life.

[simmode1]

Been looking at more 986 aero options and Geezus. Bruh. Not cheap. http://shop.tunersmotorsports.com/?p...conversion-kit

[simmode1]

Bruh... http://www.stancenation.com/2014/06/...d-porsche-911/

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by simmode1

Been looking at more 986 aero options and Geezus. Bruh. Not cheap. http://shop.tunersmotorsports.com/?p...conversion-kit

That's a complete spyder conversion. That's a seriously huge fiberglass piece that replaces the rear deck and trunk, plus a new top assembly etc.

Another thing to remember is most of these companies are the original designers, so for a fair price comparison you should look at Amuse, C-west, Du Luck etc for pricing. Import owners are spoiled by all the cheap replica companies and out ~$300 bumpers.

Another place to look is also for early 996 bumpers and their varrients as they will work as well.

[Corbic]

[Corbic]

[HeyGirlHeyyy]

Speaking of B5 deals.

http://wilmington.craigslist.org/cto/4730911180.html

[simmode1]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Now the much better plan is his latest efforts...
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps7a381842.jpg

Thats right, 4.2 baby!

Boxster's two transmission are the Audi/VW 012 FWD 5spd Transaxle and the 01E 6spd Tranaxle. These units share the same bell housing pattern as all the Longitudinal VW/Audi engines. The 2.7TT, 1.8T, 2.8 V6, 4.2 V8 etc.

Another example:
http://www.planet-9.com/attachments/...r-img_2485.jpg


The 4.2 came in several forms. Most common will be the vanilla A6 and A8 engines. They all make around 300hp. Newer engines and specialty engines (RS6/RS8) make more power but cost considerably more. A 32v 295hp 4.2 is ~$500.

So you'll save some coin by skipping the adapter plate / clutch+flywheel issues. You'll get a cheap powerful engine and my god the noises it makes...

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So my plan at this time is sell my running 2.5l for $2,500 - $3,000. Buy a 4.2l for $500, clean it up for another $500, megasquirt, long tubes... oh yeah... poor mans R8

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Ok, so this idea got me all hot and bothered and ready to go buy a 986 for swapping. Until I actually looked into this shit. I couldn't find 1 example of anyone completing this swap and getting it running. If you have info on running 4.2L 986's (preferably with the 6spd trans), please post it.

Everything I've seen says, yeah, the dimensions are right so getting it to fit isn't the problem. But wiring it up is still mystifying most ppl. You can't run either the Porsche or Audi ECU, so say goodbye to a working gauge cluster and other niceties. And since the 4.2L is a pretty complex motor, most doubt that megasquirt will be able to operate it fully, causing a big loss in power.

Seems a lot like the early issues we encountered trying to run VQ engines in 240's. I want the 4.2L 6spd 986 idea to work, but I can't find any examples of anyone getting it done...

[HeyGirlHeyyy]

Originally Posted by simmode1

Ok, so this idea got me all hot and bothered and ready to go buy a 986 for swapping. Until I actually looked into this shit. I couldn't find 1 example of anyone completing this swap and getting it running. If you have info on running 4.2L 986's (preferably with the 6spd trans), please post it.

Everything I've seen says, yeah, the dimensions are right so getting it to fit isn't the problem. But wiring it up is still mystifying most ppl. You can't run either the Porsche or Audi ECU, so say goodbye to a working gauge cluster and other niceties. And since the 4.2L is a pretty complex motor, most doubt that megasquirt will be able to operate it fully, causing a big loss in power.

Seems a lot like the early issues we encountered trying to run VQ engines in 240's. I want the 4.2L 6spd 986 idea to work, but I can't find any examples of anyone getting it done...

Here's a running and driving, quite spiritedly, manual 4.2 swapped 986.


Same car. Damn good noise.

[simmode1]

Ahhh, cool. Thanks. I guess I kinda got the impression that this was a fairly common swap for the 986 & I was a bit surprised to find only one example of it being done. Everything about it is one off & custom. So that's something to consider if someone is expecting it to be as simple as an SR swap. I think I'd hold off until there's more documentation & more of them running around. I don't like being a guinea pig.

[DreamN]

mehsilvia (Chris Davidson) has me rethinking of purchasing a B6/B7...

[HeyGirlHeyyy]

Originally Posted by simmode1

Ahhh, cool. Thanks. I guess I kinda got the impression that this was a fairly common swap for the 986 & I was a bit surprised to find only one example of it being done. Everything about it is one off & custom. So that's something to consider if someone is expecting it to be as simple as an SR swap. I think I'd hold off until there's more documentation & more of them running around. I don't like being a guinea pig.

No problem. I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes more common as these cars begin to have 3rd or 4th owners who are more DIY oriented and don't want to shell out the cash it takes to salvage a car that has suffered from an IMS failure.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by HeyGirlHeyyy

No problem. I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes more common as these cars begin to have 3rd or 4th owners who are more DIY oriented and don't want to shell out the cash it takes to salvage a car that has suffered from an IMS failure.

What I've noticed about that however is the cost of long-blocks have come down quite a bit from wrecked cars.

$2-3k gets you a new engine. Most guys are content to just spend the $2k and get it running again.

The "SR Plug-N-Play" swap are the 3.2/3.4 engines. Those go for 6-8k I believe and add 50-100hp.

[TMW]

cool thread corbic

i drove a 997 turbo the other day. crazu fast, would love to own a 997 or 987

anyone here into vws? the r32s are pretty cool

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by TMW

cool thread corbic

i drove a 997 turbo the other day. crazu fast, would love to own a 997 or 987

anyone here into vws? the r32s are pretty cool

Thank you good sir.

Ironically enough I started with VWs years ago. A MKIII and then a MKIV. I set out wanting a BMW but a clean E36 back then was $12-15k so I settled for a $5k 57k mile MK3 Golf.

At the time I thought both cars where reliability nightmares. I know now that was just because I was a dumb kid. Shit happens, you just need to learn to fix it.

[Corbic]

Corrado

Still the best looking VW ever made. Stories of issues always scared me off, but like I said, dumb kid.



I'd trade my Boxster for one.

[Corbic]

[TMW]

cool cool, i dont know a whole lot about vws

everyone around me has them though

a shop a few minutes from my house has an awesome corrado, heres a pic

[Corbic]

Time to build some Panzers!

[240KA]

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/cto/4745642945.html

Porsche 911 + LS3

[turbronegro]

My project '79 450SEL