The 2020 Presidential Race

[zombiewolf513]

The Crisis by Thomas Paine; Dec 23, 1776

https://www.ushistory.org/paine/crisis/c-01.htm

Not for the low IQ.

[KA24DESOneThree]

I agree.

"Let them call me rebel and welcome, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul by swearing allegiance to one whose character is that of a sottish, stupid, stubborn, worthless, brutish man."

[zombiewolf513]

Judging by your TDS based response, you didnt actually read it. Back to your daddy's shop.

[KA24DESOneThree]

You're right. I pulled a single line out of a 517-word paragraph in the bottom third of the work because I didn't read it. That makes perfect sense.

Here's a fun read about Kushner: https://www.justsecurity.org/69094/t...-house-policy/

The mere fact that constant conflicts of interest were either ignored or covered-up sully the reputation of the United States globally.

I'll save s14 and zombie some time: cuck, TDS, socialist, daddy, rawdog, liberal, fake news.

[zombiewolf513]

Anyone, not going full potato on their big brothers account, read this? https://www.ushistory.org/paine/crisis/c-01.htm - The Crisis by Thomas Paine; Dec 23, 1776

[SupaDoopa]

Jo will hit 15% this time around. Most people just need that other option.

[KA24DESOneThree]

I don't think she will, but the wave of anti-government sentiment may drive people into her arms.

More people who are on the fence are holding their noses and voting for Biden than they were for Clinton. Trump was an unknown clown who didn't stink as badly as he does now.

[Future240]

Originally Posted by S14rebuild

You would..

:fp:

[zombiewolf513]

It's not gonna look like a joke come December lol

hell, with the stuff that just started to come out about Ilhan Omar, we're almost already there and it isnt even October.

[SupaDoopa]

He's a clown to those who see the man and not the work behind it. I'll never quite understand how people judge a President based on what happens. I know this idea seems pretty stupid but everything has to be passed through proper channels before it lands on his desk. He isn't just waving a wand and doing what he wants. He's IMPEACHED. He has ZERO power.

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by Future240

:fp:

Yes cause im sure the forum admin would post his illegal activities here...philips alittle smarter then that...

[deolio]

So where are all the Trump supporters at who said "Trump is a great businessman and America is a business" now? Posting losses for a decade leading up to the election and being more than 300 million in debt doesn't exactly scream "great businessman" to me...

[SupaDoopa]

For someone who makes a statement that he's $300M in the hole doesn't understand the basic principles of business. If you show positive net, you get taxed accordingly. Showing losses - which are also asset acquisition, paying off property, upkeep, etc. - is how you avoid paying the man. Smart businessmen dump crazy money at the end of the year to show operating costs which help level out their incomes. In the business I run, I do the same and those I cater to do the same. A legal loophole.

So... That's where he is. Duping your ass without you even knowing how he's doing it and you assuming he's a fucking clown.

#ThanksMastersInBusiness

[deolio]

I understand how the taxes work. What I don't understand is the debt unless he isn't actually abusing the loophole orrrr he's just letting it ride until the man comes to collect and then going to sick his team of lawyers on them like he loves to do. Either way, the optics aren't great for a president.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Pity he didn't bootstrap himself out of the losses.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by deolio

So where are all the Trump supporters at who said "Trump is a great businessman and America is a business" now? Posting losses for a decade leading up to the election and being more than 300 million in debt doesn't exactly scream "great businessman" to me...

I really don't understand this argument.

What exactly are you basing "success" on if not being world famous, owning billions in property and real estate, partying like a Rockstar, having an awesome family, adored by hundreds of millions and tearing the presidency from the jaws of one of the most cunning political figures in the US?

So what is it, we should let rich people buy the presidency or Trump isn't rich enough to be president?

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by KA24DESOneThree

Pity he didn't bootstrap himself out of the losses.

Yeah, dude seriously needs to give ya boy Hunter a call.

Didn't see a single payment from Russia nor any write offs for cocaine and sex slaves. Hunters got that shit locked down!

[S14rebuild]

Originally Posted by deolio

So where are all the Trump supporters at who said "Trump is a great businessman and America is a business" now? Posting losses for a decade leading up to the election and being more than 300 million in debt doesn't exactly scream "great businessman" to me...

Yea cause trump achieved all and everything he has as being poor and broke.... maybe he should vote for biden then?

[KA24DESOneThree]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Yeah, dude seriously needs to give ya boy Hunter a call.

Didn't see a single payment from Russia nor any write offs for cocaine and sex slaves. Hunters got that shit locked down!

Deflection.

[deolio]

Originally Posted by Corbic

I really don't understand this argument.

My argument is that people claiming that being a good businessman somehow qualifies him to run the country is bullshit because he apparently isn't such a good businessman if he's in debt.

But the more I think about it, the more I realize he's just collecting free money. He's only in debt until his lawyers argue that he isn't in debt and burry the debtee(s) in endless paperwork and bullshit until the end of time.

So, I renig on my assessment of him being a shitty businessman and instead say he's just an extremely unethical one and more of a con-man if anything. I know this won't make an impact in any Trump supporters mind anyway, so just ignore me as I pontificate

[SimpleS14]

This certainly puts a spotlight on the complex federal tax codes and how some really work the system to seek tax avoidance.

I'm more concerned with the amount of guaranteed debt ($421 million) that's coming due through the next four years. That kind of liability is not good for a sitting U.S. president, as it can sway political decisions that might not be good for the nation.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Originally Posted by SimpleS14

This certainly puts a spotlight on the complex federal tax codes and how some really work the system to seek tax avoidance.

I'm more concerned with the amount of guaranteed debt ($421 million) that's coming due through the next four years. That kind of liability is not good for a sitting U.S. president, as it can sway political decisions that might not be good for the nation.

Funny enough, that amount of debt is less than the Kushners were trying to get a loan from Qatar for.

It was enough to have Jared's clearance knocked from top secret to secret for that very reason- until Donny had it reinstated.

Read my link above and understand that this administration is rotten to the core.

[deolio]

So like... What a shit show!

[SimpleS14]

Originally Posted by deolio

So like... What a shit show!

This is the October surprise I was not anticipating. The following week is going to be very interesting. If the SC nominee announcement event is anything to learn from, it can take a few days from infection before a positive test is confirmed.

I certainly hope everyone that contracts it survives, but it should be a lesson learned to take this seriously and follow appropriate measures.

[kingkilburn]

So, how's covid19 treating everyone?

[zombiewolf513]

Originally Posted by SimpleS14

I certainly hope everyone that contracts it survives, but it should be a lesson learned to take this seriously and follow appropriate measures.

It took a high risk individual that travels across the country, meeting poeple every day and holding rallys of 40,000+ people, 9 months to contract it. Noone is buying your grandstanding.

[kingkilburn]

It took one instance of lax protocols in Cleveland and a complete lack of response to the possibility that Hope Hicks could be compromised.

Then you have the complete batshit situation of the scotus nomination event. We still don't know who walked into that with full blown covid19. My money is on Barr or Conway, but either way, someone walked in there fully sick with no mask and hugged and talked nose to nose with dozens of important people.

With how this president and staff treat rules and best practices it was always a race between vaccines and dumbassery.

[kingkilburn]

And now Chris Christie has covid19. He was coaching(HAH) Trump for the debate and said no one wore masks or social distanced.

[kingkilburn]

Trump's doctor just implied that Trump had a covid19 diagnosis BEFORE the debate. How many counts of criminal negligence is that?

[S14rebuild]

Dont really see the big deal, he has it. Not a death sentence. He will be just fine.